And in the past, if a teen got married, it was either to another teen, or perhaps someone in their low 20s, any older than low 20s, and it would be verging on pedophilia.
In response to your sarcasm, be careful to avoid the fallacy of generalization...
Something not being "the norm" doesn't make it criminal or immoral. If a 16 year old could get married in the 70s (yes, it happened, not always, not normally, but ot did happen and wasn't called pedophilia) and it was legal and not considered immoral, then why now should it be considered otherwise?
Oh they weren't? 16 year olds were never courting or marrying 56 year olds? Has all of your knowledge of history consisted only of stories since the year 2000?
"Normal" is a relative term. If a Christian lived amongst Muslims in 1740s Arabia, and did not have multiple wives (many of them quite younger than 18), that man would not be considered "normal" by that community's standards. In Portland, being "weird" is "normal" to people from Portland but they are weird to most of the rest of the USA who think they are weird.
For the sake of this discussion of serious matters, let's try to stick with using objective, absolute terms... for instance, like criminal, illegal, moral, immoral, sin etc. "Normal" just doesn't quite cut it.
Holy shit, why are you so hell bent on justifying this? You do realize that Epstein was caught procuring girls in this age group to older men, right? We anons know there’s much younger children involved, but this age group is what he and Ghislaine Maxwell were arrested for. And there has been public outrage over it. Your incessant need to defend older men wanting to be with girls this age and trying to say it’s normal is right in line with the men who slept with Epstein’s girls. They may look old enough to you, but they’re still developing mentally and emotionally and a man 40 years older than her that wants to be with her is predatory. He wants to use his age and experience to manipulate and control her. Our society has gotten really morally bankrupt over time, but the one thing that has evolved is the fact we can acknowledge this age shouldn’t be married off to much older men and there’s now laws in place prohibiting it. I’m not going to disagree with you that pedophilia by definition is attraction to children, but older people wanting to be with teens is also moral degeneracy for the reasons I touched on. If a 24 year old is with a 17 year old I’m not too perturbed because they’re so close in mental and emotional maturity it’s really not a big deal. However someone close to 60 looking at a 16-17 year old and actually acting on is fucking disgusting. Again, my husband is wouldnt think twice to kill a 56 year old man who attempted to touch his daughter.
Yeah I know when I was sixteen I was looking to date someone old enough to be my grandpa, that's on every teenage girls to do list.
Fyi in the 70s and 80s getting married at fifteen and sixteen wasn't the norm.
And in the past, if a teen got married, it was either to another teen, or perhaps someone in their low 20s, any older than low 20s, and it would be verging on pedophilia.
In response to your sarcasm, be careful to avoid the fallacy of generalization...
Something not being "the norm" doesn't make it criminal or immoral. If a 16 year old could get married in the 70s (yes, it happened, not always, not normally, but ot did happen and wasn't called pedophilia) and it was legal and not considered immoral, then why now should it be considered otherwise?
You're correct but those sixteen year olds weren't dating or marrying men 40 years older than them either.
Even you have to admit that's not normal, but keep defending the creepo if you want.
Oh they weren't? 16 year olds were never courting or marrying 56 year olds? Has all of your knowledge of history consisted only of stories since the year 2000?
"Normal" is a relative term. If a Christian lived amongst Muslims in 1740s Arabia, and did not have multiple wives (many of them quite younger than 18), that man would not be considered "normal" by that community's standards. In Portland, being "weird" is "normal" to people from Portland but they are weird to most of the rest of the USA who think they are weird.
For the sake of this discussion of serious matters, let's try to stick with using objective, absolute terms... for instance, like criminal, illegal, moral, immoral, sin etc. "Normal" just doesn't quite cut it.
Holy shit, why are you so hell bent on justifying this? You do realize that Epstein was caught procuring girls in this age group to older men, right? We anons know there’s much younger children involved, but this age group is what he and Ghislaine Maxwell were arrested for. And there has been public outrage over it. Your incessant need to defend older men wanting to be with girls this age and trying to say it’s normal is right in line with the men who slept with Epstein’s girls. They may look old enough to you, but they’re still developing mentally and emotionally and a man 40 years older than her that wants to be with her is predatory. He wants to use his age and experience to manipulate and control her. Our society has gotten really morally bankrupt over time, but the one thing that has evolved is the fact we can acknowledge this age shouldn’t be married off to much older men and there’s now laws in place prohibiting it. I’m not going to disagree with you that pedophilia by definition is attraction to children, but older people wanting to be with teens is also moral degeneracy for the reasons I touched on. If a 24 year old is with a 17 year old I’m not too perturbed because they’re so close in mental and emotional maturity it’s really not a big deal. However someone close to 60 looking at a 16-17 year old and actually acting on is fucking disgusting. Again, my husband is wouldnt think twice to kill a 56 year old man who attempted to touch his daughter.