I'll be honest I know Russia is a master of propaganda rivaling that of Globohomo. However there is one undisputable fact about both their accounts that automatically make Russia more trustworthy of telling the truth, raw footage. The MSM has no raw footage that isn't fake, every one comes back recycled from previous conflicts or fictional dramatization. Meanwhile I've seen raw footage of missile strikes, drone strikes, humanitarian efforts, building sweeps, witness interviewing, official progress reports, on and on from the Russian side. The amount of RAW FOOTAGE they are willing to show is really a measure of how honest they're being.
Can you read at all? I defined the Nazis not as leading (mostly Jews) but as « useful tools ».
Angry people are an excellent catalyst in politics.
The same way that France’s « socialist » François Mitterand helped promote Le Pen’s far-right in the 70s-80s to get the « moderate » right to lose plenty of votes.
"Self-identify" is a pretty weak argument. If a man self-identifies as a woman, that doesn't make it so. If a child self-identifies as Superman, that doesn't make it so. If Biden self-identifies as the honestly-elected POTUS, that doesn't make it so. A major reason why things are so fucked-up right now is precisely because we're accepting all sorts of reality-denying "self-identify" bullshit!
Then these Azov guys don't seem to actually hold "nazi" beliefs, since they've been supported by a jewish billionaire, and are even now being defended by the ADL for not attacking jewish people or institutions.
If these guys are nazis, then I'm Genghis Khan.
Why do you think Naziism is all about Jews? Nazis hate all sorts of different people.
These nazis seem to be ethnic supremacists, they hate Russians the most, although i think they would turn on their billionaire funders if the funds dried up.
Well, hating jews seems to be so much more important to the nazis than anything else, so much that during a desperate two-front world war they still expended huge resources for death camps devoted entirely to killing 6 bajillion zillion gorillion jews (supposedly). For some reason these Azov guys just don't seem to putting in anywhere near the insane level of jew-hating to be expected from nazis. Feels more like they're just putting in the bare minimum to maintain narrative symbolism rather than acting on any genuine beliefs... almost as if the entire cultural framework of "nazis" we operate under just might be bullshit to begin with...
You are so close. Just expand your thinking. To truely control the population, a ruling class needs to control both extremes of society. Far left and far right. Left hand, right hand. Sheep dont listen to passive sheep dogs. Come on fren, 2+2=4.
You are asking me things I don't know about for sure.
AFAIK, the Russians see the Ukrainians as wayward brothers. A subset of the Ukranians hate Russians and would kill them. These people have been encouraged by the west for decades. Through people like Victoris Nuland.
But I am neither Russian not Ukrainian, so my understanding could be wrong.
a few thousand neo-Nazis not only have power to block the crucial agreement towards peace in Donbas but that the president has no power and will to disband and arrest them
These Nazis were organized and empowered by the C_A to carry out the C_A 2014 coup, and are trained and funded by the West:
The Jews were ‘violent foreigners?’ Think you’ll have a hard time making either case.
Hostile ethnic-religious battles are the fact of human history. The 1930 Germans desire for homogeneous identity does not make them evil or unique. Their methods and exceptional efficiency made them evil and unique.
look at the 1965 immigration act and what followed. this was an intentional policy to undermine cultural cohesion and principles of meritocracy.
the relative cohesion in the USA was (past tense) the result of common moral values that promoted character achievements over material "success". that is still a viable foundation as long as morality and character drive social status. the reality is that is predominantly a Protestant Christian world view.
Not sure which aspect you mean by “fake.” The 6 million number? I certainly agree that we don’t know the real number, and that it is wholly politicized.
But the estimates are derived from the meticulous record-keeping by Nazi bureaucrats. You have seen at least part of the Eichmann trial? Nuremberg?
There’s hundreds of hours of trial film. You can see and hear for yourself how the Defendants addressed the arguments, evidence, and testimonies.
1.when Eichmann joined the Nazi Party 1932; the Nazis already had a “program of combatting the Jews” they had to downplay in order be win the 1932 election
2.Eichmann “forced emigration”; admits Jews ‘voluntary emigrated’ only due to fear and threat
3.at WANSEE, the meeting Eichmann organized and recorded minutes, is the protocol for “the Final Solution,” as Eichmann recounts, where "various possibilities for killing were discussed"
4.Eichmann reads Himmler’s speech at Posen specifying “exterminating the Jews”; Jews were considered “a germ that had to be destroyed, just like any other disease.”
Rudolf Hoess testimony from Nuremberg is pretty damning. Further, [Rudolf Hoess related, before his execution, how he often felt weak-kneed at having to push hundreds of screaming, pleading children into the gas chambers:" I did, however, always feel ashamed of this weakness of mine after I talked to Adolf Eichmann. He explained to me that it was especially the children who have to be killed first, because where was the logic in killing a generation of older people and leaving alive a generation of young people who can be possible avengers of their parents and can constitute a new biological cell for the reemerging of this people."]
Funding is public through NATO, dark through C_A, and deceptive though US Congressional appropriations.
Is it surprising to see money-power pay mercenaries to do their dirty work? The political “Jews” are not religious; the whole NWO is anti-God. These ‘elites’ feel they are untouchable, as if the forces of hell they release won’t blow back on them.
Yes, Kolomoisky has put in a lot of money on the Ukrainian side — working hand-in-glove with US State Dept Victoria Nuland.
How do you think Kolomoisky gets his money? Same as Biden. Corruption. They all work together to keep the crime syndicate operational.
Do you believe for one second Kolomoisky is running his own agenda? His interests are to keep his money and his head. And grease whatever wheels demand greasing.
2019, RAND Corporation published a series of reports on how to destabilize Russia. Overextending and Unbalancing Russia has Ukraine in the playbook. Look at their other reports to see what else Empire USA has planned.
How do you think these oligarchs have multimillion properties in the USA?
they know the media won't report on their barbarity, but will report on any retaliation in kind.
I'll be honest I know Russia is a master of propaganda rivaling that of Globohomo. However there is one undisputable fact about both their accounts that automatically make Russia more trustworthy of telling the truth, raw footage. The MSM has no raw footage that isn't fake, every one comes back recycled from previous conflicts or fictional dramatization. Meanwhile I've seen raw footage of missile strikes, drone strikes, humanitarian efforts, building sweeps, witness interviewing, official progress reports, on and on from the Russian side. The amount of RAW FOOTAGE they are willing to show is really a measure of how honest they're being.
The Chechens have never cared about the Geneva Convention.
Remember, in the first go-round, the Nazis hated the Russians because they were Slavic and not "Arian".
Those aren't Russian soldiers. Probably volunteers they asked to get then took their kits and used them for propaganda.
Better wrap your head around the fact that the jews = ashkeNAZI
The real nazis arent German. They are and are jews, fake jews not historical hebrews.
That’d be antisemitic to suggest some subgroup consisting of mostly Jewish people cannot use lost souls as useful idiots to conduct their agenda…
https://files.catbox.moe/1o9a1h.png
Finishing what began with the Fall of the Tsar: destroying anything Russian.
The Ukro-nazis are nazis because they self identify as such.
What don't you get about it?
Can you read at all? I defined the Nazis not as leading (mostly Jews) but as « useful tools ».
Angry people are an excellent catalyst in politics.
The same way that France’s « socialist » François Mitterand helped promote Le Pen’s far-right in the 70s-80s to get the « moderate » right to lose plenty of votes.
They self identify as nazi and they hate Russians the most.
"Self-identify" is a pretty weak argument. If a man self-identifies as a woman, that doesn't make it so. If a child self-identifies as Superman, that doesn't make it so. If Biden self-identifies as the honestly-elected POTUS, that doesn't make it so. A major reason why things are so fucked-up right now is precisely because we're accepting all sorts of reality-denying "self-identify" bullshit!
Since naziism is a set of beliefs, if you identify as one, if you hold those beliefs, then you are one.
It's different from Biden identifying as a president or a man identifying as a woman,
I agree totally.
Thanks, his critical thinking is a bit lacking
Then these Azov guys don't seem to actually hold "nazi" beliefs, since they've been supported by a jewish billionaire, and are even now being defended by the ADL for not attacking jewish people or institutions.
If these guys are nazis, then I'm Genghis Khan.
U ain't genghis khan but you are way behind the curve here in understanding the lie.
Why do you think Naziism is all about Jews? Nazis hate all sorts of different people.
These nazis seem to be ethnic supremacists, they hate Russians the most, although i think they would turn on their billionaire funders if the funds dried up.
Well, hating jews seems to be so much more important to the nazis than anything else, so much that during a desperate two-front world war they still expended huge resources for death camps devoted entirely to killing 6 bajillion zillion gorillion jews (supposedly). For some reason these Azov guys just don't seem to putting in anywhere near the insane level of jew-hating to be expected from nazis. Feels more like they're just putting in the bare minimum to maintain narrative symbolism rather than acting on any genuine beliefs... almost as if the entire cultural framework of "nazis" we operate under just might be bullshit to begin with...
National Germans killed Torah believing Jess. Whatbwe would call real jews. History lied tonyou.
Theybwere supported by an Ashkenazi billionaire. These are Talmudic jews not Torah Jews. They are what the Bible calls the synagogue of Satan.
You are so close. Just expand your thinking. To truely control the population, a ruling class needs to control both extremes of society. Far left and far right. Left hand, right hand. Sheep dont listen to passive sheep dogs. Come on fren, 2+2=4.
Dude, I already know it's all manipulative bullshit. Just doing my bit to try to kill the fnord.
Funding.
Edit; See that Kolomoiskiyy funds Azov
Self identity, supremecist ideology. symbolism.
You are asking me things I don't know about for sure.
AFAIK, the Russians see the Ukrainians as wayward brothers. A subset of the Ukranians hate Russians and would kill them. These people have been encouraged by the west for decades. Through people like Victoris Nuland.
But I am neither Russian not Ukrainian, so my understanding could be wrong.
Semantics.
Who do you think I vented Nazism?
It's in their fucking name, for crying out loud.
AshkeNAZI jews.
I once heard somebody explain the word “cappuccino” is because the foam makes a “cap.” 😂🤣😂
Please support your arguments. I’ll start.
• They are Nazis because of what they say and do
Time magazine documentary: Inside A White Supremacist Militia in Ukraine
Women and the Azov battalion in Kyiv, Ukraine | DW Documentary
Watch Yevhen Karas the leader of Ukraine's neo-Nazi terror gang C14's press conference in Kiev, February, ‘22
• They reject orders from Zelensky and Ukrainian Army
2019 Zelensky tries to implement Minsk cease-fire agreements, Azov Battalion tells him to pound sand:
These Nazis were organized and empowered by the C_A to carry out the C_A 2014 coup, and are trained and funded by the West:
NATO is arming and training Nazis in Ukraine, as US floods with weapons
• We know this playbook to topple governments. Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, now Azov...
Weeks after Biden installed, the Atlantic Council starts the narrative that the Nazis aren’t so bad after all...
Authored by a guy from the “Free Russia Foundation” — i.e. “Regime Change” sponsors.
They want us arguing about Nazis and Jews. That way we don’t focus too much on the NWO taking over the world.
You have not reviewed the supporting material. Nazi is their term, allegiance, admittedly going back to WWII and stating the same objectives.
The Jews were ‘violent foreigners?’ Think you’ll have a hard time making either case.
Hostile ethnic-religious battles are the fact of human history. The 1930 Germans desire for homogeneous identity does not make them evil or unique. Their methods and exceptional efficiency made them evil and unique.
who says "diversity is our strength"? Leftists.
look at the 1965 immigration act and what followed. this was an intentional policy to undermine cultural cohesion and principles of meritocracy.
the relative cohesion in the USA was (past tense) the result of common moral values that promoted character achievements over material "success". that is still a viable foundation as long as morality and character drive social status. the reality is that is predominantly a Protestant Christian world view.
Not sure which aspect you mean by “fake.” The 6 million number? I certainly agree that we don’t know the real number, and that it is wholly politicized.
But the estimates are derived from the meticulous record-keeping by Nazi bureaucrats. You have seen at least part of the Eichmann trial? Nuremberg?
There’s hundreds of hours of trial film. You can see and hear for yourself how the Defendants addressed the arguments, evidence, and testimonies.
For example, Eichmann’s own defense:
His Own Defense: Adolf Eichmann Trial -- Excerpt, Final Portion
notable admissions:
1.when Eichmann joined the Nazi Party 1932; the Nazis already had a “program of combatting the Jews” they had to downplay in order be win the 1932 election
2.Eichmann “forced emigration”; admits Jews ‘voluntary emigrated’ only due to fear and threat
3.at WANSEE, the meeting Eichmann organized and recorded minutes, is the protocol for “the Final Solution,” as Eichmann recounts, where "various possibilities for killing were discussed"
4.Eichmann reads Himmler’s speech at Posen specifying “exterminating the Jews”; Jews were considered “a germ that had to be destroyed, just like any other disease.”
Rudolf Hoess testimony from Nuremberg is pretty damning. Further, [Rudolf Hoess related, before his execution, how he often felt weak-kneed at having to push hundreds of screaming, pleading children into the gas chambers:" I did, however, always feel ashamed of this weakness of mine after I talked to Adolf Eichmann. He explained to me that it was especially the children who have to be killed first, because where was the logic in killing a generation of older people and leaving alive a generation of young people who can be possible avengers of their parents and can constitute a new biological cell for the reemerging of this people."]
Funding is public through NATO, dark through C_A, and deceptive though US Congressional appropriations.
Is it surprising to see money-power pay mercenaries to do their dirty work? The political “Jews” are not religious; the whole NWO is anti-God. These ‘elites’ feel they are untouchable, as if the forces of hell they release won’t blow back on them.
They’re psychopaths.
Yes, Kolomoisky has put in a lot of money on the Ukrainian side — working hand-in-glove with US State Dept Victoria Nuland.
How do you think Kolomoisky gets his money? Same as Biden. Corruption. They all work together to keep the crime syndicate operational.
Do you believe for one second Kolomoisky is running his own agenda? His interests are to keep his money and his head. And grease whatever wheels demand greasing.
2019, RAND Corporation published a series of reports on how to destabilize Russia. Overextending and Unbalancing Russia has Ukraine in the playbook. Look at their other reports to see what else Empire USA has planned.
How do you think these oligarchs have multimillion properties in the USA?