I had 2 appointments cancelled, just called to rebook and was told I could not be seen without a mask.
Asked the usual question about why: if the other people are wearing masks and have been vaxxed - are they not protected? Got an idiot health safety protocol spiel. This has to end.
Do you have a medical exemption? Discrimination.
Just found this in Optometry Today:
Face masks ‘not mandatory’ for patients in optical practices, according to new government regulations
Despite government guidance, the AOP has emphasised that optometrists should still feel confident insisting patients wear masks unless they’re legally exempt
https://www.aop.org.uk/ot/professional-support/aop/2020/07/24/face-masks-not-mandatory-for-patients-in-optical-practices-according-to-new-government-regulations
Try and get out of that covid nazis!
I am a mask exempt optometrist, I would be happy to see you!!
I see what you did there.
There was that woman last year went into Aldi with no mask as she was exempt. The Aldi Karen kicked her out. Went to court as Equality Act 2010 discrimination and she got I think 7000 quid compensation.
Tell me more! Haha - thanks!
They're not publicising the court cases naturally, but they are happening and people are winning and being compensated. 007 is right that Equality Act 2010 is the one to cite, as well as Coronavirus Act itself (which stipulates that mask-wearing cannot be made law!!).
Thanks! Good to know :)
We are all fighting to fix it. Hang in there
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I wish I could, would love the sunshine, got freezing fog here in the UK today :)
Sorry, fren. If you have time, would you mind educating us yanks a bit about your NHS? I know the basics, that you all have NHS numbers and can go to a doctor or A & E (accident and emergency?) and be treated -- and then not pay anything because the system is supported by taxpayers. I think all of that is right and if not, please correct me.
Now my questions are -- are there still 'private' healthcare servers available? (To which if you go, you will naturally be double paying since you are taxed for NHS) Still wondering if there are any options like that and how plentiful they are.
Can ANYONE go to an NHS facility and not be charged? For instance, a foreigner there on vacation who gets appendicitis and needs surgery?
And what about all the people who are living there illegally? Do they get to go and not pay, as well? Are they issued NHS numbers/cards even though they are in the country illegally?
Is it true that people often have to wait months for service and things like surgery?
Overall, do you consider it a well run service? I hope you are successful if you follow through with a lawsuit (what a hassle though - but if you have a case, I do hope you'll move forward with it. I think that's where the bad guys win a lot, people just not wanting to be 'arsed' to take the time / hassle.)
And do you know roughly how much 7000 quid is in US dollars? Lol. :D
Thanks! I hope you'll keep us posted if you do file a suit.
I once asked an Englishman how many guid were in a pound, he was really confused by my question then finally answered " A quid is a pound! "
Oh, okay. I wondered if it might be a pound. Similar to how an American might say a dollar is a buck. :D Haha. If that's the case, I'm going to say it was somewhere around 10k she got. Thanks.
$1.37 :)
National Health Service treatments are free. I am entitled to a free eye test, as well as medical treatment. It is possible to go private, if you want to and have the means.
Foreigners are meant to pay but most don't: for years it was well known that African women (specially from Nigeria and Ghana) would arrive in time to give birth in the UK an leave without paying.
£7k is roughly $9.5 at today's rates.
Thanks. And how unfair you appear to have both a pound sign and a dollar sign! We only have the dollar! If a quid is equal to a pound (same as Americans calling a dollar a buck) then I would have guessed 10k, so I was pretty close. :D
For decades, we have had the same situation with Mexican women. They have them here so they are automatically "American." Though that could be debated. They are referred to as anchor babies. Thanks for the answer. I hope you get your appointment worked out.
"Primary Care" is when you have some health problem and want to see a doctor. This means registering with a local health centre which they call a "surgery" and they are bound by law to accept literally anyone who shows up. Their only get-out is if you live geographically closer to another different surgery. They try to make you show ID to register but if you say no they can't do anything.
"Secondary care" (hospital treatment) is when it gets weird, yes they are supposed to do various checks on citizenship and residence permits. Because EU people used to be allowed treatment it has got confusing since Brexit whether for example someone from Germany still qualifies for free treatment via the NHS. Theoretically if you are a foreign tourist with appendicitis yes they will try to bill your travel insurance. I have no idea how well that works for them. They would definitely NEVER say hard luck buddy you don't look as if you qualify so please leave the building and die in the street.
I have avoided the NHS as much as possible for all my life but when I had a hospital visit recently they clearly did try extremely hard to track me down on their computer, on which I did not exist because I never use them.
Many people have private contracts for medical either because they pay for them or because provided as part of their reward package by their employer. I have such a thing but when I had an acute emergency I was straight into the NHS machine. Private medical is for less-urgent elective surgery. Yes there can be a long wait for NHS treatment and you can short-circuit that by paying - often paying to see the same guy who would eventually have treated you via the NHS.
NHS pretty rocky these days, but in comparison to back in the day when poor people just suffered and died it is a godsend. You will find precisely zero people in the UK who regard it as evil socialism etc.
Thanks for taking the time to explain that. I appreciate it. Just to clarify, if you don't mind. In your second to last paragraph, did you mean that a doctor who sees patients privately, might also work for the NHS?
What about specialty doctors, like eye or allergy or cardiology? Does the NHS have plenty of them to go around as well? And is dentistry part of the NHS? I've heard chiropodists referred to in some of my programmes, lol. :D Is that akin to a podiatrist? (Foot doctor but necessarily an MD)
Yes, medical professionals work for themselves mostly as independent contractors - I think. Not one myself so don't know. They contract to the NHS but also sell their individual services. Anecdotal stories are full of people who were on a 6-month waiting list to see Doctor Smith, but then decided to pay to see a doctor and the following week got seen non-NHS by... Doctor Smith.
About 30 years ago the UK government managed to force dentistry into a sort of limbo where patients could still get NHS treatment but had to pay part of the cost. Still like that.
Physio therapists and chiropodists increasingly live in a similar limbo where they are sort-of available via NHS but many people pay for the service outside of NHS. It's because physio and chiropody are relatively cheap.
Hmm. I see. Thanks!
My husband just went to an ophthalmologist in Puerto Vallarta for $35 (750 pesos). We’re doing our healthcare there now.