My comment, however, was that if the title was rephased in the way I indicated, it would negate the idea of using authority to guide thought, and clarify the message, IF indeed that was the intent.
Honestly, I kinda just don't really think mods should be stickying their opinions at all. I mean, they should absolutely give their opinion, but putting it out there, and then using their authoritative power to promote it is at best poor form imo.
Nevertheless, I agree that framing it as an opinion as you suggest is a "lesser evil" as such things go. Having said that, I've still seen some serious fuckery in my investigations of exactly that sort of behavior.
It's just not a good idea at all to use authority to push opinion. Until people learn what propaganda is (rhetoric to guide belief, especially from an authority) and learn how to appreciate such rhetoric (which we aren't really taught in school), I think it's essential that we take extra special care to avoid it as much as possible. Or maybe not get mad at people who call it out. :)
(A personal request, though really, I can take it.)
I think under different circumstances, the board could be structured and operated in a different (better?) way.
As things are, there is a certain amount of editorializing by our mod team. Some are better, or worse, than others.
I think it's at acceptable levels; this is not just another random board. We are, at this point, a connected community, and trust between pedes, including mods, is a relatively robust commodity here.
Having said that, I think your point is a good one, and I think your stance (Until people learn what propaganda is.... I think it's essential that we take extra special care to avoid it as much as possible) is pertinent and important.
In reflection, it seems there is room to think that Brent was not actually saying "it wasn't planned" but rather sardonically and sarcastically was commenting that "Sure. It wasn't planned".
Anyway, you called the post out, he received the feedback, reposted, differently. Don't know who got mad at you for calling it out...?
In any case, both he and you have indicated he/you "can take it". Seems like things are working OK.
As we cooperate and support the board servants we call mods, it's also important, in fact critical, that their positions do not fall into abuse (of authority), even if it is well-intentioned or unintentional. In that sense, I take the stance that the board community are in fact the real owners of the board, and the mods, while having a difficult and often thankless job, are here to make things work, while we are here to ensure that the mods work, properly.
With apologies for the lengthy and loquacious commentary, in case it wasn't clear: I think you made a good call. Please don't construe my comments to be an indication of opposition to your thinking.
Congresswoman Warloski Killed in Car Accident. (I Don't Believe It Was Planned)
..... is what the title should have been, if opinion is included.
Nothing I said was about a person putting their opinion forward. My statement was about using authority to guide thought.
Indeed.
My comment, however, was that if the title was rephased in the way I indicated, it would negate the idea of using authority to guide thought, and clarify the message, IF indeed that was the intent.
Honestly, I kinda just don't really think mods should be stickying their opinions at all. I mean, they should absolutely give their opinion, but putting it out there, and then using their authoritative power to promote it is at best poor form imo.
Nevertheless, I agree that framing it as an opinion as you suggest is a "lesser evil" as such things go. Having said that, I've still seen some serious fuckery in my investigations of exactly that sort of behavior.
It's just not a good idea at all to use authority to push opinion. Until people learn what propaganda is (rhetoric to guide belief, especially from an authority) and learn how to appreciate such rhetoric (which we aren't really taught in school), I think it's essential that we take extra special care to avoid it as much as possible. Or maybe not get mad at people who call it out. :)
(A personal request, though really, I can take it.)
Really good points.
I think under different circumstances, the board could be structured and operated in a different (better?) way.
As things are, there is a certain amount of editorializing by our mod team. Some are better, or worse, than others.
I think it's at acceptable levels; this is not just another random board. We are, at this point, a connected community, and trust between pedes, including mods, is a relatively robust commodity here.
Having said that, I think your point is a good one, and I think your stance (Until people learn what propaganda is.... I think it's essential that we take extra special care to avoid it as much as possible) is pertinent and important.
In reflection, it seems there is room to think that Brent was not actually saying "it wasn't planned" but rather sardonically and sarcastically was commenting that "Sure. It wasn't planned".
Anyway, you called the post out, he received the feedback, reposted, differently. Don't know who got mad at you for calling it out...?
In any case, both he and you have indicated he/you "can take it". Seems like things are working OK.
As we cooperate and support the board servants we call mods, it's also important, in fact critical, that their positions do not fall into abuse (of authority), even if it is well-intentioned or unintentional. In that sense, I take the stance that the board community are in fact the real owners of the board, and the mods, while having a difficult and often thankless job, are here to make things work, while we are here to ensure that the mods work, properly.
With apologies for the lengthy and loquacious commentary, in case it wasn't clear: I think you made a good call. Please don't construe my comments to be an indication of opposition to your thinking.