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Man Tells His Story: Car Crash, EMT Injected Him, and He Woke Up with a Vent Down His Throat ... Hospital/Clinic Was Trying to Kill Him
posted 4 years ago by MAG768720 4 years ago by MAG768720 +139 / -0

Make it go viral.

https://t.me/GhostEzra/8560

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– chicagotrauma 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

There's probably more to it. He doesn't recall the events of the accident so there is obvious head injury. Who knows how he was behaving immediately after that head injury? If he had altered mentation, intoxicated, or combative he probably would have gotten intubated. When someone is in a rollover crash you have to control the situation quickly, work them up, and ensure they don't have any immediate life threatening injuries. Some hospitals are bad. But not everything is about money or trying to kill patients

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– Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

He said the hospital was in Flagstaff. Flagstaff is not that big of place - there are two hospitals there so that would narrow the search down. Medivac would transport to a hospital certified as a trauma center if at all possible - Flagstaff Medical Center (one of the two hospitals in Flagstaff) is the only level 1 trauma center north of Phoenix so my bet would be that was where he went (assuming his story has at least the location correct).

What he is describing, based on 20+ years working in EMS, is protocols called Rapid Sequence Intubation (RSI). RSI is used frequently in Medivax and the head trauma scenario you described is one of the the situations where that almost always happens. The reason for it sometimes being done possibly early on in treatment is because intubating a patient while in flight can be very hard or even impossible to do so they do it before loading the patient into the helicopter. There are no EMS x-ray machines so the medics have no way of knowing the severity of internal injuries based only on external observations so they have to plan for worse case scenario when they have prolonged transport times because things can go from looking stable to "oh shit" in a split second. Sometimes those calls (Medivac vs. ground transport, RSI vs not, etc.) are made simply on the basis of the mechanism of injury - meaning, "Damn, that is one bad wreck - no way this guy did not get injured during that".

RSI explained in link:

https://www.hahv.org/Uploads/Public/Documents/HealthAlliance%20PDFs/Provider%20Portal/RSI%20Information%20Margaretville%20only%202.28.17.pdf

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– chicagotrauma 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's too hard to explain ATLS protocol to non med people. Especially on a damn cell phone

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– Litecola2 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They told his family he had a broken nose and acute pancreatitis, based on WHAT exactly? And didn't mention the "covid" diagnosis? Not any protocol I've ever heard of- he's talking about hospital, not emt. They had time to scan or x-ray by then.

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– Th4rd_R3ich 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It literally is all about money with these hospitals though. Don't be so naive.

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– Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

The hospital is not the ones that sedated and intubated him, EMS did - that's by his own statement. I tried to explain why that would be done by EMS and it has absolutely nothing to do with money so please explain how I am being naive for describing when/why/and how EMS does that. You're putting a lot of faith in believing this guys recollection of events after an accident that he could not even remember happened - I'm stating my own personal observations from working in EMS for over 20 years.

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– Th4rd_R3ich 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I was referring to hospital protocols. They are absolutely all about the financial incentives in deciding the protocol of treatment people get.

Obviously not disputing that EMS were the ones who intubated him

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– Litecola2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They told his family he had a broken nose and acute pancreatitis, based on WHAT exactly? And didn't mention the "covid" diagnosis?

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