It's the ultimate in goal post moving as well which is why I refuse to engage in the discussion anymore. Try asking them why objects in space that you can observe through a home-built telescope are round and watch the mental gymnastics as they try to either use some "fish-eye lens" nonsense or try to explain why God would make the Earth flat but the things orbiting it round.
It is sometimes asked that if the visible celestial bodies are spheres, why isn't the Earth a sphere? The logic that the Earth must be a sphere because the celestial bodies that we see are spheres is only one possible interpretation. It could also be logical that all bodies need a plane of existence to exist upon or over, like all other bodies of human experience. Pebbles in a stream have a stream bed. Basketballs have a basketball court. The game Water Polo consists of a court with a flat bottom and balls which float on a medium. It does not follow because those objects are round, that the courts must also be round.
It's true that we can't necessarily say that the earth must be round because all other celestial bodies are round.
But we do ask why WOULDN'T the Earth be round if all other celestial bodies are round?
A sphere happens in nature so much because it's the shape that naturally forms when atoms congregate around a point (in this case, the gravitic core). Atoms are attracted and get as close as they can, "falling" toward the center. If there's a place that's closer that they can go, that's where they go. Eventually, all empty space around the center is filled up, forming the sphere.
It's why most of our cells tend to form spheres as well. The most energy-efficient system of transporting materials and nutrients will be in a sphere. This also accounts for why cells generally can't get too big: it becomes impossible for the organelles to effectively keep up, since expanding the surface area of a sphere disproportionately and dramatically increases its volume.
So if all observable free matter in the universe observably forms spheres, then it's a reasonable assumption to make that Earth would be no different. It's true that it isn't a flawless assumption, but it's a fair generalization that requires justification to reject.
If Earth isn't forming a sphere like literally all other matter we can see and when recreating similar testable conditions, then what's different about Earth that makes it worthy of exemption?
It sure would be. It also couldn't possibly be worth the resources to maintain that lie compared to the cost.
Look, for a Cabal to be as deeply-entrenched and powerful as they have apparently been for thousands of years, it requires a good deal of foresight and control.
So... this particular Cabal, with all of its foresight, decided to perpetuate a lie that they knew would become insurmountably difficult to protect in the near future? That anyone with a high enough vantage could see the edge of the Earth, and we now have private drones, millions of private pilots, private satellites, and countless other ways to see very high up into the air?
So either the Cabal never saw "humans go high up" as a problem they'd eventually have to deal with, or they did, and decided that tricking people about the shape of the earth was apparently worth the cost of bribing and controlling literally every space agency, every aviation industry, every space scientist, and everyone else.
Just for this lie.
That seems just a step below convincing everyone the sky has turned into a new color but also convincing everyone to stay inside and never actually look at the sky. Sure, it could be done, and yeah, there's an advantage to doing so, but it'll never be worth the cost it would take to maintain it.
There are WAY easier (and cheaper) ways to control people.
Soccer moms come here to learn about Q,this stuff gives them an easy reason to dismiss us. And people will start looking at this in the future when the SHTF.
We are trying to save people spiritual and physically,this doesn't help those goals,just makes the battle harder.
Thanks you for everything you post and comment. I don’t know if it was you or not but someone posted ewaranons “what on earth happened” here like 6months ago and it changed my life.
Take a simple course in 3d graphics and then see if you're still a flat earther. Or just watch a sunset at the beach...or just video chat someone in a different time zone at sunset...
Would depend on the distance of the trajectory.
Normal 'close range' trajectory is called 'flat trajectory' and is the norm, but such is not the case with an intercontinental nuke which uses gyro guidance that is dependent on spin and counterspin of a rotating spheroid that is earth and has a 'curved' path as shortest pathline to the target due to the spheroid spinning.
I’ll clarify that I am not a flat earther I am a NASA is a hoax person. So I will take this discussion as far as it’s fruitful. My issue with your statement is that guidance systems are used because too many variables. It could be miscalculations or damage to flight control surfaces etc. So you would need gyros on a flat earth for long range ballistics. You need it because of the range not the “curve” of the earth. If gyros are needed for both the flat and the sphere earth models we are at the impasse of the flat vs sphere of more proof is needed. Gyros in airplanes don’t prove the earth is round. The artificial horizon stays level at cruise and altitude stays constant when mathematically altitude should increase if nose is pointed level on the artificial horizon
This is true. None of our astronomical models work, nor ever have. They all depend on epicycles and other cheats, including today.
If you are interested in the subject, I highly recommend you join us on the community I created specifically for such discussions (click my username, I only moderate one community)!
Stop by, check it out, ask questions, disagree, and/or contribute in any way you wish (as long as you're earnest)!
This is a tough one and gets everybody uncomfortable. I would recommend looking at NASA to start and why is their math models always ending up in 666. Here are a few examples that someone put together for reference below.
Than it’s off to Google Maps…Google Maps/Chrome symbols that show you CERN, Both of Which Work With NASA, We Find 666 hidden in plain sight on their symbols.
33: The Earth’s Axis, it’s Orbital Inclination around the Sun is 66.6 Degrees
32: The Earth Orbits the Sun at 66,600 Miles Per Hour
31: The Earth’s Circumference is 600x6x6 Nautical Miles
30: The Speed of Sound is 666 Knots Per Second
29: The Force of Gravity on Earth is 666 Newtons
28: The Curvature of A Square Mile is .666 Feet... in 10 Miles: 66.6 Ft... in 20 Miles: 266.6 Ft... 40M: 1,066.6 Ft... 50M: 1,666 Ft… 70M: 3,266.6 Ft… 80M: 4,266.6 Ft… 100M: 6,666.6Ft… The Heliocentric Curvature Math is Based on 666
27: The Arctic & Antarctic Circles are at exactly 66.6°
26: Astro-Not Peggy Whitson Spent 666 Days in Space
25: The Distance to the Moon is 6 x 60 x 666 Miles
24: The Diameter of the Moon is 6 x 6 x 60 Miles
23: Sunset is Divided by 3 Degrees (6° + 6° + 6°) aka: “Civil, Nautical, and Astronomical Twilight”
22: From Mercury, the Sun is 666 Times Brighter, Using the Inverse Square Law
21: Venus is 464° Celsius or 867° Fahrenheit (The Median of These Two Numbers: 666)
20: Mars is at 1.666 AU (Astronomical Units) from the sun at Aphelion
19: Ceres (Classified as a Dwarf Planet in the Asteroid Belt) Has a 466.6 Day Synodic Period
18: The Comet Shoemaker Levy Collided with Jupiter, Traveling at 6 x 6 x 6 x 1000 Kilometers Per Hour
17: Saturn’s Orbital Distance is 1,426,666,422 Kilometers or 9.54 AU
16: The Surface Temperature of Uranus is: -6x6x6°
15: The Surface Temperature of Neptune is: -6x6x6°
14: Pluto’s Orbital Velocity is 4.666 Kilometers Per Second
13: NASA’s Budget is $18 Billion (6+6+6)
12: The Speed of Light is 670,616,`629 MPH. The Middle Number 616, Some have Claimed Is the Accurate Number of the Beast, instead of 666. The Common Rounded Form... 670,000,000 x .6 x .6 x .6 is also interesting… 144,720,000, because 144 and 72 are Important Biblical Numbers (144,000 Elect and 72 Steps of Jacob’s Ladder to Heaven aka the Stars) 144 Cubits is 216 Feet (6 x 6 x 6)
11: Saturn’s Hexagonal Pole is a 6 sided, 6 pointed Polygon Representing a Cube Containing 6 Triangles (A Hex), and it is the 6th planet
10: A Day is 23 Hours and 56 Minutes, but We Round it to 60 Seconds, 60 Minutes, and 24 Hours (& 2+4 in Numerology is 6), Because Father Time is Saturn aka Cronos (or Crono-logy) the Greco-Roman God of Time, Chaos, and Death
09: Kepler’s 3rd Law Calculates a Planet’s Mean Distance From the Sun, giving the Planet’s Orbital Period Raised to the Power of .666666
08: On the Globe model, the Distance From the Tip of South America, to the Tip of Africa, is 6,660 Kilometers
07: North America is 66.66° Wide on a Globe - from The Furthest Tip to the Other (Key Largo, Florida, to Yesterday Island, Alaska)
06: Eurasia On the Globe Model, From the Lighthouse in Cape St. Vincent, Portugal, Straight Across to the other side of the land mass at the Haicang Bridge in China, 6,066 Nautical Miles
05: South America, on the Globular Map, From the Northern Most Point to the Southern Most Point, is 66.6° Long, and the Line Passes directly Through the continent’s Highest Peak, Mt. Aconcagua
04: On The Globular Map, Africa is 66.6° Wide From its Western Most Point in Dakar to the Easternmost Projection of Somalia. Forming a perfect cross, it is 66.6° High From its Southernmost Point to the Place Where the Line Running due North Hits the Mediterranean, near Benghazi
03: The Logos of Both Google’s GPS system through Chrome and CERN, Both of Which Work With NASA, We Find 666 hidden in plain sight
02: Switzerland Company Maxon Motors Provided the Electrodrives that Power NASA’s Spirit and Opportunity Rovers on Mars. You can contact them at +41 (41) 666 15 00 by phone or +41 (41) 666 16 16 by Fax
01: Earthlings and Life Itself are Made of Carbon, Which has 6 Protons, 6 Neutrons, and 6 Electrons. Revelations 13:16 “And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead.” (NASA: Number of man, Bible: Number of A man).
A stationary "Plane" with a magnetic core that rotates
Lol. The geodynamo is unscientific fiction regardless of the shape of the world. You might want to learn about the curie point! Unless you think the world is a LOT more engineered and closer to a machine than a planet or plane...
If you have an interest in the subject (as it seems you do) you should join us on the community I created specifically to discuss such topics!
I look forward to learning more about your views, assuming you're game!
If stars were this phenomenon, then high enough speed "photography"/light detection could see them flash (in between the bubble expansion and collapse).
Any idea where the energy for this (i assume highly focused) sound would be coming from? And do you suppose it is terrestrial?
I already have a thread about this subject on the community I made, but I don't have too much detail to provide to it - sadly. It sounds like maybe you do!
It's the ultimate in goal post moving as well which is why I refuse to engage in the discussion anymore. Try asking them why objects in space that you can observe through a home-built telescope are round and watch the mental gymnastics as they try to either use some "fish-eye lens" nonsense or try to explain why God would make the Earth flat but the things orbiting it round.
https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Cosmos -
It's true that we can't necessarily say that the earth must be round because all other celestial bodies are round.
But we do ask why WOULDN'T the Earth be round if all other celestial bodies are round?
A sphere happens in nature so much because it's the shape that naturally forms when atoms congregate around a point (in this case, the gravitic core). Atoms are attracted and get as close as they can, "falling" toward the center. If there's a place that's closer that they can go, that's where they go. Eventually, all empty space around the center is filled up, forming the sphere.
It's why most of our cells tend to form spheres as well. The most energy-efficient system of transporting materials and nutrients will be in a sphere. This also accounts for why cells generally can't get too big: it becomes impossible for the organelles to effectively keep up, since expanding the surface area of a sphere disproportionately and dramatically increases its volume.
So if all observable free matter in the universe observably forms spheres, then it's a reasonable assumption to make that Earth would be no different. It's true that it isn't a flawless assumption, but it's a fair generalization that requires justification to reject.
If Earth isn't forming a sphere like literally all other matter we can see and when recreating similar testable conditions, then what's different about Earth that makes it worthy of exemption?
Then how do they explain the different "faces" of the bodies as if they were rotating?
What advantage is there for a Cabal in tricking people about the shape of the Earth?
It would be a huge advantage to keep others in the dark whole you are a thousand years ahead
It sure would be. It also couldn't possibly be worth the resources to maintain that lie compared to the cost.
Look, for a Cabal to be as deeply-entrenched and powerful as they have apparently been for thousands of years, it requires a good deal of foresight and control.
So... this particular Cabal, with all of its foresight, decided to perpetuate a lie that they knew would become insurmountably difficult to protect in the near future? That anyone with a high enough vantage could see the edge of the Earth, and we now have private drones, millions of private pilots, private satellites, and countless other ways to see very high up into the air?
So either the Cabal never saw "humans go high up" as a problem they'd eventually have to deal with, or they did, and decided that tricking people about the shape of the earth was apparently worth the cost of bribing and controlling literally every space agency, every aviation industry, every space scientist, and everyone else.
Just for this lie.
That seems just a step below convincing everyone the sky has turned into a new color but also convincing everyone to stay inside and never actually look at the sky. Sure, it could be done, and yeah, there's an advantage to doing so, but it'll never be worth the cost it would take to maintain it.
There are WAY easier (and cheaper) ways to control people.
To hide God.
To hide God's hand in the Creation.
A flat domed earth is a created earth.
Why limit God's creation of Earth to 2D? He can create any dimension.
Great Circle routes. Rhumb Lines.
Wow
It makes us look silly,all believers in it should keep quite,if they also belive in Q.
It's like going around,stabbing yourself in the ass.
OK then ask God what's more important.
Freeing humanity from a satanic cabal.
Or convincing them the earth is flat.
Soccer moms come here to learn about Q,this stuff gives them an easy reason to dismiss us. And people will start looking at this in the future when the SHTF.
We are trying to save people spiritual and physically,this doesn't help those goals,just makes the battle harder.
Iowa is as flat as a 4th grader but that's as far as I would go with it
Use your intellect to help us defeat the SCOTUS nominee, overturn the 2020 election, block the southern border, and support America First candidates.
👆this👍
How does this particular lie, assuming it is one, connect with the current Plan, or any Q posts?
It's going to be Biblical.
Thanks you for everything you post and comment. I don’t know if it was you or not but someone posted ewaranons “what on earth happened” here like 6months ago and it changed my life.
Take a simple course in 3d graphics and then see if you're still a flat earther. Or just watch a sunset at the beach...or just video chat someone in a different time zone at sunset...
Well if you just click around the website and look at their page on how the sunset works your questions would be answered - https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration
Science never told me it's impossible to have a _________, so it is possible.
Science, if understood correctly should help eliminate the impossible.
Like a flat earth for example.
This 'Three Body Principle" is flawed in many ways and it wouldn't matter if your name is Newton, or Rasputin.
Three bodies behavior depends on size, not the other way around.
How they would act in space would be different to how they would act on earth in its atmosphere in any case.
This is convolution of Newton the Alchemist, and I'd suggest it's intentional.
Newtonian notions have all been expanded upon as well.
Things that spin in formation, form spheroidal in shape.
Invisible frog on my head.
Science never told me it's impossible to have one.
Sure was. And for that you got a down doot from a glowie.
Well I hope whoever shoots missiles uses a flat earth schematic as trajectory.
Sure to miss.
The military uses flat earth math and excludes all earthly rotation and whatnot when triangulating coordinates and launching artillery
Would depend on the distance of the trajectory. Normal 'close range' trajectory is called 'flat trajectory' and is the norm, but such is not the case with an intercontinental nuke which uses gyro guidance that is dependent on spin and counterspin of a rotating spheroid that is earth and has a 'curved' path as shortest pathline to the target due to the spheroid spinning.
I’ll clarify that I am not a flat earther I am a NASA is a hoax person. So I will take this discussion as far as it’s fruitful. My issue with your statement is that guidance systems are used because too many variables. It could be miscalculations or damage to flight control surfaces etc. So you would need gyros on a flat earth for long range ballistics. You need it because of the range not the “curve” of the earth. If gyros are needed for both the flat and the sphere earth models we are at the impasse of the flat vs sphere of more proof is needed. Gyros in airplanes don’t prove the earth is round. The artificial horizon stays level at cruise and altitude stays constant when mathematically altitude should increase if nose is pointed level on the artificial horizon
Science also didn't tell me that it's not possible to have seasons on a flat earth. OH ya it did. Nevermind.
This is true. None of our astronomical models work, nor ever have. They all depend on epicycles and other cheats, including today.
If you are interested in the subject, I highly recommend you join us on the community I created specifically for such discussions (click my username, I only moderate one community)!
Stop by, check it out, ask questions, disagree, and/or contribute in any way you wish (as long as you're earnest)!
I'd tell you that I care little for models, they never explain anything (and that is never their purpose), and aether is demonstrably real.
We already know the answer. Come share your views and discuss further on the community I created!
Here are a couple of sites with good discussions:
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/Flat-Earth/
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php
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Jack, wow. No intellectual curiosity at all? I thought you were game.
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Zeitreise, God is in control. The bad guys really don't have as much power as you think.
Metabunk is garbage. "Debunking" is solely for and by idiots, exclusively.
Intellectuals prefer earnest research and objective study.
Electricity chooses the path of least resistance also.
This is a tough one and gets everybody uncomfortable. I would recommend looking at NASA to start and why is their math models always ending up in 666. Here are a few examples that someone put together for reference below.
Than it’s off to Google Maps…Google Maps/Chrome symbols that show you CERN, Both of Which Work With NASA, We Find 666 hidden in plain sight on their symbols.
33: The Earth’s Axis, it’s Orbital Inclination around the Sun is 66.6 Degrees
32: The Earth Orbits the Sun at 66,600 Miles Per Hour
31: The Earth’s Circumference is 600x6x6 Nautical Miles
30: The Speed of Sound is 666 Knots Per Second
29: The Force of Gravity on Earth is 666 Newtons
28: The Curvature of A Square Mile is .666 Feet... in 10 Miles: 66.6 Ft... in 20 Miles: 266.6 Ft... 40M: 1,066.6 Ft... 50M: 1,666 Ft… 70M: 3,266.6 Ft… 80M: 4,266.6 Ft… 100M: 6,666.6Ft… The Heliocentric Curvature Math is Based on 666
27: The Arctic & Antarctic Circles are at exactly 66.6°
26: Astro-Not Peggy Whitson Spent 666 Days in Space
25: The Distance to the Moon is 6 x 60 x 666 Miles
24: The Diameter of the Moon is 6 x 6 x 60 Miles
23: Sunset is Divided by 3 Degrees (6° + 6° + 6°) aka: “Civil, Nautical, and Astronomical Twilight”
22: From Mercury, the Sun is 666 Times Brighter, Using the Inverse Square Law
21: Venus is 464° Celsius or 867° Fahrenheit (The Median of These Two Numbers: 666)
20: Mars is at 1.666 AU (Astronomical Units) from the sun at Aphelion
19: Ceres (Classified as a Dwarf Planet in the Asteroid Belt) Has a 466.6 Day Synodic Period
18: The Comet Shoemaker Levy Collided with Jupiter, Traveling at 6 x 6 x 6 x 1000 Kilometers Per Hour
17: Saturn’s Orbital Distance is 1,426,666,422 Kilometers or 9.54 AU
16: The Surface Temperature of Uranus is: -6x6x6°
15: The Surface Temperature of Neptune is: -6x6x6°
14: Pluto’s Orbital Velocity is 4.666 Kilometers Per Second
13: NASA’s Budget is $18 Billion (6+6+6)
12: The Speed of Light is
670,616,`629 MPH. The Middle Number 616, Some have Claimed Is the Accurate Number of the Beast, instead of 666. The Common Rounded Form... 670,000,000 x .6 x .6 x .6 is also interesting… 144,720,000, because 144 and 72 are Important Biblical Numbers (144,000 Elect and 72 Steps of Jacob’s Ladder to Heaven aka the Stars) 144 Cubits is 216 Feet (6 x 6 x 6)11: Saturn’s Hexagonal Pole is a 6 sided, 6 pointed Polygon Representing a Cube Containing 6 Triangles (A Hex), and it is the 6th planet
10: A Day is 23 Hours and 56 Minutes, but We Round it to 60 Seconds, 60 Minutes, and 24 Hours (& 2+4 in Numerology is 6), Because Father Time is Saturn aka Cronos (or Crono-logy) the Greco-Roman God of Time, Chaos, and Death
09: Kepler’s 3rd Law Calculates a Planet’s Mean Distance From the Sun, giving the Planet’s Orbital Period Raised to the Power of .666666
08: On the Globe model, the Distance From the Tip of South America, to the Tip of Africa, is 6,660 Kilometers
07: North America is 66.66° Wide on a Globe - from The Furthest Tip to the Other (Key Largo, Florida, to Yesterday Island, Alaska)
06: Eurasia On the Globe Model, From the Lighthouse in Cape St. Vincent, Portugal, Straight Across to the other side of the land mass at the Haicang Bridge in China, 6,066 Nautical Miles
05: South America, on the Globular Map, From the Northern Most Point to the Southern Most Point, is 66.6° Long, and the Line Passes directly Through the continent’s Highest Peak, Mt. Aconcagua
04: On The Globular Map, Africa is 66.6° Wide From its Western Most Point in Dakar to the Easternmost Projection of Somalia. Forming a perfect cross, it is 66.6° High From its Southernmost Point to the Place Where the Line Running due North Hits the Mediterranean, near Benghazi
03: The Logos of Both Google’s GPS system through Chrome and CERN, Both of Which Work With NASA, We Find 666 hidden in plain sight
02: Switzerland Company Maxon Motors Provided the Electrodrives that Power NASA’s Spirit and Opportunity Rovers on Mars. You can contact them at +41 (41) 666 15 00 by phone or +41 (41) 666 16 16 by Fax
01: Earthlings and Life Itself are Made of Carbon, Which has 6 Protons, 6 Neutrons, and 6 Electrons. Revelations 13:16 “And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead.” (NASA: Number of man, Bible: Number of A man).
33 points...🤫😏
Sauce:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LevelHeadedFE/comments/gvs2es/33_examples_of_666_in_modern_science_and_globe/
Lol. The geodynamo is unscientific fiction regardless of the shape of the world. You might want to learn about the curie point! Unless you think the world is a LOT more engineered and closer to a machine than a planet or plane...
If you have an interest in the subject (as it seems you do) you should join us on the community I created specifically to discuss such topics!
I look forward to learning more about your views, assuming you're game!
He wasn't alone in that "postulation". Aether is real. Nikola tesla is mostly fiction.
I've encountered this before, but don't really know what the people who use the word mean by it.
Do you know the apparatus setup?
If stars were this phenomenon, then high enough speed "photography"/light detection could see them flash (in between the bubble expansion and collapse).
Any idea where the energy for this (i assume highly focused) sound would be coming from? And do you suppose it is terrestrial?
I already have a thread about this subject on the community I made, but I don't have too much detail to provide to it - sadly. It sounds like maybe you do!
Wait, did I miss in all our conversations that you're in the flat earth car of the Q train?