It's weird that a bunch of atheists think Christians would be somehow in crisis about learning that the Creator was even more powerful than we thought because he put life elsewhere in the universe besides here.
But there's nothing in the BIBLE about life anywhere else in the universe.
WE are the ones created in God's image; and Jesus was sent to save US. For many believers, the existence of intelligent life on other planets seems to threaten that paradigm.
"Hey, no fair! I thought WE were the children of God! So, who was created by God in his image? Was it we, or these freaky-looking stumpy grayish green dudes with three spindly fingers, giant eggheads and googly eyes? And is Jesus a man, one of us like the Bible says, or one of them?!!?!? Or, did God have to create ANOTHER savior in the image of each intelligent species in the universe that fucks itself up???!?!?"
Our brains aren't particularly well suited for processing the existence of extraterrestrial beings, so we tend to get..."creative". ;)
There are a lot of different kinds of heavenly creatures, not just traditional Angels. And this whole universe is a bubble God made for us to play in, so yeah.
The book of Enoic(probably miss spelled that) was taken out during the Council of narcia. It very clearly tell the story of a guy going to another planet, getting taught things no human should know at that time and returning.
The only thing that was left in was that he became the grandfather of Methuselam who became the grandfather of Noah
In Genesis it says Enoch walked with God and he was no more.
There are many times the Bible actually does reference what are considered the sky people, or watchers.
The irony tho is that many of the stories of the Elohem, or powerful ones is likely talking about an ET influence charged by God to help guide humanity.
Right, I think it was ca. 4th century, the Council of Niceae, in modern day Nice, France. Constantine, the first Catholic Roman Emperor, wanted a single canon to unify the church. So they voted on which books were holy enough to make the cut. I would love to see some of the stuff that didn't make it! ;)
I went to Catholic school in the 1980s and in the 3rd grade when we were taught this - how the Bible was cobbled together - even back then I was highly sus of it. But then again I hated school, and was highly cynical of the “ritual” of it all.
Thankfully the nuns at that time were being phased out of teaching but there were still a few left and they were violent as all get out. I swear those ugly lesbians had anger issues. That’s another thing... as a child I remember thinking there is something not right about this situation. All these ugly women living together.... c’mon. Let’s not even talk about the priests and brothers. Oh, and my school had one of the first “known” publicized molestation accusations in the LA Archdiocese and it was quickly swept under the rug with a faurly large (for the time) hush money payment to the family. I was friends with the boy, thankfully I opted out of being an alter boy, he, unfortunately did not and that’s when the molestations occurred (during practices after school).
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
Apocryphal books (disclaimer, also have errors like Bible) shed some light on this topic.
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
God made worlds without end. We have brothers and sisters on many of them. Christ is the Savior of us all. Apocryphal books’ mention of the Watchers, in my estimation, refer to these peoples. They taught children of Adam to use metal etc. I know, Apocryphal books are a mix of truth and manipulated writings. The Bible is as well unfortunately, though not to the same extent as the Apocrypha. In the process of thousands of years the Cabal has manipulated and removed some of the text. It’s one reason Christ’s use of parables was so genius - not too different from Q’s riddles.
Another intelligent life form on a planet somewhere doesnt negate the message for humans on earth from God. Maybe God has revealed himself to that planet and population in another way that we arent aware of.
I think if God did create life elsewhere, (and he most certainly could have if he wanted) that he would not allow us to mix. Are they fallen creatures like we are who needed a savior? That would cause mass chaos and confusion and our LORD is not a god of chaos but of order. If “They” did not fall and are therefore perfect and sinless would God allow them to make contact with us, who would surly corrupt them?
God is a Spirit. Jesus is a Spirit. He puts on a body the way we put on clothes. If other beings from elsewhere in this universe exist then God made them too. Do they look like us? Were we made in God's physical image or in His spiritual image? Let God show you the truth and test everything you see with His word.
But there's nothing in the BIBLE about life anywhere else in the universe.
WE are the ones created in God's image; and Jesus was sent to save US. For many believers, the existence of intelligent life on other planets seems to threaten that paradigm.
"Hey, no fair! I thought WE were the children of God! So, who was created by God in his image? Was it we, or these freaky-looking stumpy grayish green dudes with three spindly fingers, giant eggheads and googly eyes? And is Jesus a man, one of us like the Bible says, or one of them?!!?!? Or, did God have to create ANOTHER savior in the image of each intelligent species in the universe that fucks itself up???!?!?"
Our brains aren't particularly well suited for processing the existence of extraterrestrial beings, so we tend to get..."creative". ;)
And The Vatican came out a few years ago saying that even if there were ETs not to worry because God created them too. Paraphrasing.
There are a lot of different kinds of heavenly creatures, not just traditional Angels. And this whole universe is a bubble God made for us to play in, so yeah.
The book of Enoic(probably miss spelled that) was taken out during the Council of narcia. It very clearly tell the story of a guy going to another planet, getting taught things no human should know at that time and returning.
The only thing that was left in was that he became the grandfather of Methuselam who became the grandfather of Noah
Enoch is how you spell it.
Correct. God made worlds without end. We have spiritual brothers and sisters on other planets ... and we are the Flintsones compared to some of them.
Look at the book of Enoch.
In Genesis it says Enoch walked with God and he was no more.
There are many times the Bible actually does reference what are considered the sky people, or watchers.
The irony tho is that many of the stories of the Elohem, or powerful ones is likely talking about an ET influence charged by God to help guide humanity.
Right, I think it was ca. 4th century, the Council of Niceae, in modern day Nice, France. Constantine, the first Catholic Roman Emperor, wanted a single canon to unify the church. So they voted on which books were holy enough to make the cut. I would love to see some of the stuff that didn't make it! ;)
I went to Catholic school in the 1980s and in the 3rd grade when we were taught this - how the Bible was cobbled together - even back then I was highly sus of it. But then again I hated school, and was highly cynical of the “ritual” of it all.
Thankfully the nuns at that time were being phased out of teaching but there were still a few left and they were violent as all get out. I swear those ugly lesbians had anger issues. That’s another thing... as a child I remember thinking there is something not right about this situation. All these ugly women living together.... c’mon. Let’s not even talk about the priests and brothers. Oh, and my school had one of the first “known” publicized molestation accusations in the LA Archdiocese and it was quickly swept under the rug with a faurly large (for the time) hush money payment to the family. I was friends with the boy, thankfully I opted out of being an alter boy, he, unfortunately did not and that’s when the molestations occurred (during practices after school).
Fun times. Not!
You’re correct.
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
Apocryphal books (disclaimer, also have errors like Bible) shed some light on this topic.
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
God made worlds without end. We have brothers and sisters on many of them. Christ is the Savior of us all. Apocryphal books’ mention of the Watchers, in my estimation, refer to these peoples. They taught children of Adam to use metal etc. I know, Apocryphal books are a mix of truth and manipulated writings. The Bible is as well unfortunately, though not to the same extent as the Apocrypha. In the process of thousands of years the Cabal has manipulated and removed some of the text. It’s one reason Christ’s use of parables was so genius - not too different from Q’s riddles.
We are not alone in the Universe, that is such an unconscionably self centered perspective it's disgusting
The Bible of course being the end-all be-all authoritative text on everything.
The written, and rewritten, written, rewritten bible? Depending on which King won a war?
Does it say that it is?
Another intelligent life form on a planet somewhere doesnt negate the message for humans on earth from God. Maybe God has revealed himself to that planet and population in another way that we arent aware of.
Of course
I think if God did create life elsewhere, (and he most certainly could have if he wanted) that he would not allow us to mix. Are they fallen creatures like we are who needed a savior? That would cause mass chaos and confusion and our LORD is not a god of chaos but of order. If “They” did not fall and are therefore perfect and sinless would God allow them to make contact with us, who would surly corrupt them?
God is a Spirit. Jesus is a Spirit. He puts on a body the way we put on clothes. If other beings from elsewhere in this universe exist then God made them too. Do they look like us? Were we made in God's physical image or in His spiritual image? Let God show you the truth and test everything you see with His word.