Not a fan of this guy overall, he doesn’t come across as genuine or organic. To me he seems like either a good or bad fed. Photo op with pelosi’s son in law that day too, could be taken as a good thing or bad thing as well.
Pretty sure there were some azov faggotry at J6 and he was with them as well
Chansley was described by the prosecution as "the public face of the Capitol riot." He stood out from the rioters who stormed the Capitol, shirtless with a horned headdress at the dais where Vice President Mike Pence had been presiding at the certification of the 2020 election.
I'm glad he will be at a minimum security prison at least.
He did his role well. He was there to draw the cameras to him and to be the face of the insurrection. A well-mannered, well behaved guy who didn't hurt anybody or damage any property.
I remember that evening, when he was livestreaming his conversation with the feds on the phone on his way home. And the comments by his sister. And I looked into his visits to various events before 1/6.
My impression was that he was a kind of a friendly happy guy. Nothing like Antifa or any of the normal malcontents who hate us. I also thought he was very intelligent and articulate.
In the end, I decided he was an operator. He had a specific mission and that was to become the face of the event for the press to focus on. At the same time he was cheerful and non-violent.
He also is having to do real prison time while Ray Epps hasn't had any consequences whatsoever. This despite video of Epps directing the people to attack the capital and all sorts of sketchy stuff.
If Chansley is a bad guy, why are they prosecuting him, and not Ray Epps?
But we don't have to agree. I understand why people think Chansley was a plant to make us look like wackos.
Just going off my own intiuition and observations of that event, it all seemed way to staged. I agree he is an operator, which side is anyone's guess.
I tend to follow three rules when dealing with any information or scenario:
Pay attention to your surroundings (observe)
Trust no one. Period. This does not apply to faith.
Question everything.
To answer your question of why prosecute him and not Epps, the answer is simple. Optics. I believe shammy's role was to always be in the camera. Both during and post J6.
Which leads me to your last sentence. Yes, I believe his role is to paint a broad picture of anons for the normie MSM zombies.
If Chansley's role was to paint anons as violent extremists, wouldn't he have at least had verbal confrontations with the capitol police and encouraged people to misbehave like Ray Epps did?
Chansley instead just appeared to be an amiable goofball.
I never said his role was to paint us as violent. The propaganda machine already does that.
His role (assuming) was to make us look absolutely crazy and to rabble rouse while at the J6 event.
Just because he didn't do a Braveheart Freeeeeedom! scream and storm the bldg does not mean he did not lead gullible folks and unknown bad actors inside. He was to be used as a figure head, both during and after J6 because as anons, we have no face to our movement. The enemy needed an identity to attach for the cameras.
Well, we can agree to disagree on this. I think Chansley is a good guy operator and he did his job well. You think he was a bad guy operator and did his job well.
Agreed. Like many other aspects of happenings the past several years.
Also to consider, is that it may be completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Overshadowed by much more significant future occurrences down the road. Often times anons find themselves obsessing over one dig or another and truly, even if it carries relevance to "XYZ..." it won't matter say, when the momentum shifts. Shit, the past several weeks are exemplary of that. We've had so many wins, happenings, comms, FF, etc.... It's rather easy to forget or dismiss the past. Which is not wise of course, but this train has no brakes. Just keeps chugging along with more and more anons in tow as time flows on.
I remember there was this entire narrative where he hid cameras in his horns and was actually working on recording antifa. What ever happened to that? Like his 'sister' had a twitter account dedicated to it.
Not a fan of this guy overall, he doesn’t come across as genuine or organic. To me he seems like either a good or bad fed. Photo op with pelosi’s son in law that day too, could be taken as a good thing or bad thing as well. Pretty sure there were some azov faggotry at J6 and he was with them as well
Very good observations. I tend to agree, he's a plant to give the MSM audience a persona to apply to anons.
Let's not forget he associates with known bad actors like Austin Steinlarp & the other PAYtriot streamers he did photobomb sessions with on J6.
I trust none of them.
useful idiot is no longer useful.
I'm glad he will be at a minimum security prison at least.
He did his role well. He was there to draw the cameras to him and to be the face of the insurrection. A well-mannered, well behaved guy who didn't hurt anybody or damage any property.
I disagree. I don't think he was ever on our side.
Yes, people have different ideas about Chansley.
I remember that evening, when he was livestreaming his conversation with the feds on the phone on his way home. And the comments by his sister. And I looked into his visits to various events before 1/6.
My impression was that he was a kind of a friendly happy guy. Nothing like Antifa or any of the normal malcontents who hate us. I also thought he was very intelligent and articulate.
In the end, I decided he was an operator. He had a specific mission and that was to become the face of the event for the press to focus on. At the same time he was cheerful and non-violent.
He also is having to do real prison time while Ray Epps hasn't had any consequences whatsoever. This despite video of Epps directing the people to attack the capital and all sorts of sketchy stuff.
If Chansley is a bad guy, why are they prosecuting him, and not Ray Epps?
But we don't have to agree. I understand why people think Chansley was a plant to make us look like wackos.
Agreed to agree but disagree.
Just going off my own intiuition and observations of that event, it all seemed way to staged. I agree he is an operator, which side is anyone's guess.
I tend to follow three rules when dealing with any information or scenario:
To answer your question of why prosecute him and not Epps, the answer is simple. Optics. I believe shammy's role was to always be in the camera. Both during and post J6.
Which leads me to your last sentence. Yes, I believe his role is to paint a broad picture of anons for the normie MSM zombies.
If Chansley's role was to paint anons as violent extremists, wouldn't he have at least had verbal confrontations with the capitol police and encouraged people to misbehave like Ray Epps did?
Chansley instead just appeared to be an amiable goofball.
I never said his role was to paint us as violent. The propaganda machine already does that.
His role (assuming) was to make us look absolutely crazy and to rabble rouse while at the J6 event.
Just because he didn't do a Braveheart Freeeeeedom! scream and storm the bldg does not mean he did not lead gullible folks and unknown bad actors inside. He was to be used as a figure head, both during and after J6 because as anons, we have no face to our movement. The enemy needed an identity to attach for the cameras.
Well, we can agree to disagree on this. I think Chansley is a good guy operator and he did his job well. You think he was a bad guy operator and did his job well.
I'm not sure we will ever know the answer.
"I'm not sure we'll ever know the answer"
Agreed. Like many other aspects of happenings the past several years.
Also to consider, is that it may be completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Overshadowed by much more significant future occurrences down the road. Often times anons find themselves obsessing over one dig or another and truly, even if it carries relevance to "XYZ..." it won't matter say, when the momentum shifts. Shit, the past several weeks are exemplary of that. We've had so many wins, happenings, comms, FF, etc.... It's rather easy to forget or dismiss the past. Which is not wise of course, but this train has no brakes. Just keeps chugging along with more and more anons in tow as time flows on.
He is sitting in jail, though. That's a big sign, I think.
Useful idiot.
I remember there was this entire narrative where he hid cameras in his horns and was actually working on recording antifa. What ever happened to that? Like his 'sister' had a twitter account dedicated to it.