Why argue over flat Earth? Why not just prove what people say are false? Leave FE out of the equation. Prove the curvature etc. Because we don't know, we can't prove. Use topics of discussion like gravity, distance etc to prove points. Show true pictures of the planets and how they cgi them up. Look for pictures of Australia see if everyone is upside down lol.
This is the problem. Anytime someone tries to independently measure curvature or report their actual data they either get attacked or murdered. There is a huge lie being covered.
A little geometric knowledge would be helpful. There is "curvature" even if you are on an LP record, so unless you know what you are measuring and why, it would tell you nothing.
More to the point is cartography, and the fact that it is not possible to make a continuous map of the Earth unless it is on a spherical surface. All attempts to piece together large flat maps result in boundaries that do not align.
Or just give it up as a lost cause. Centuries of science and exploration has proven the Earth to be "spherical" to a high degree. There are no inexplicable features. And Australia is not upside down (of course).
Please explain why a satellite photograph would not show a picture on its side or upside down. I struggle with the concept that we are spinning at 1000mph+, Elipses Orbiting at 67000 mph and hurtling through space at 500, 000 mph. All the planets moons etc keeping near perfect time with us. Of course I also wonder why if the sun is 90+ million miles away, temp is 10,000f (BTW a plasma metal cutter is 40,000f) traveling through Negative 430f tempature, the rays warm/radiate/Planck through uv/molecular heat the earth. I wonder why you can see Chicago across lake MI. 53 or so miles away. Should be on the other side of the curve. I am not saying the world is flat, round. Or Taco shaped. I am saying they lie and they don't know either.
You haven't looked at enough satellite images, for one thing. Struggle all you want. Why are you struggling? The rotation is a tiny rate. Figure it out for yourself, instead of struggling in dumb wonder. We have no capability to sense speed, as anyone can realize by flying in a jet airplane at 600+ mph. Not so far from 1000 mph, right?
For most of your other questions, read a textbook on astronomy. (Space has no temperature, by the way.)
As for Chicago across the lake, that is an effect of atmospheric refraction. It is a general effect, but can be stronger when there is a temperature distribution cold at the surface, warming with height, as might be true of water over a lake.
Read the encylopedia. Obtain some learning! It is not all lies. "They" (whoever they are) are not everywhere, pen in hand, writing everything. We knew all about the Earth and Moon before there was ever a NASA. The only thing that NASA contributed was passage to the Moon and the opportunity to make better measurements.
If you don't know any truth, you are simply lost---by your own choice.
I'm trying to be civil and kind. 1. Is not true due to the fact that a flight on an airplane 1hr east and west (without head/tailwind produces the same distance. 2. Temp: According to the people who mislead you space has a temp of approx -450 degrees f. https://www.space.com/14719-spacekids-temperature-outer-space.html
3. Chicago: that lie has been debunked because refractions hold fast to the visual horizon they sit upon. Think mirage on a desert sand. Also I can show you testing (if you wish) of a laser beam traveling miles across a flat lake, this being impossible as laser shoot straight. You say it's not all lies. I won't put words in your mouth. Nasa gets approx 68 million a day. That money means alot to them and possibly others. I wish you peace, and apologize if I have offended you, and ask you forgiveness. https://youtu.be/qniCs03t3GM
Why argue over flat Earth? Why not just prove what people say are false? Leave FE out of the equation. Prove the curvature etc. Because we don't know, we can't prove. Use topics of discussion like gravity, distance etc to prove points. Show true pictures of the planets and how they cgi them up. Look for pictures of Australia see if everyone is upside down lol.
This is the problem. Anytime someone tries to independently measure curvature or report their actual data they either get attacked or murdered. There is a huge lie being covered.
A little geometric knowledge would be helpful. There is "curvature" even if you are on an LP record, so unless you know what you are measuring and why, it would tell you nothing.
More to the point is cartography, and the fact that it is not possible to make a continuous map of the Earth unless it is on a spherical surface. All attempts to piece together large flat maps result in boundaries that do not align.
You prove the curvature by observing the curvature.
Or just give it up as a lost cause. Centuries of science and exploration has proven the Earth to be "spherical" to a high degree. There are no inexplicable features. And Australia is not upside down (of course).
Please explain why a satellite photograph would not show a picture on its side or upside down. I struggle with the concept that we are spinning at 1000mph+, Elipses Orbiting at 67000 mph and hurtling through space at 500, 000 mph. All the planets moons etc keeping near perfect time with us. Of course I also wonder why if the sun is 90+ million miles away, temp is 10,000f (BTW a plasma metal cutter is 40,000f) traveling through Negative 430f tempature, the rays warm/radiate/Planck through uv/molecular heat the earth. I wonder why you can see Chicago across lake MI. 53 or so miles away. Should be on the other side of the curve. I am not saying the world is flat, round. Or Taco shaped. I am saying they lie and they don't know either.
You haven't looked at enough satellite images, for one thing. Struggle all you want. Why are you struggling? The rotation is a tiny rate. Figure it out for yourself, instead of struggling in dumb wonder. We have no capability to sense speed, as anyone can realize by flying in a jet airplane at 600+ mph. Not so far from 1000 mph, right?
For most of your other questions, read a textbook on astronomy. (Space has no temperature, by the way.)
As for Chicago across the lake, that is an effect of atmospheric refraction. It is a general effect, but can be stronger when there is a temperature distribution cold at the surface, warming with height, as might be true of water over a lake.
Read the encylopedia. Obtain some learning! It is not all lies. "They" (whoever they are) are not everywhere, pen in hand, writing everything. We knew all about the Earth and Moon before there was ever a NASA. The only thing that NASA contributed was passage to the Moon and the opportunity to make better measurements.
If you don't know any truth, you are simply lost---by your own choice.
I'm trying to be civil and kind. 1. Is not true due to the fact that a flight on an airplane 1hr east and west (without head/tailwind produces the same distance. 2. Temp: According to the people who mislead you space has a temp of approx -450 degrees f. https://www.space.com/14719-spacekids-temperature-outer-space.html 3. Chicago: that lie has been debunked because refractions hold fast to the visual horizon they sit upon. Think mirage on a desert sand. Also I can show you testing (if you wish) of a laser beam traveling miles across a flat lake, this being impossible as laser shoot straight. You say it's not all lies. I won't put words in your mouth. Nasa gets approx 68 million a day. That money means alot to them and possibly others. I wish you peace, and apologize if I have offended you, and ask you forgiveness. https://youtu.be/qniCs03t3GM