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– sleepydude 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Well, I don't know how Pluto got so close to the sun all of a sudden, so I'm assuming this isn't the most accurate representation.

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/index.html

I'd say aside from Venus and Mercury being in line with one another, nothing too special is going on.

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– EnlightenMe 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Pluto is completing a cycle. Last time Pluto was in this position it was around 1776.

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– SmolPedeBestPede 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Pluto wasn’t even “discovered” until 1930. There’s no way to know where it was in 1776.

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– PumpkinsAndPopsums 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yes there is, actually. I won't get into the math or the overly verbose stuff, but to put it in a simple way: Since every planet revolves around our Sun in a certain orbital path, which thanks to technology has been measured for most objects in our solar system, astronomers can find patterns and determine where things were in the past.

For example, we all know the Earth takes 365 days to go around the Sun--that is our year. We could easily turn back the clocks thousands of years before astronomy ever existed to determine where the Earth was compared to the Sun, say in like 200BC. There are many computer programs for this nowadays.

This is why we now know where planets like Saturn and Pluto have historically been, since we can do the math around their orbital patterns. Since it takes Pluto around 250 years to travel one complete circle around the Sun, and since Zodiac signs exist, we can look at the sign & degree of where Pluto is right this very minute, and do the math to figure out the last time it was in that spot. It was indeed in the early days of our great country, from the revolutionary war through 1776, that Pluto was hanging out in late Capricorn/early Aquarius like it is right now~

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– DrFatsides 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

For space dudes I think orbital mechanics is like the "easy" stuff for that industry. Think of a pencil and a compass drawing a circle, with key measurements you can extrapolate backwards to follow the pattern to the past.

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– EnlightenMe 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'll try and locate where I read that. It was a couple years ago. I should have added... if memory serves me right. It was a planetary article somewhere.

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– PumpkinsAndPopsums 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

You are correct :) Lots of astrological and astronomical resources out there for sure. Each planet has its cycle, and Pluto isbno exception. It is currently in the last degrees of Capricorn, and will be entering Aquarius within the next couple years. Pluto takes around 250ish years to go all the way around the Sun, give or take. So right now I'd wager that Pluto is in the same spot that it was during the early days of America--and the revolutionary war. Once it enters Aquarius, it will pass over the same part of the sky that it did when the declaration of independance was signed!

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– 007wannabee 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

JPL produced lots of algorithms for planetary orbits. Many places have implemented them and provide ephemeris data:

https://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/1700/ae_1776.pdf

Today January 25 2022 the geocentric position of Pluto is at 26°43' Capricorn, and sure enough it was last at the same position on January 29 1776. As you say, it had not been discovered then of course.

On July 4 1776 Pluto was at 27°34' Capricorn so you could say the USA is finishing its first Pluto cycle this year when Pluto crosses that point again on February 21

Pluto symbolises lots of things related to power, including nuclear, and is basically not to be fkuced with - so anyone recognising astrology as meaningfully valid should certainly imagine this is a pretty serious time. Pluto moves real slow and deep so no exact Feb 21 datefagging.

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– JCStomper 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I assume we need to look at this in 3D, with Pluto being far out in the distance

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– PumpkinsAndPopsums 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That is correct!

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

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