Actually if something is not true, then it can only be false. That's the way reality works. It is binary. If it weren't that way, we would have to be on the watchout for pixies and unicorns every time we turn a corner. At some point, we have to grow up.
I understand the relationship between true and false. But you stating that something is not true doesnt make it so. Who appointed you the final judge of the truth? I see your screen name but that tells me shit about your level of expertise and knowledge on the subject.
You ask the reader to dismiss Boozy but your reasoning is nothing but a "Because I said so".
Boozy_McFuckface (a wonderful handle) has the onus of proving his allegation. As one who spent 40 years in the defense industry, working advanced systems, I have an understanding of what is deployed and what is in development. And it isn't alien technology. What do I know? Enough to edit the final draft of the winning proposal ($1.4B) for what became the YAL-1A Airborne Laser.
To put it tongue-in-cheek, unlike many on this board, I am not a wannabee---but I am a has-been! (My handle is literal, by the way.)
You would flunk a philosophy class. The onus is on the person who alleges a truth (a positive assertion). It is not generally possible to prove a negative assertion. So let him prove it---but fancies don't count. I will sit back and eat popcorn.
But it is interesting to me that you are less interested in actual grounds for belief and more interested in (1) fantasy, and (2) authority. You don't like me because I speak from education and experience, and you can't beat it. You are so ignorant, you don't know me or what authority I deserve. You are not even interested in asking questions. To you, my credentials actually don't matter, so why should I talk down to anyone? This is the weak thread in the internet world of discourse: a kind of assumed egalitarianism where everyone's word is as good as anyone else's. But of course, this is never true. We sort that out in face-to-face contacts.
But if you want novel technology, I read a technical letter recently summarizing Russian work on what NASA had called an "EmDrive," a thrust-producing microwave emitter. They managed to produce about 100 newtons/kilowatt, which was far beyond NASA's feeble micronewtons/kilowatt. So, if anyone has anything, they are probably writing it down in Cyrillic letters.
Actually if something is not true, then it can only be false. That's the way reality works.
That's not what he said, though. He said "STATING something is not true doesn't make it false." That is an accurate statement. Your statement or proclamation does not determine the reality of the thing. It's independent of any statement. That's the way reality works.
You tried to change that into him saying, absurdly, "Something not being true doesn't make it false."
The issue is whether one can proceed with statements of speculation as being truth. One cannot. It is too casually accepted on this board that someone can make an assertion for which he has no evidence whatever, and it is accepted as truth. (Moon Hoax, Chemtrails, Flat Earth, Space DEWs, etc.)
As for "stating" something is true or false, STATEMENTS are only words. But we have to make sure they attach to reality, or the whole effort of communication is disrupted.
Actually if something is not true, then it can only be false. That's the way reality works. It is binary. If it weren't that way, we would have to be on the watchout for pixies and unicorns every time we turn a corner. At some point, we have to grow up.
I understand the relationship between true and false. But you stating that something is not true doesnt make it so. Who appointed you the final judge of the truth? I see your screen name but that tells me shit about your level of expertise and knowledge on the subject.
You ask the reader to dismiss Boozy but your reasoning is nothing but a "Because I said so".
Boozy_McFuckface (a wonderful handle) has the onus of proving his allegation. As one who spent 40 years in the defense industry, working advanced systems, I have an understanding of what is deployed and what is in development. And it isn't alien technology. What do I know? Enough to edit the final draft of the winning proposal ($1.4B) for what became the YAL-1A Airborne Laser.
To put it tongue-in-cheek, unlike many on this board, I am not a wannabee---but I am a has-been! (My handle is literal, by the way.)
You have the same onus upon you to prove your assertions. Yet you dont because you cant. You assume an authority that you dont deserve.
You would flunk a philosophy class. The onus is on the person who alleges a truth (a positive assertion). It is not generally possible to prove a negative assertion. So let him prove it---but fancies don't count. I will sit back and eat popcorn.
But it is interesting to me that you are less interested in actual grounds for belief and more interested in (1) fantasy, and (2) authority. You don't like me because I speak from education and experience, and you can't beat it. You are so ignorant, you don't know me or what authority I deserve. You are not even interested in asking questions. To you, my credentials actually don't matter, so why should I talk down to anyone? This is the weak thread in the internet world of discourse: a kind of assumed egalitarianism where everyone's word is as good as anyone else's. But of course, this is never true. We sort that out in face-to-face contacts.
But if you want novel technology, I read a technical letter recently summarizing Russian work on what NASA had called an "EmDrive," a thrust-producing microwave emitter. They managed to produce about 100 newtons/kilowatt, which was far beyond NASA's feeble micronewtons/kilowatt. So, if anyone has anything, they are probably writing it down in Cyrillic letters.
That's not what he said, though. He said "STATING something is not true doesn't make it false." That is an accurate statement. Your statement or proclamation does not determine the reality of the thing. It's independent of any statement. That's the way reality works.
You tried to change that into him saying, absurdly, "Something not being true doesn't make it false."
Weak.
The issue is whether one can proceed with statements of speculation as being truth. One cannot. It is too casually accepted on this board that someone can make an assertion for which he has no evidence whatever, and it is accepted as truth. (Moon Hoax, Chemtrails, Flat Earth, Space DEWs, etc.)
As for "stating" something is true or false, STATEMENTS are only words. But we have to make sure they attach to reality, or the whole effort of communication is disrupted.