I ask because I have a family member who is starting to have heart issues and was pretty healthy before Covid. He was given the antibodies while battling ‘Covid’ but he did not receive the vax. Just wondering what you all think… if it’s coincidence or related?
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I’m not too concerned, and here’s why (full disclosure - I received monoclonal antibodies for a “covid” infection last November)
Remember when they started restricting monoclonals? In many states, you could only get them if you were non-white, and only if you were vaxxed.
Additionally, Biden tried to punish Florida last year by refusing to ship any to Florida until Florida got in lockstep with the feds.
I don’t think they would withhold or play politics with a fake cure, only a real one. The requirement to be vaxxed in order to get them smacks of, “we’ll save your life, but only if you take our poison vaccine”.
Maybe I’m just being overly hopeful, but I’ve only had a couple minor colds since then, and no other issues.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted considering a big study came out a couple of weeks ago showing sotrovimab worked better than molnupiravir against omicron yet you still can’t use it anywhere for treatment
🤷🏻♂️ Someone disagrees with me, I guess.
I'd suspect c19 spike proteins first and how they damage the body before the Monoclonal Antibodies. MoAbs do have side effects, however. I found a list here. Although one side effect is low blood pressure, none mention the heart specifically.
Yes this does make sense. So the virus itself is probably to blame. Sort of like the vax side effects but definitely not as severe. It’s sad. I had to ask about the McAB’s, because I am not a big fan of injecting ANYTHING big pharma produces. Just wondered if others had any similar side effects heart related.
My personal opinion is that it is a legit treatment along with convalescent plasma. People in my family had both and recovered. I think the heart issues come from the spike protein in the virus and the vax. The amount in the virus could be a lot or a little depending on how much you are exposed to. The amount in the vax is more controlled but still as deadly for certain people. Not sure how much you get from it, but my opinion is any is too much. It may help some who have other health issues. I don't know. This is my opinion.
First: I don't disagree with you.
Second: I think it's potentially misleading to say "the vax is more controlled". I say that because wasn't it proven that the jabs contain billions of spike proteins, an amount far higher than any viral load you'd encounter from the virus itself? I could be mistaken, but this is what I remember reading. If so, "more controlled" just means better aimed to kill you.
It might be trillions in the initial dose. I found one comment that said "the number of mRNA molecules and that seemed to come out at around 11,800,000,000,000 per dose. And it programs the cells to make more." I was trying to compare it to the virus which could hit you with a little or a lot depending on exposure and if your body is ready to fight it off with either antibodies from a previous infection or with previous doses of things like zinc and quercetin and Vitamin D. But you are correct that it is at least in the billions. Just don't know how that compares to a bad virus dose. I would think less, but I'm no expert. Still not worth getting the vax unless you are in a high risk group imo.
I'm no expert, either, but the vax is no bueno -- absolutely. I consider it a death shot and wouldn't recommend it no matter how high risk a person is.
The worst part of this is, before the virus, I would've trusted my doctor's opinion (if I had one. lol). But now, I trust very few 'experts'.
Saaaaaame! Looking at natural remedy docs and Osteopaths now, like a kooky person 🤣. I use to travel a lot, too, so I always took international vaccine recommendations seriously. Now, I can't see myself ever getting one again. I deeply regret the ones I got, even though I wasn't seriously harmed (in the short term-- who knows, long term?)
I wouldn’t take a candy bar or a free tank of gas from Big Pharma
I wouldn't trust Big Pharma or doctors at this point.
Related, sort of.
Just a heads up about the monoclonal antibodies - they are being used in many medicines today, not just the Covid ones. Here is a list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_therapeutic_monoclonal_antibodies
Pay attention to drugs ending in “iamb”
Some of these mice are humanized with fetal tissue/fetal stem cells and it is not always easy to find out which ones. Here are some:
https://www.fetalindustry.com/post/aborted-baby-organs-used-to-humanize-mice-for-covid-19-vaccine-and-therapeutic-testing
—- While I cannot find direct evidence that the monoclonals used for Covid had fetal tissue, I can tell you Regeneron used fetal tissue in other experiments.
Here is an example https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497120336673
“ Transplantation of human hematopoietic progenitor cells into mice Fetal liver samples were obtained from the Human Fetal Tissue Repository at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY, and from Advanced Biosciences Resources, Alameda, CA.”
And under acknowledgments:
“The authors thank the Regeneron Pharmaceuticals' Velocigene team for generating human IL-6 knock-in mice; J. Alderman for managerial support; C. Weibel, E. Henchey, and P. Ranney for technical assistance; and C. Lieber for manuscript submission. This study was supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the National Institutes of Health, National Cancer Institute (R01 CA156689) (R.A.F.), and the American Diabetes Association Research Foundation Mentorship Fellowship (H.Y.). R.A.F is an Investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.”
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While this is not a direct link, it tells me enough to be concerned about taking any medicine created by Regeneron, and to be very leery of any medicine made with “humanized mice” unless I know without a shadow of a doubt these mice were not made with fetal parts.
Just my .02, take it for what it’s worth.
Maybe introducing the antibodies triggers something similar to the vax? As I understand it- my 30 second version of how the mRNA Covid vax works:
-You get a temporary boost in Covid antibodies (that only work against covid)
-In return, your T-cells are destroyed (a main line defense against ALL disease- not just Covid).
It's the worst long term trade of all time from what I can tell.
My sister in laws close friend is having seizures and can barely walk. She only had a mild reaction with Covid but because she’s autoimmune her doctor sent her for the antibodies
The average half-life for the MoABs is around 50 days, if memory serves when I got them. After around 50 days, your liver supposedly clears them out of your system.
If your family member had other health issues that made them eligible for MoABs, it may not be the MoABs but your relative’s health getting impacted by COVID or even the chaotic stress of the current world.
All the best to you all. Heart issues are no joke; hope they start feeling better quickly.