There has been a lingering theory called the "Abiotic Theory" of petroleum creation for several decades now. It posits that petroleum does NOT come from decomposed organic material, but is instead an ongoing process created in the Earth's mantle, and that it is an inexhaustible resource.
http://viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html
**If you go to page 70, the chapter "The Night The World Died", you only need to read a few pages to get the gist of what he is positing. I find it much more plausible than the "dinosaur bones and plant matter" nonsense that we were told.
Makes sense when you consider that Roman London was only a max 30ft below today’s levels.
Times those figures by the numbers to get you to dinosaur period and it’s impossible to believe that layers of the earth were built on top of tar from the crushing of vegetation and dinosaurs. Maybe it’s a lubricating layer within the earth that helps with friction, like we have on our joints?
You are exactly right. I have tried to have this discussion with people before and have been shut down because they want to believe we are running out of so called fossil fuel when it fact, it is a by-product of the earth's molten center and we will never run out of it. Big Oil has duped us all with this one so that they can continue to use it to play with prices.
eh were pretty good about reducing emissions of polution. We should be finding ways to build to be far more energy efficient, like optomizing windows in houses / building shapes to utilize sun to heat in the winter and shade to cool in the summer. As well as improve mass transit / light rail things of tha nature. bigger problem we have is plastics littered all over the world that do not biodegrade and kill off life. go back to paper bags and focusing on replaceable parts, not cheep disposables of plastic.
They have found or made? microbes to eat plastic. Hemp is going to be big for everything..soil improver plants clothing,i nsulation bricks it has so many uses. Bannd by Dupont one of the 13 families
last i saw the "microbes" or ate a certain type of plastic that isnt the dominant types of plastic and the process is extremely slow. While I think thats great progress, its not a solution, not without dramatic reducing our plastic use, and not accounting for the plastic that already exists. Completely with you on hemp and looking to work with nature for solutions.
I’m not sold on all the pollution rhetoric in regards to our ozone. Yes, spilling oils etc in our waterways in a big no-go, but what happens when you introduce co2 into a greenhouse? The plants grow bigger, faster, and stronger. Look at satellite images in comparison to global pollution over the decades. The earth is getting greener.
You ever notice how warm and humid inside a greenhouse is as well? It can get uncomfortable for a person in the summer. Besides, no one is arguing that life won't continue amidst climate change, but it would make things very hard for human life as it is to continue. Some life and the earth will most likely continue on for who knows how long, but that doesn't mean that earth will be a hospitable place for humans. Venus is filled with carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases, and the pressure and temperature on the surface of the planet are nearly unimaginable. We've hardly had pictures of the surface of Venus because the atmosphere just eats the robot probes that countries send within an hour even. I think Russia made the longest lasting probe on Venus, and that only lasted for a couple of hours under the intense heat and pressure.
Absolutely, a greenhouse in summer can be uncomfortable. But give the greenhouse the ceiling of our ozone layer, would it still be that uncomfortable? We just had the coldest temps in Antarctica since we’ve been recording them (mid 70s iirc). That doesn’t lend much credence towards muh global warming cause cow farts. How do our co2 levels compare to Venus? Interesting bit about the atmosphere eating any probes we’ve thrown at it. Do you think our atmosphere would become as caustic as another planet? There’s so many variables there, I wouldn’t know where to start.
If no ones arguing life won’t continue, what’s the main argument? Sea level? There’s a different doomsday scenario sold to the public every decade.
There is speculation that they Earth has indeed grown over time from the accumulation of interstellar material. The hypothesis explains nicely how such large animals were possible at one time, but not now -- lower mass meant less gravity.
More than speculation. If earth or any planet or object absorbs more energy than it emits, it must gain mass. Add to that periodic micro-nova events..."fire and brim stone" and intermittent solar events (noah) where the earth can pass through an emulsion of muddy water...Neal Adams was right!
99.9% of all living matter dies and produces NO lasting "oils" for a number of reasons. Oils degrade in air and sunlight. If they didn't the earth would be covered in oil as oil is lighter than water. It percolates up, not down. Consider the math. We use worldwide 34,000,000,000 barrels a year. A standard barrel is 55 gal, or avg. 285 lbs. Your math quiz for the day... "How many dinosaurs does it take..."
Too many think oil came from dead dinos. The vast majority is from beyond ancient bio matter from dead plants and tiny marine life. Both were incredibly plentiful far before any land animals ever roamed the surface of the Earth and those layers are FAR deeper than animal fossils.
Oil is found that deep but also found shallower. Some notable because oil came up and stood in pools above ground or on surface of lakes. Coalinga as shallow as ~500 feet -
That doesn't refute the point that oil is found significantly deeper than the deepest fossils. OP didn't say oil is ONLY found that deep, just that it is found that deep, routinely. Of course it can be pushed up higher, but the fact it exists so deep debunks the fossil fuel theory.
There has been a lingering theory called the "Abiotic Theory" of petroleum creation for several decades now. It posits that petroleum does NOT come from decomposed organic material, but is instead an ongoing process created in the Earth's mantle, and that it is an inexhaustible resource. http://viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html
Yes... that is part of the Abootic Theory.
Perhaps a combo of both or actual time of organic life on Earth far longer than we know.
/12000 year cycle
Thank you for this
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James McCanney has an interesting theory for the origins of oil. Here is a PDF of one of his books:
https://www.jmccanneyscience.com/Atlantis%20to%20Tesla%20The%20Kolbrin%20Connection%20eBookSMALL040713.pdf
**If you go to page 70, the chapter "The Night The World Died", you only need to read a few pages to get the gist of what he is positing. I find it much more plausible than the "dinosaur bones and plant matter" nonsense that we were told.
It was not said that oil is ONLY found that deep, just that it has been found much deeper than "fossil" fuel theory could have explained.
If there is only one instance of it being that much deeper than the deepest fossil, then the whole fossil fuel theory is debunked.
Am I to infer that the oils at the ‘fossil fuel’ depths would be contributed to seepage from below? Seems plausible.
Makes sense when you consider that Roman London was only a max 30ft below today’s levels.
Times those figures by the numbers to get you to dinosaur period and it’s impossible to believe that layers of the earth were built on top of tar from the crushing of vegetation and dinosaurs. Maybe it’s a lubricating layer within the earth that helps with friction, like we have on our joints?
You are exactly right. I have tried to have this discussion with people before and have been shut down because they want to believe we are running out of so called fossil fuel when it fact, it is a by-product of the earth's molten center and we will never run out of it. Big Oil has duped us all with this one so that they can continue to use it to play with prices.
That could mean that there's tons more oil than they say.
BuT it would b good to,replace oil due to pollution
eh were pretty good about reducing emissions of polution. We should be finding ways to build to be far more energy efficient, like optomizing windows in houses / building shapes to utilize sun to heat in the winter and shade to cool in the summer. As well as improve mass transit / light rail things of tha nature. bigger problem we have is plastics littered all over the world that do not biodegrade and kill off life. go back to paper bags and focusing on replaceable parts, not cheep disposables of plastic.
They have found or made? microbes to eat plastic. Hemp is going to be big for everything..soil improver plants clothing,i nsulation bricks it has so many uses. Bannd by Dupont one of the 13 families
last i saw the "microbes" or ate a certain type of plastic that isnt the dominant types of plastic and the process is extremely slow. While I think thats great progress, its not a solution, not without dramatic reducing our plastic use, and not accounting for the plastic that already exists. Completely with you on hemp and looking to work with nature for solutions.
I’m not sold on all the pollution rhetoric in regards to our ozone. Yes, spilling oils etc in our waterways in a big no-go, but what happens when you introduce co2 into a greenhouse? The plants grow bigger, faster, and stronger. Look at satellite images in comparison to global pollution over the decades. The earth is getting greener.
Yes it is...they lie to us all the time
You ever notice how warm and humid inside a greenhouse is as well? It can get uncomfortable for a person in the summer. Besides, no one is arguing that life won't continue amidst climate change, but it would make things very hard for human life as it is to continue. Some life and the earth will most likely continue on for who knows how long, but that doesn't mean that earth will be a hospitable place for humans. Venus is filled with carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases, and the pressure and temperature on the surface of the planet are nearly unimaginable. We've hardly had pictures of the surface of Venus because the atmosphere just eats the robot probes that countries send within an hour even. I think Russia made the longest lasting probe on Venus, and that only lasted for a couple of hours under the intense heat and pressure.
Absolutely, a greenhouse in summer can be uncomfortable. But give the greenhouse the ceiling of our ozone layer, would it still be that uncomfortable? We just had the coldest temps in Antarctica since we’ve been recording them (mid 70s iirc). That doesn’t lend much credence towards muh global warming cause cow farts. How do our co2 levels compare to Venus? Interesting bit about the atmosphere eating any probes we’ve thrown at it. Do you think our atmosphere would become as caustic as another planet? There’s so many variables there, I wouldn’t know where to start.
If no ones arguing life won’t continue, what’s the main argument? Sea level? There’s a different doomsday scenario sold to the public every decade.
where did all that dirt come from??? Is earth growing?
There is speculation that they Earth has indeed grown over time from the accumulation of interstellar material. The hypothesis explains nicely how such large animals were possible at one time, but not now -- lower mass meant less gravity.
More than speculation. If earth or any planet or object absorbs more energy than it emits, it must gain mass. Add to that periodic micro-nova events..."fire and brim stone" and intermittent solar events (noah) where the earth can pass through an emulsion of muddy water...Neal Adams was right!
99.9% of all living matter dies and produces NO lasting "oils" for a number of reasons. Oils degrade in air and sunlight. If they didn't the earth would be covered in oil as oil is lighter than water. It percolates up, not down. Consider the math. We use worldwide 34,000,000,000 barrels a year. A standard barrel is 55 gal, or avg. 285 lbs. Your math quiz for the day... "How many dinosaurs does it take..."
About tree fiddy.
moar!
This is a good approach for normies.
Too many think oil came from dead dinos. The vast majority is from beyond ancient bio matter from dead plants and tiny marine life. Both were incredibly plentiful far before any land animals ever roamed the surface of the Earth and those layers are FAR deeper than animal fossils.
That still gives credence to the argument that oil is finite.
It's probably just one of multiple ways oil is produced by the Earth.
Oil is found that deep but also found shallower. Some notable because oil came up and stood in pools above ground or on surface of lakes. Coalinga as shallow as ~500 feet -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalinga_Oil_Field#Geology_and_operations
Same conditions found in PA, OK, TX, etc.
That doesn't refute the point that oil is found significantly deeper than the deepest fossils. OP didn't say oil is ONLY found that deep, just that it is found that deep, routinely. Of course it can be pushed up higher, but the fact it exists so deep debunks the fossil fuel theory.
Did you miss this part?
Can it also be pushed lower?
Didn't miss it, wanted to emphasize the main point.
Given pressure differentials, unlikely that oil, less dense than everything around it including water, would be pushed lower.