I’d be getting one of those little camping stoves and stocking up on the little propane canisters. They will cook/ heat up your food.
I lived in my truck for nearly a year and that’s what I had to cook my food.
A dehydrator, vacuum sealer and some work, buying in bulk (find a Amish store) you can do it for a fraction of the cost. I put up 3150000 Calories in a little over a year
That certainly looks interesting. I can't cook worth a damn, but that looks like something that's doable. Sometimes eat eggs and veggies, and you're good. It's also apparently incredible nutrient dense and very high in calories, so maybe not ideal if you live a more sedentary lifestyle.
We don't need crap that lasts 20 years, we will be back in control within a few years. Spam and Tuna in the can is a good start. Rice can be stored. Etc...There's a lot we can do to prepare.
We don't need crap that lasts 20 years, we will be back in control within a few years.
If there is going to be a break in our food supply, we don't know when that will be. That is the reason for getting a long term emergency pack of food.
And you don't need a 3 month supply. If the shelves are empty for three months, then we are in Mad Max mode, and roving gangs are going to be breaking into your house to kill you and take your food.
To plan for that, you need to do a lot more than just buy some tubs of food. To survive, you need to ally with others and so on.
Also do you really think we'll never have any more natural disasters over the next 20 years? This stuff comes in handy during a big storm, blizzard, hurricane, tornado, etc or do you really think that every single bad event is from a weather weapon and we never had any before they were invented?
Yeah, I have three tubs of survival food in the basement of my suburban home.
If some event took out the power and all the food in the fridge and freezer went bad, we really don't have enough food in the pantry to go more than a week or two.
So I think it is worth it to have some 20-year survival food. I'm no prepper, but I think everybody should be ready for at least a semi-major disruption. if it is a bigger event, more survival food isn't going to help, given what I have read about situations like that.
Pretty much everyone should have at least 30 days of emergency supplies. Natural disasters occur in virtually every corner of the world. The "Prepper" term is only derogatory to morons who expect someone else to come and save them after a natural disaster. I live in hurricane country, I used to live in Earthquake country. Suffice it to say, I have lived through major earthquakes (1989 East SF Bay), several scary wildfires, and a couple of hurricanes. We have gone over two weeks without power and had roads blocked by fallen trees. If you don't prepare for an unexpected event, you are going to be very unhappy when it actually happens.
Freeze dried food has it's place for long term storage. It is very expensive and not the only option for long term storage. Hard red wheat berries are long term storable along with properly stored dry white rice. Think decades or longer storage. Dried beans are also a very good long term food storage for relatively low amounts of cost. Food grade 5 gallon buckets and oxygen absorbers inside sealed mylar bags are ideal. These can all be done by virtually anyone with a bit of extra cash every month. A small bag of rice or dried beans can be had for a couple of bucks. Bulk mylar bags that are resealable 100 each qt size for mid $20's, gallons size 50ct for mid 30's and 500 oxygen absorbers for just under $30. Food grade 5 gallon buckets for storage, around $5-6 each with lid. It doesn't have to be expensive and with some spices, it can be very good. A little research on the web will tell you how it's done.
It means something you carry every day, like a knife you keep in you pocket at all times. When someone says EDC they usually mean which pistol and holster they strap on every morning.
I have a flashlight in every car along with a basic first aid kit and a small bag with some protein bars and water. Along with that stuff I keep a water key in each car as well. A water key allows you to turn on water outlets or hose bibs if there is no handle on the top.
I carry an Olight Baton III (up to 1000 lumens USB rechargeable with magnetic recharger) in my pocket every single day. I also carry a folding pocket knife. I also have first aid kits in both vehicles with clotting powder and canned water for emergencies. It's not crazy to be prepared. I actually feel "wrong" without my flashlight and pocket knife.
I'd not want to recommend any because of where they are made... the 4Patriots includes a lot of stuff that you may not ever use. There's a fellow on YouTube who has done a lot of testing... The trouble with these are that they can't power things that suck a lot of juice for very long. Anything that heats up or cools off sucks power up fast.
The name brands seem to test out pretty good according to the YouTube fellow.
These people sell this stuff because they push fear. MAD MAX IS COMING HOW WILL YOU SURVIVE?? Then they tell you they have the only solution. A bunch of batteries with a 100 watt solar panel. They sell you a 1 DAY solution for a few appliances, then you need all day of sun to recharge the batteries. For a one day solution, if you absolutely must have power, then get a small generator, and plug in a few appliances. If you've ever gone camping, then you can easily get by for longer. Keep the fridge/freezer closed and food will last days.
Only problem with a generator is they need fuel to run ,either petrol or gas so if supply is a problem then you’re still going to be without power.
I’m on a stand alone solar power system entirely off grid. It is a fairly big system though and does run two households. A small solar setup is probably the way to go with a genset backup.
My last house, which was in a rural area, we had a 250 gal propane tank, and a 10K gal water tank. With a dual fuel generator we could hunker down for many months. The back up water pump was a 12v unit which could run for days on a 12v deep cycle battery. A small solar panel would keep it charged. When we had power outages, which were frequent due to SoCal Edison shutting of the power when the wind would blow, we would run the generator for short times so the freezer and refrigerator would cool down again. If a person got a few manageable propane tanks, say 20 gal size, and a dual fuel generator, they could site tight for weeks if they were judicious in its use.
Yeah some people do find these small solar and batteries useful for small cabins where they just need to run lights and sometimes a small fridge while any heat comes from a wood stove.
I’d be getting one of those little camping stoves and stocking up on the little propane canisters. They will cook/ heat up your food. I lived in my truck for nearly a year and that’s what I had to cook my food.
A dehydrator, vacuum sealer and some work, buying in bulk (find a Amish store) you can do it for a fraction of the cost. I put up 3150000 Calories in a little over a year
Can't make and store Pemmican without them!
Pemmican baby. Pemmican
That certainly looks interesting. I can't cook worth a damn, but that looks like something that's doable. Sometimes eat eggs and veggies, and you're good. It's also apparently incredible nutrient dense and very high in calories, so maybe not ideal if you live a more sedentary lifestyle.
We don't need crap that lasts 20 years, we will be back in control within a few years. Spam and Tuna in the can is a good start. Rice can be stored. Etc...There's a lot we can do to prepare.
If there is going to be a break in our food supply, we don't know when that will be. That is the reason for getting a long term emergency pack of food.
And you don't need a 3 month supply. If the shelves are empty for three months, then we are in Mad Max mode, and roving gangs are going to be breaking into your house to kill you and take your food.
To plan for that, you need to do a lot more than just buy some tubs of food. To survive, you need to ally with others and so on.
Bingo. If it lasts that long we are screwed and have resorted to shooting vermin for food...or each other for trying to steal our shit
Also do you really think we'll never have any more natural disasters over the next 20 years? This stuff comes in handy during a big storm, blizzard, hurricane, tornado, etc or do you really think that every single bad event is from a weather weapon and we never had any before they were invented?
Yeah, I have three tubs of survival food in the basement of my suburban home.
If some event took out the power and all the food in the fridge and freezer went bad, we really don't have enough food in the pantry to go more than a week or two.
So I think it is worth it to have some 20-year survival food. I'm no prepper, but I think everybody should be ready for at least a semi-major disruption. if it is a bigger event, more survival food isn't going to help, given what I have read about situations like that.
Pretty much everyone should have at least 30 days of emergency supplies. Natural disasters occur in virtually every corner of the world. The "Prepper" term is only derogatory to morons who expect someone else to come and save them after a natural disaster. I live in hurricane country, I used to live in Earthquake country. Suffice it to say, I have lived through major earthquakes (1989 East SF Bay), several scary wildfires, and a couple of hurricanes. We have gone over two weeks without power and had roads blocked by fallen trees. If you don't prepare for an unexpected event, you are going to be very unhappy when it actually happens.
Freeze dried food has it's place for long term storage. It is very expensive and not the only option for long term storage. Hard red wheat berries are long term storable along with properly stored dry white rice. Think decades or longer storage. Dried beans are also a very good long term food storage for relatively low amounts of cost. Food grade 5 gallon buckets and oxygen absorbers inside sealed mylar bags are ideal. These can all be done by virtually anyone with a bit of extra cash every month. A small bag of rice or dried beans can be had for a couple of bucks. Bulk mylar bags that are resealable 100 each qt size for mid $20's, gallons size 50ct for mid 30's and 500 oxygen absorbers for just under $30. Food grade 5 gallon buckets for storage, around $5-6 each with lid. It doesn't have to be expensive and with some spices, it can be very good. A little research on the web will tell you how it's done.
i'll scratch your ears, that's good info.
Fighter Flare flashlight, so good Dave has it in his “everyday carry.”
WTF is an everyday carry and wonder what (maybe married?) wifey and friends think of this?
Like, what a dork, or Dave is bs’g us? I think he is bs’g us.
It means something you carry every day, like a knife you keep in you pocket at all times. When someone says EDC they usually mean which pistol and holster they strap on every morning.
So you think Dave has this strapped to his leg in a holster then?
Rhetorical question with a hint of sarcasm mixed in.
I think you're just being unnecessarily sarcastic. Anyhow you don't at least keep a flashlight in you car at all times? That counts as EDC as well.
I have a flashlight in every car along with a basic first aid kit and a small bag with some protein bars and water. Along with that stuff I keep a water key in each car as well. A water key allows you to turn on water outlets or hose bibs if there is no handle on the top.
I carry an Olight Baton III (up to 1000 lumens USB rechargeable with magnetic recharger) in my pocket every single day. I also carry a folding pocket knife. I also have first aid kits in both vehicles with clotting powder and canned water for emergencies. It's not crazy to be prepared. I actually feel "wrong" without my flashlight and pocket knife.
What do you suggest for battery backup power?
I'd not want to recommend any because of where they are made... the 4Patriots includes a lot of stuff that you may not ever use. There's a fellow on YouTube who has done a lot of testing... The trouble with these are that they can't power things that suck a lot of juice for very long. Anything that heats up or cools off sucks power up fast.
The name brands seem to test out pretty good according to the YouTube fellow.
These people sell this stuff because they push fear. MAD MAX IS COMING HOW WILL YOU SURVIVE?? Then they tell you they have the only solution. A bunch of batteries with a 100 watt solar panel. They sell you a 1 DAY solution for a few appliances, then you need all day of sun to recharge the batteries. For a one day solution, if you absolutely must have power, then get a small generator, and plug in a few appliances. If you've ever gone camping, then you can easily get by for longer. Keep the fridge/freezer closed and food will last days.
Only problem with a generator is they need fuel to run ,either petrol or gas so if supply is a problem then you’re still going to be without power. I’m on a stand alone solar power system entirely off grid. It is a fairly big system though and does run two households. A small solar setup is probably the way to go with a genset backup.
My last house, which was in a rural area, we had a 250 gal propane tank, and a 10K gal water tank. With a dual fuel generator we could hunker down for many months. The back up water pump was a 12v unit which could run for days on a 12v deep cycle battery. A small solar panel would keep it charged. When we had power outages, which were frequent due to SoCal Edison shutting of the power when the wind would blow, we would run the generator for short times so the freezer and refrigerator would cool down again. If a person got a few manageable propane tanks, say 20 gal size, and a dual fuel generator, they could site tight for weeks if they were judicious in its use.
Yeah some people do find these small solar and batteries useful for small cabins where they just need to run lights and sometimes a small fridge while any heat comes from a wood stove.
Not if one has a dual fuel option for generator. Mine does gas and propane, and has an electric and pull start.
What I’m saying is IF you can’t get gas(petrol it’s called in Australia) or propane(gas) ,then how you going to run it ?
Oh I see now, I thought petro and gas meant the same thing.
Bit of confusion because we call certain things differently here. I will have to remember America calls fuel for cars etc gas :)
Okay and who is this fellow?