Continuing on my multi part series, in part 1 and 2 we discussed how Kushner received a 2 billion dollar investment from the saudi prince, in his start up company only months after trumps admin ended.
We discussed how Kushner front lined the saudi peace deal, how the Trump team helped place Mohammed bin Salman in charge of SA and their various connections. How Trumps sec. of Treasury is Kushner's co worker at Afinity who also worked on the saudi peace deal.
Part 1
https://greatawakening.win/p/15HIm99KZc/so-are-we-just-going-to-ignore-k/
Part 2
https://greatawakening.win/p/15HImBQOnL/over-target-kushner-and-ivanka-c/
These were not well received. Maybe because the negative light it shines on the trump family. But i feel that these deals and connections HAVE to be discussed and brought to light.
In part 3 we'll go over Ivanka Trump's business deals and how she made $640 million dollars DURING the trump presidency.
Ivanka reported $640 million in outside income during the trump presidency.
Some other weird fillings, such as claiming her hotel ownership stake of 25mil was worth only 250k, while not reporting any sale of her stake in the hotels.
Her brand that she closed in 2018, made over 1 mil in 2019.
In 2017, Ivanka’s business won preliminary approval for three Chinese trademarks on the same day that she dined with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago. She is approved for 16 new chinese trademarks. These trademarks were approved 1 WEEK before Trump announced he was going to lift the ban on the chinese company ZTE. The same week ivanka had dinner with Xi at Mar-a-Lago.
One of the 16 trademarks approved for Ivanka was a trademark for voting machines. Why is Ivanka being approved for chinese voting machine trademarks?
Several other deals that place while her and Kushner worked for the white house are detailed in this link. https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/jared-and-ivanka-made-up-to-640-million-in-the-white-house/
The trademarks are listed here. https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/ivanka-trump-trademarks/
This brings up countless conflict of interest situations. I want to believe Trump is a white hat but how do we justify his children making $640,000,000 dollars from deals directly effected by his policies? Or a 2 billion dollar kickback investment detailed in part 1 and 2.
Opinions? Thoughts? Please keep this civil. I know this is a touchy subject and that Trump is seen as somewhat of a saint around here. But can anyone explain how this is an different than the typical top level criminal activity that takes place with political families? Clinton's, Biden's, Bush's etc etc.
I'm going to assume that everything you are saying is accurate, and is not missing any important context. Then I am going to ask, so what?
These people are billionaires. They were billionaire's before Trump became President. There is no evidence that I have seen that Trump, or his family made any more money than they would have otherwise. In fact the evidence I have seen suggests they have made less. But even if they did, so what?
Money is meaningless. It is all going to be soon exposed as completely and utterly meaningless. We must come to the precipice. The financial precipice is a huge part of that.
These "conflicts of interest" are in no way meaningful in the grander scope of world events. This is about us understanding the fraud of money, and media, and leaders in general. I think part of Trump's intended job is to show us that he can't be trusted. We must learn that our leaders are not our saviors. WE are our saviors. We The People are the real power. Everything else is a fraud. If it turns out that Trump does get substantially implicated in illegal activities (which I seriously doubt, but who knows) then it will almost certainly be so that we can learn we must take care of shit ourselves. We must create our own new world.
We The People are the power. We The People are the solution. Trump's job is to show us that.
And Kushner is not Trump. I don't know what Kushner's deal is, but it is a very important distinction. If Trump is complicit in Kushner crimes, then so be it, it is what it is, but unless and until there is evidence of that, Kushner is on his own. I have always thought he was a bad seed, but he is also a part of The Show. I don't know what his role is, and perhaps making the world not trust Trump is it (for the realizations I mentioned above). But that is purely speculation.
The point is, this is completely irrelevant, since the real problems are not a few billion dollars here or there.
I hate that response so much. So what? So political corruption is ok? We cant do anything about it so so what?
You can not criticize then biden crime family for the same reason. So what, they we were already wealthy.
That just doesnt make any sense. I feel like we keep giving them a free pass.
Well initially it was thought that maybe the kushner deal was a trap. But when you dig into the connections and history you quickly see that isnt so. Trump pardoned Kushner's dad who was a long time democrat donor who was put in prison for illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering involving the democrat party. Why would he do that? Then all the deals with Jared, the entire family is getting filthy rich from their chinese and saudi connections.
That part i agree, i never liked kushner. That family are open zionists with bad Israeli and democrat party connections.
Maybe at the end of this we will find out what really happened but for now id just like to start the discussion. The way this site lashes out against that though raises even more concerns.
That's not what I said. You obviously didn't actually read what I wrote. I qualified it, I didn't leave it hanging.
I said its not the real problem and I gave an outline of what is.
If you are going to address what I said, please address what I said, not what I didn't.
You had a long winded response that basically stated "so what". You made it clear that you dont care about illegal conflict of interests deals made while in office, which is clear political corruption.
The trump family had to commit crimes and gain a massive amount of wealth to expose the real criminals? Come on man.
Ivanka's deal while she held a position at the white house, made with the chinese, is crime. She made $640 million in 4 years. Money that was made directly from policies that her father, the sitting president, created.
Actually, I laid out what I believe is the real problem. You are suggesting we have reasonable conversations, but then don't listen to what people are actually saying.
This is not in any way what I said. In fact nothing could be further from the truth. I am finishing up a very detailed report on this very topic.
I said, that there are bigger problems that are being taken care of within the context of your protests of action. The problems of the world, the real problems of the world, do not care about such meaningless things such as this. You are watching a show. This is all a show. Whatever the outcome, it was planned as part of the show. We are intended to learn the appropriate lessons. The evidence suggests that Trump's job is to lead us to that realization. If it turns out that part of that is crimes committed by Kushner, or Ivanka, or even Trump himself, than that is the planned part of the Show.
So be it. It Is what It Is. The lesson we are intended to learn is the same no matter what the truth of these events is. THAT is why I say, so what?
That is far from conclusive. I'm not saying you are wrong but your case is far from sufficient. Debate doesn't end with the initial presentation of evidence, but from long deliberations and investigation. You can't just say "Hey look, here's a conflict of interest" and then assume that it automatically means a crime has been committed. That's not how investigation works, especially in a world where disinformation is the most important commodity, and the Trumps specifically are the victims of lies of disinformation more than anyone else I've ever seen.
I dont agree with the first half but thats perfectly ok. Thats why we need these discussions.
There is just no way to justify crime for some bigger picture. The ends justifies the means stuff is straight out of the communist manifesto. Similar to trump being an advocate for a vaccine thats killing innocent children.
If we took the stance of current crime is ok if it exposes the whole picture then a full illegal military takeover would have been a better option. Just arrest everyone involved and seize their assets, skip the long game and get it over with. But no one wants martial law, just like no one should want political corruption to continue. Just like i hope no one is ok with killing children to expose big pharm. There is nothing worth that cost.
After this is over we will still use the dollar. Those who profit now will still have that profit afterwards. Trump himself has said he wants to keep the dollar but have it backed by gold. Like the russians just did.
You keep doing it. I didn't justify anything. That is NOT what I am saying. Can you please try to appreciate that from my perspective, you are completely missing what I am saying?
Crime is crime. But we are watching a fucking Show. Until you realize what is going on you can't appreciate the players within the show.
There is nothing that happened during Trump's presidency (at least with regards to the Trump family) that wasn't by design. If it turns out that crimes were committed (which I seriously doubt, though maybe), then that was by design for the Show.
THAT is why I say, Who Fucking Cares. It's like talking about a murderer in a movie and asking why the actor isn't in prison.
If you don't realize this is A Show, you need to do more research.
Umm...
Well of course this is a show, but these actors have a real world effect. The money that these actors make in their move is real. Its real and illegal.
Its like if an actor actually killed someone in a movie. Thats still a crime. Unless youre alex baldwin apparently, but still. When trump said in his movie that people should take the vaccine, people in the real world actually took it. Children died because of it that actors actions.
Thats why i care. The actions of these actors are real.
When the movie is over will they give that 2.7 billion back? Because that was real money the actors were using.
We haven't used the U.S. dollar in almost 100 years. All we have used since ~1933 are Federal Reserve Notes. FRN's have nothing to do with the U.S. Dollar.
Now if that were the case then you would most certainly have a point.
But we trade USD internationally. Its called the USD or the U.S. dollar to everyone who uses it. Thats its legal term that its traded under.
Are you saying that all current money would be worthless under the new system? Russia didnt do that. Wouldnt that render all retirements and investments worthless?
That would be a massive shock to our way of life. How would the elderly start over?
Jared Kushner was rich long before he met Ivanka Trump.
Of course he was, but have you read part 1 or 2 that i linked?
And Ivanka making 640 million while working for the white house under her father is pretty blatant. I dont know why we dont view their actions the same as previous political families but they blow away everyone else is how much they made while in office.
People are going to say this is nothing like Hunter Biden on Burisma, but we have to remind them this is nothing like that, at all.
That was the excuse for the Kusher/Afinity absolutely. They claimed because it happened when trump was out of office. Ignoring the reality of it all and unable to add 2+2. They also make those claims while claiming is still the actual president lol.
Ivanka made $640 directly from policies created by her father, the sitting president, at the time.
Yaaaaaawn , stick with the real crime families ruing our country once that shits straightened out we will listen to the petty stuff
Petty? They netted themselves a cool $2.7 billion in a 6 year period. That makes the biden and clinton crime families look like peanuts in comparison.
Not to mention that apparently Ivanka now owns the rights to the voting machines that will be used in up comming elections. How much is that worth?
The end justifies the means stuff is straight out of the communist manifesto.
How long should Kushner have waited? Or should he never accept any money from anyone ever again?
In Pt1 you claimed:
What was the Big Man's cut? Do you know?
Mods can we clear this garbage up. This Zeitreise guy has been blocked but is still spamming my threads with his psychobabble. This is a blatant and obvious attempt to derail legitimate discussion.
I am a long time healthcare professional and dont need to explain myself to a dullard who claimed hospitals are dosing covid patients with fentanyl.
It really makes me wonder why these kushner and ivanka dirty dealings are bringing out such emotional responses, even from mods who openly attacked me in part 1 of this discussion. I think we need more eyes on the topic.
Yes sir, I'm going to get rid of the problem right away!
u/Zeitreise
You too!
Um... they ARE usung fentanyl on covid patients that are intubated and or on vent
Im going to need a source on that one there chief. Because as a healthcare profession that sounds absolutely absurd.
There was a trial for Nebulized Fentanyl with covid patients that had 200 volunteers and no one died. I never heard of it being publicly used.
Thank God, I thought it was just me. His nonsense is fucking insufferable! He's not autistic. He's a fucking retard.
Lmao, no the guy lives on another planet. Hes out there. Rambling about some made up argument over an EPIC system thats called something different in every state and claiming that hospitals are killing covid patients with fentanyl. The guy is nuts.
Is he a mod alt or what? Hes blocked and can still mess up my threads with his meth fueled ramblings.
That's news to me. I blocked him with his anti-Jew/anti-Israel nonsense--literally throwing out Hebrew words without knowing what they actually mean, like he's completely unaware of Trump's family's history with Jews, Israel, and the community, and that Trump is a Zionist too.
Seriously how is this guy still posting? Is that a mod account or what?
Because you’re a troll/shill and he’s not? Pretty simple.
Hes blocked, has been for a long time. He should not be able to reply correct?
Wow, what a POS OP is. Thanks for the heads up 👍