Making statements that "No, It Was Not Planned" is a statement of opinion without supporting evidence. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but you seem to be, with your sticky power, attempting to set people's minds on a specific line of thinking, rather than adding your own opinion as your own opinion, and trying to support that opinion with meaningful evidence.
This is how propaganda works. You get an "authority" to make an "official announcement" and it sets thinking along a certain line.
If things are allowed to be organic however, people will investigate, they will present their evidence, and they will come to their own conclusions. No Ministry of Truth required.
And the reasoning as to why it was an accident are easily debated when highly accurate, military grade real-time gps tracking is likely accessable by deep state intelligence agents either foreign (mossad?) or domestic. Allowing them to pinpoint the vehicle, making a high speed car accident possible.
It’s not what he said, it’s how it was said. No analysis or anything just a spoon-fed conclusion..
I don’t see this as propaganda, but this is certainly a pretty shitty post that should not be stickied without an analysis of how the conclusion was reached.
No offense u/Brent75 - I assume your intentions were good here.
I said “don’t assume” up there as I knew this is exactly what may happen and I was just trying hold the What-Ifs back. Yes I was doing this with good intentions but of course no good deed goes unpunished. Oh well. Can’t win um all.
I took it as a warning, not to jump to conclusions, which I, personally, appreciated. I’m going to act holier than you, and him, and say that I will listen to differing opinions, and try to look at it as objectively as possible, and come to my own conclusion, as I would hope that most of us here are doing by now. Checkmate, faggots.
Chill. I think they might have been joking or being sarcastic or even just giving an assessment of facts,when they say that. Dont be so quick to attack my friend.
This is how propaganda works. We have been so trained to listen to propaganda, we refuse to see it, and we excuse it all the time. It must be understood to be transcended.
And thinking they "might have been joking" is an assumption without any supporting evidence, on the contrary, the rhetoric in the rest of the post corroborates the assumption that they were not joking.
I disagree with your assessment. They said right in there comment to not assume. Sorry but I dont agree. People are so quick to attack the mods over trivial things when they flat out said Please don’t assume it was Cabal planned
Guess what, the first thing I thought when I saw this title , Was she not killed? I don’t know but I have the feeling she was murdered because we have the primaries now and she is a Republican and truth social people are talking about it specially those people who live in Illinois. I don’t like the idea of criticizing but Demoncrats always planned everything.
I'm not attacking the mod, I'm pointing out propaganda. We are so used to it we do it, and don't realize we are doing it. I'm not suggesting it was done with nefarious intent, but that doesn't mean it wasn't done. We have been trained to both listen to it and to use it in our rhetoric. We do it all the fucking time.
I am pointing it out because I see it. It is not an attack, it is pointing out how we are led by the nose through propaganda down certain lines of thought. Making a clear statement of "No, it was not planned" is using rhetoric to steer belief in a specific direction, regardless of intent.
If this wasn't done with a sticky, in big bright red letters, put on the front page for as long as the poster wants, I wouldn't have called it out. When people with Authority abuse that power, even if not intentionally, it guides belief. Guiding belief with rhetoric is the definition of propaganda, intentional or not.
Some of us have faith in you and see the good work u do. It's a tough job and easy to just sit back and say how your doing this this and this wrong. Keep up the good work fren. Your in my prayers
There are some subtle jabs at the mods in there words. I dont base my thoughts on upvoted and popularity. I base them on how I see them. I dont see anything wrong with the OP. The way he worded is sews division between mods and ANONS. That's all I'm saying. Take it how u want it. I said what I felt I needed to say. God bless u. Love u
If you feel the mods arent doing things right it's always best to reach out in mod mail and state your thoughts, rather than publicly say things and bring up there sticky power and call them Ministry of truth. It's a tough job.
GAW has been having a problem lately of people coming to their own conclusions THEN cherry picking their research to support those conclusions.
All he said is don't assume. It is highly unlikely this is a deep state murder. These kind of car accidents happen all the time and she was not a very high profile politician.
If it was a DS murder it needs to be supported with good evidence.
My comment, however, was that if the title was rephased in the way I indicated, it would negate the idea of using authority to guide thought, and clarify the message, IF indeed that was the intent.
Honestly, I kinda just don't really think mods should be stickying their opinions at all. I mean, they should absolutely give their opinion, but putting it out there, and then using their authoritative power to promote it is at best poor form imo.
Nevertheless, I agree that framing it as an opinion as you suggest is a "lesser evil" as such things go. Having said that, I've still seen some serious fuckery in my investigations of exactly that sort of behavior.
It's just not a good idea at all to use authority to push opinion. Until people learn what propaganda is (rhetoric to guide belief, especially from an authority) and learn how to appreciate such rhetoric (which we aren't really taught in school), I think it's essential that we take extra special care to avoid it as much as possible. Or maybe not get mad at people who call it out. :)
(A personal request, though really, I can take it.)
I’m stating what I did because due to flow of highway traffic and spent 15 years working with law enforcement. To plan a direct and perfect target head on collision on a flowing highway unless it’s a movie set is like 1-10,000 chance to get it correct. And this accident surly does not looked planned nor as fishy as the Uvalde School Shooting. I’m pretty sure by all current reports this was an actual car accident. And I’m admitting now I could be wrong down the road. But all current reports show this was a regular flowing road and traffic, not a movie set.
The “reports” were written to manipulate us into making exactly that conclusion. There’s no reason to trust them any more than the MSM. The fact that it said “accident” makes me all the more sure it wasn’t.
Dude accidentally happen every day. Car wrecks are around 60k deaths per year and top 10 cause. I'm not saying it isnt cabal but truly every death being cabal is insane. Real accidents happen daily to average and wealthy people everywhere. We are jaded but it doesn't mean accidents don't exist and if it was cabal likely the other party would live or there would be no other party (aka kinetic weapon)...also of all the people to attack she would not be anywhere near the top. If we assume they can kill people in accidents this easily we have to assume DJT and others would be did...AKA it's not all a conspiracy.
I don’t trust MSM that’s why it’s a RSB article report. Also it’s not difficult to listen to police scanners if you have the ability, and have the right law enforcement friends.
it would do well of all of us to remember that this place is full of anons on a regular basis, and that that sets a certain bar on conclusions and the general debate.
while i respect what you do, and the time you put in, your tone and your level of respect for people here just fukking suck today. i will assume that is not ordinarily the case and hope for the best.
Making statements that "No, It Was Not Planned" is a statement of opinion without supporting evidence. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but you seem to be, with your sticky power, attempting to set people's minds on a specific line of thinking, rather than adding your own opinion as your own opinion, and trying to support that opinion with meaningful evidence.
This is how propaganda works. You get an "authority" to make an "official announcement" and it sets thinking along a certain line.
If things are allowed to be organic however, people will investigate, they will present their evidence, and they will come to their own conclusions. No Ministry of Truth required.
👏🏻 Thank you so much.
And the reasoning as to why it was an accident are easily debated when highly accurate, military grade real-time gps tracking is likely accessable by deep state intelligence agents either foreign (mossad?) or domestic. Allowing them to pinpoint the vehicle, making a high speed car accident possible.
It’s not what he said, it’s how it was said. No analysis or anything just a spoon-fed conclusion..
I don’t see this as propaganda, but this is certainly a pretty shitty post that should not be stickied without an analysis of how the conclusion was reached.
No offense u/Brent75 - I assume your intentions were good here.
I said “don’t assume” up there as I knew this is exactly what may happen and I was just trying hold the What-Ifs back. Yes I was doing this with good intentions but of course no good deed goes unpunished. Oh well. Can’t win um all.
I took it as a warning, not to jump to conclusions, which I, personally, appreciated. I’m going to act holier than you, and him, and say that I will listen to differing opinions, and try to look at it as objectively as possible, and come to my own conclusion, as I would hope that most of us here are doing by now. Checkmate, faggots.
Great response fren. Someone is atleast paying attention and using the skills we have gathered here.
Though useless to them, Thanks Roy. It’s appreciated.
Your title says “no it was not planned”.
To kill a mocking bird.
Chill. I think they might have been joking or being sarcastic or even just giving an assessment of facts,when they say that. Dont be so quick to attack my friend.
This is how propaganda works. We have been so trained to listen to propaganda, we refuse to see it, and we excuse it all the time. It must be understood to be transcended.
And thinking they "might have been joking" is an assumption without any supporting evidence, on the contrary, the rhetoric in the rest of the post corroborates the assumption that they were not joking.
I disagree with your assessment. They said right in there comment to not assume. Sorry but I dont agree. People are so quick to attack the mods over trivial things when they flat out said Please don’t assume it was Cabal planned
Guess what, the first thing I thought when I saw this title , Was she not killed? I don’t know but I have the feeling she was murdered because we have the primaries now and she is a Republican and truth social people are talking about it specially those people who live in Illinois. I don’t like the idea of criticizing but Demoncrats always planned everything.
I'm not attacking the mod, I'm pointing out propaganda. We are so used to it we do it, and don't realize we are doing it. I'm not suggesting it was done with nefarious intent, but that doesn't mean it wasn't done. We have been trained to both listen to it and to use it in our rhetoric. We do it all the fucking time.
I am pointing it out because I see it. It is not an attack, it is pointing out how we are led by the nose through propaganda down certain lines of thought. Making a clear statement of "No, it was not planned" is using rhetoric to steer belief in a specific direction, regardless of intent.
If this wasn't done with a sticky, in big bright red letters, put on the front page for as long as the poster wants, I wouldn't have called it out. When people with Authority abuse that power, even if not intentionally, it guides belief. Guiding belief with rhetoric is the definition of propaganda, intentional or not.
Hey, and thanks for having faith in us Mods Slyver. Speaking of propaganda, your statement is exactly how division is sewn.
Some of us have faith in you and see the good work u do. It's a tough job and easy to just sit back and say how your doing this this and this wrong. Keep up the good work fren. Your in my prayers
Slyver, I sincerely regret stickying your opinion yesterday.
How wasnt that abusing stickys then?
(Please dont fucking answer that.)
If they were joking they wouldn't have reiterated it in the comment.
They didn't re iterate it they said please dont assume it was. Meaning they are encouraging us to dig
They are trying to steer us to a conclusion. [Propaganda]
Sounded like a well reasoned rebuttal. Not an attack. And by the upvotes of Slyver’s comments…seems most agree with him.
There are some subtle jabs at the mods in there words. I dont base my thoughts on upvoted and popularity. I base them on how I see them. I dont see anything wrong with the OP. The way he worded is sews division between mods and ANONS. That's all I'm saying. Take it how u want it. I said what I felt I needed to say. God bless u. Love u
If you feel the mods arent doing things right it's always best to reach out in mod mail and state your thoughts, rather than publicly say things and bring up there sticky power and call them Ministry of truth. It's a tough job.
Didn’t say you did. My point was that most agreed with his thots and don’t see Slyvers comments as wrong or divisive or bashing a mod.
His well articulated points are exactly what Q has trained us to do. Question everything.
Or did you forget that part?
Discernment, trying to get ahead of a narrative. SET NARRATIVE, and label a head on collision an accident.
Well said.
Please provide any evidence it WAS planned.
GAW has been having a problem lately of people coming to their own conclusions THEN cherry picking their research to support those conclusions.
All he said is don't assume. It is highly unlikely this is a deep state murder. These kind of car accidents happen all the time and she was not a very high profile politician.
If it was a DS murder it needs to be supported with good evidence.
Congresswoman Warloski Killed in Car Accident. (I Don't Believe It Was Planned)
..... is what the title should have been, if opinion is included.
Nothing I said was about a person putting their opinion forward. My statement was about using authority to guide thought.
Indeed.
My comment, however, was that if the title was rephased in the way I indicated, it would negate the idea of using authority to guide thought, and clarify the message, IF indeed that was the intent.
Honestly, I kinda just don't really think mods should be stickying their opinions at all. I mean, they should absolutely give their opinion, but putting it out there, and then using their authoritative power to promote it is at best poor form imo.
Nevertheless, I agree that framing it as an opinion as you suggest is a "lesser evil" as such things go. Having said that, I've still seen some serious fuckery in my investigations of exactly that sort of behavior.
It's just not a good idea at all to use authority to push opinion. Until people learn what propaganda is (rhetoric to guide belief, especially from an authority) and learn how to appreciate such rhetoric (which we aren't really taught in school), I think it's essential that we take extra special care to avoid it as much as possible. Or maybe not get mad at people who call it out. :)
(A personal request, though really, I can take it.)
I’m stating what I did because due to flow of highway traffic and spent 15 years working with law enforcement. To plan a direct and perfect target head on collision on a flowing highway unless it’s a movie set is like 1-10,000 chance to get it correct. And this accident surly does not looked planned nor as fishy as the Uvalde School Shooting. I’m pretty sure by all current reports this was an actual car accident. And I’m admitting now I could be wrong down the road. But all current reports show this was a regular flowing road and traffic, not a movie set.
The “reports” were written to manipulate us into making exactly that conclusion. There’s no reason to trust them any more than the MSM. The fact that it said “accident” makes me all the more sure it wasn’t.
This is different than striking a kid with a missile
Dude accidentally happen every day. Car wrecks are around 60k deaths per year and top 10 cause. I'm not saying it isnt cabal but truly every death being cabal is insane. Real accidents happen daily to average and wealthy people everywhere. We are jaded but it doesn't mean accidents don't exist and if it was cabal likely the other party would live or there would be no other party (aka kinetic weapon)...also of all the people to attack she would not be anywhere near the top. If we assume they can kill people in accidents this easily we have to assume DJT and others would be did...AKA it's not all a conspiracy.
I don’t trust MSM that’s why it’s a RSB article report. Also it’s not difficult to listen to police scanners if you have the ability, and have the right law enforcement friends.
We live in a time when drone strikes can take out Al-Qaeda leaders, and geo-location tracking is down to the exact coordinates of the person.
Q specifically mentions things like this in terms of that train « collision with a construction truck . »
This was a targeted kill. Trump put out 5:5 yesterday.
We are at war. There are no coincidences or accidents at this level.
and?
you are still making a judgement call that is possibly unwarranted.
excuse the lot of us if we just don't take your word for it and are waiting for some real SAUCE.
By all means go research then your highness. I shall bow as I leave the room for fucks sake.
let's simplify.
it would do well of all of us to remember that this place is full of anons on a regular basis, and that that sets a certain bar on conclusions and the general debate.
while i respect what you do, and the time you put in, your tone and your level of respect for people here just fukking suck today. i will assume that is not ordinarily the case and hope for the best.
RSB is pretty true with their reporting along with listening to Arizona police scanners. I wish I could type fast enough and post those here.
Front tail and a suicidial tweaker with a radio... definitely doable.
Haha that’s terrible.
cause you think you are authority? Princess Dianna laughs at your ignorant assumption that you try to sway my thinking. wrong forum bubs