Yestday's stickied mod post about the queers is the second time this has happened on this board, so I feel this has to be said. We CANNOT keep pretending like it's "ok" to be any flavor of the rainbow brigade.
Homosexuality and all it's derivatives are morally, socially, and naturally degenerate. Get over it.
We all said years ago that if it was allowed to be openly accepted and legalized they'd eventually come for the children and animals. And look at where we are now.
People demanding open acceptance of "MAPS" and zoophilia "pride" parades in Germany.
I'm not saying that there is no such thing as a conservative gay, that's stupid since they obviously exist. But we cannot allow open acceptance for this kind of thing in the public square. What people do in private is between them and God, but open advertisement and propagation of transsexualism and homosexuality have to become a thing of the past if we're to avoid the level of moral degeneracy we're faced with today in the future.
Furthermore, It seems a lot of people like to conveniently overlook that at it's base, our entire movement is essentially a Christian Nationalist movement where we want ALL nations to turn back to God and become (Insert Nation Name) first. To take care of their own citizens before worrying about everyone else on the planet.
Why do you think Q talks about God and Christian themes, etc. so often in the drops? Why do you think so many of our sides leadership are more or less Christian Nationalists? Trump, Desantis, Orban, and even Putin if you want to count him, all have varying levels of Christian Nationalism in their message. And most of them are pushing that more and more as time goes on.
And I know I'm probably gonna anger some on here, but I don't care anymore. This crap has gone on long enough, and people need to get over themselves. We're not calling for some kind of gay concentration camps. All most of us want is something similiar to what most Slavic Nations have going on, where it's illegal and a felony to advertise homosexuality, transsexualism, etc. in any way, shape, form, or fashion, and public displays of such things are also banned.
And don't even give me the whole "muh free speech" bit. There are just some things that NEED to be banned for the good of society. This is one of them. If you disagree, well then I'm sorry but you're just wrong. This crap HAS to stop if we're to move on and better ourselves as a society.
I didn’t say you don’t understand. I’m saying your making assumptions based on a limited perspective.
I’m saying you assume my reality from another. You assume your reality and what you have contrived in your head, based on information you have been fed or consumed that as we now know has been manipulated and biased, is the perspective of life.
Your addict comparison is crap. If you want to know why a nascar driver needs to go fast you don’t go to a plumber you go to Dale Earnheart Sr.
See we can make analogies all day but Let me share some perspective.
I was raised by Christian’s from a Christian family. I started pre-k in a Christian private school. In kindergarten or first grade I had my first school crush or attraction. His name was Bobby.
Now at this age I have never seen porn. Didn’t know what sex was. I’ve never been molested or raped. Didn’t know what gay or straight was. I did know god though he was my life all I knew outside of my parents. School was Christian functions Christian after school events Christian.
See thing is my parents found out about this attraction to Bobby. Snapped my ass out of that school and put me in a new one. I clearly remember that night. My mother sat me at the end of her bed used two AA Duracells batteries explained to me what gay and straight was that god says gay is wrong and the batteries just don’t work male to male. She then pointed out the plug on the wall and how it works blah blah…. Believe they did not just talk to me. I have picked a few switches (infact we had to get a new willow tree), belt buckles, wooden paddles. You know spare the rod spoil the child.
It was all very confusing to me because I know what my god given instincts tell me. Had a few more crushes before puberty at a few schools. See dads military and we moved around.
When puberty came around things got real hard. Se I lived with Christian parents who put me through gay conversion therapy my entire life with them. Turns out it did allot of damage to my personhood and self esteem. That’s why it’s illegal btw, fact, not assumption. My reason to tell you that is to say that I had been convinced it was a faze you know I would grow out of it “gay”. So naturally I was excited for puberty. For things to be normal. However that’s not what happen. It got worse.
I actually started watching straight porn and beating off to it trying to make myself straight. See I even put myself through gay conversion for years. Did allot of damage. Killed my self esteem even more and turned me into an addict. Speaking of addicts as you were seems your making assumptions there as well.
6 years sober from heroin. Started using oxy at 16. I’m 34 now Friend from schools dad had tons of it from his doctor. Had no idea what I was doing. Talk about taking a single moment back. I got over it on my own. No help. See addicts are who k ow about recovery. In fact if you had ever been to a rehab you would know the entire recovery industry is run and employed my recovered addicts.
Back to my point I had a girlfriend in high school her name was Jackie. She was fun, cute, nice, really great. Another one named Allyson. There was Brook, Lindsey and Whitney I just never connected with them. Wasn’t excited to hear from or talk to them. Never was interested in having sex with them. Did what I had to though because it’s what’s right. Even though living that lie just kept destroying my personal life and mentality. Just kept tearing me down. Turns out there allot of things you don’t do or do and walls you build to keep that information and struggle to yourself. You become somebody you don’t know confused addicted un-based. You try to be what you think everyone wants you to be and it gets exhausting and turns into a bad heroin addiction.
Then there was Blake. I was 18 just graduated He was the brother of a coworker I was friends with. Weird dude, tall, deep voice, socially weird. Anyway my friend got a girl became busy so blake and I started hanging out. After a several months maybe a year you know I just started to see him different. Like I fell for him hard. I would have died for that man. I would have built an amazing life for that man and myself.
See now I have never experienced emotion like that with any girls. I have never stumbled over words for a girl. I have never been convinced to change my life for a girl.
That emotion of love you can not control is not confusing. It speaks very clearly and it is not an addiction. I would know what an addiction is because see I have had one. I have lost everything and seen the bottom of my lake. Do you know yours? So if anybody wants to know what it’s like to be an addict, ask an addict not a plumber.
There is ALLOT more to this story and it’s boiled down but there you have.
Now you imply an environmental component but there was nothing out of the ordinary. I was raised in a Christian household in a well off family. So that is not the issue unless you mean a chemical in the environment which you can’t because that would undercut you gay conversion theory.
Now that you have some perspective on my point why don’t you ask some questions about my perspective so you can broaden your perspective and make an informed opinion instead of making assumptions.
Sry for mistakes guys I’m in a hurry and need to go cook dinner from my grandma her sugar is getting low. See I quit my job moved in with her when my grandfather died a year ago. She is 84 has diabetes bad and dementia. She needs constant supervision but I didn’t want to see her in a home. I know OP That’s confusing because I’m such a deviant.
I've never said there can't be "good gays", but the fact that homosexuality is a sin doesn't change. If you want my actual personal opinion on it, I don't entirely buy into the whole born that way, or all queers were molested theories (though there is a bizarre correlation there that can't be ignored).
I'm of the personal opinion that it's one of two things. Either it's a neurological disorder along the same lines as schizophrenia or bipolarism (in the case of people like yourself), or it's the result of grooming and conditioning in order to be "cool" or "trendy".
In the case of the former, I FIRMLY believe there is a treatment or cure. Not gay conversion therapy or something like that. But some kind of hormone balancer pill, or some similar treatment. Like how Schizophrenia is treated. This is how I explain the existence of "natural gays". It's more or less a birth defect that CAN be treated if allowed. It also explains to me how God and Jesus can save gays, since God and Jesus can perform literal miracles like making the blind see, the lame walk, the deaf hear, etc. Or if you want a more modern take, think of all the cases of people just Miraculously recovering from a fatal condition, usually some terminal cancer, and making a full recover with zero evidence they ever had cancer in the first place. It's something that still baffles doctors to this day, but it happens all the time with evidence to back it up. If God and Jesus can do that, then they can surely fix whatever hormonal imbalance or neurological disorder afflicts homosexuals.
It's actually rather funny how any time someone tries to research the origin of homosexuality and how to "cure it" they immediately et shut down for hate crimes and being a bigot. Almost like there's actually something to this theory and there's probably an easy way to cure it. Just like Ivermectin and HCQ are basically cure alls for 90% of illnesses, but were hidden from the general public for decades.
This is also where I'd categorize most people like Richard Grenell, or the walkaway movement guy whose name I can't spell for the life of me. Normal, gay, good people, but still a sinner who needs help. I'll gladly be friendly with them and do everything I can to lead them to God, but it's up to them to accept him and change.
On the other end of the pole, you have morons who think it's "trendy" to be gay, or trans, or basically anything but straight. So they'll pretend or deceive themselves in order to feel accepted and "cool". Like they're part of the "in group". These people are the literal scum of society in my mind, since they're willing to do anything for attention. I also believe this is where most of the "activist queers" fall when you categorize things. Seems to fit the profile after all. I'd say I'd try to lead these people to God.....but if I'm honest I kind of write most of these people off as being part of the "4-7 percent lost forever". I mean nothing is impossible for God, but I wouldn't place any bets on these freaks changing their ways any time soon.
Either way I stand by what I've said. Homosexuality is a sin, and it's open acceptance can't continue if we're to move past the current moral and social degeneracy we're experiencing. But I believe that there will probably be a method to treat or cure it revealed in the post-cabal world.
Interesting points made in this conversation, on both sides actually. I'm with you, but I can't say I've much faith in the schizophrenia medication. They still hear the voices, but the medication just makes them not care so much. My wife had a friend who had 3 abortions, was committing immigration fraud, and developed a severe case of paranoid delusional schizophrenia. She was put on those meds and she could still hear the voices, but just would laugh about it. I honestly think that schizophrenia is a severe case of demonization.
So we've got our gay fren here. As Jeremiah pointed out, this guy's parents freaked out when he was in the 1st grade, oversexualizing a situation that maybe wasn't a big deal. Most gays don't have fathers, but this guy has a military father. Maybe the authoritarian aspect is a driver, and maybe he was gone from home quite a lot. Too many factors to take into consideration.
As a Christian myself, I think most of us fall into the "it's a choice" mentality while secularists insist that it's genetic (despite the "gay gene" being a myth, but chromosomes are patriarchy anyway, so why should they care about racist science?). There is the indoctrination factor, through molestation and trauma. There is also an environmental factor. There really are chemicals in the water that turn the frickin' frogs gay, and I think we're seeing quite a lot of its result as we continue to poison the environment while those who've taken the bullhorn on environmentalism prattle on about cow farts and eeeeevil carbon dioxide molecules.
I think this guy was traumatized when his parents freaked out. I played doctor with my older sister and she tried to dress me in girl clothing a lot until my mom caught on and stopped it. I didn't know what was going on. I think once when I was a kid, I was swimming with a neighbor boy in the same grade and we sort of pulled out our dicks. Kids just do stuff as they figure things out. Heck, my older sister gave me a hand job when I was in the 4th grade or so. I didn't even know what happened, but I casually mentioned to Mom the next day that we'd taken a shower together and Mom freaked out over it and punished my sister. Parents freak the hell out over crap like this and they really shouldn't. I'd say this guy has given us enough to go on and it seems like his parents gave him a complex.
Hmm plausible. I'm not very much into psychoanalysis so I'll leave that to the armchair experts whoa actually know more than me lol.
My personal beliefs on the topic are a bit more in depth and hard to convey in a few lines of text. I DO believe it's a choice but I also believe it's some kind of disorder, hormone imbalance, or some other kind of "abnormality". It's similar to how someone with a mental addiction has urges and feelings but can choose to resist if they wanted to. But I also believe that such things are often caused by a spiritual influence. Either Divine (Such as the lame man who was born lame so that Jesus could heal him later in life as a miracle to bring Glory to God), or demonic (think like that guy who suffered from seizures in the Bible until Jesus cast the demons out of him).
I take a weird, middle ground that leans towards spiritual when it comes to stuff like this. God made the human body, and it's inner workings are an amazing work of art. But even the slightest of changes can cause abnormalities to emerge. These abnormalities can be something like, a slight hormone imbalance, or a certain nerve cluster doesn't work right, maybe your brain formed slightly off kilter, etc. Sometimes, God designs people to have these abnormalities from the start so he can heal them later as a miracle in order to further his glory and spread his word.
On the other hand, I think a lot of "mental health problems" are actually a manifestation of demonic possession. Yes we can treat them with modern tech, but to actually cure them, you need the power of God. Homosexuality falls under this category as well for me.
I personally know a guy who had cancer that was so bad he had a tumor the size of a Labrador retriever hanging off the entire side of his body and his arm. It was terminal, and he was in the process of dying, when all of a sudden it started shrinking for no reason, and eventually disappeared. To this day, the doctors still don't know how or why it happened, and can only explain it away as an act of God.
I think queers who repent and find Jesus and God are similar to this. God performs a miracle for them and fixes whatever physiological abnormality causes them to have the feelings and thoughts they have towards the same sex/gender.
But because there's so little research on the topic, we don't know exactly what that is that's being fixed.
I'm with you. It sort of is a choice, but there are so many factors. When I was 14, I never thought I'd have married an Asian woman since that didn't really click with me at the time. But what we choose to fixate on with our mind is where our heart follows. Nobody just out of nowhere becomes attracted to disgusting, degenerate, depraved stuff like "2 girls 1 cup." They have made the decision to take baby steps towards that and allow their thoughts to dwell on gross stuff like scat. It doesn't come natural. But outright freaking out over stuff as parents can produce compulsive behavior in children.
My uncle is interesting. I introduced him to Q and we have a lot to talk about. At the same time, I think he is an authoritarian father figure. He remarried with a woman who isn't too many years older than myself, and they had a daughter a year after my wife and I did. We were at my parents' home for a holiday like Christmas or something and their baby daughter became interested in trying to push the buttons on dad's DVD player. My uncle and his wife told her no and pulled her away from it. The baby crawled back over to the DVD player and they were waiting for her to touch it again and then scolded her, gave her a gentle swat on her hand, and the baby started crying.
My wife and I were like, WTF? Just guide her to the behavior you want her to have. Give her an option. Don't just wait for her to screw up and swat her. Babies are just babies. Give them options and distractions because by making it forbidden, now you've just made your kid fixated on touching the DVD player (or whatever situation you may have). I just have a feeling that our gay fren here was traumatized by his parents and they made a mountain out of a mole hill.
As for God's healing, both my parents have experienced that. My dad had broken his arm once upon a time and the bone did not heal right. He couldn't straighten out his arm. Then one night a voice told him to receive his healing and then he woke up and realized that he had regained all mobility in his arm. Mom had breast cancer and was healed, feeling the power of God course through her body like electricity. So yeah, God can do miracles!
Still allot of assumptions and no questions.
I do recall reading about how the word in the original txt of the bible was actually pedophile and later change to homosexual. I think it was quit recent as well. In light of the current environment and the information Q has brought forth I do believe that makes allot of sense. Like DING!
I hear you don’t buy into the “born this way” but like here I am a gay man telling you I was born that way. Here now, right here. I even gave a life perspective.
Now as far as treatments what does the txt say about that? I think OLD school that was not allowed and some how that narrative shifted along with the introduction of the Rockefellers and modern science likely with the blessing of the Catholic Church who played a big role in the txt of the Bible we read today and yesterday. It is my understand they also withheld allot of it.
Also exactly who decides what a neurological disorder or hormone imbalance is? Is it the doctors? The ones who told you to get vaccinated? Or the scientist that said the same thing along with global warming.
And what is with the gay is a sin but god can save us because we are really just retarded. Very contradicting? Do you find that happening allot in life? It’s a side effect of assumptions and outsourcing your thinking. Being un-based.
See I consider the possibility that the fundamentals of what I believe, understand and have been taught are wrong. I question everything from every angle. Now more than ever. We see modern txt that would become historical record being changed in real time. We also see the publics mentality shift in how it understand and responds to what it understands.
These people have been trying to divide us for so long. The plan they are enacting and Gods seems to go so far beyond our understanding of time. It’s so big the way it’s all playing out there is no way and person or groups of persons could plan it.
I’m suggesting that the modern bible not only has been edited but that also the way we understand it has been edited through centuries. As far back as they allow us to know at least.
It’s possible that our inner moral compass is what we need to follow. You know that God given instinct. Maybe he has a different plan for as all and he leads us in different directions for reasons bigger than we understand.
Now these kids that are being convinced there gay or want to be cool. I hate it. It truly pisses me off. It undercuts what the actual real life gays fight for. It’s an embarrassment. Pedophiles seen an opportunity and took over the movement. Like they do everything.
The gays were hijacked and perverted too man not just or woman, men, kids, the election or the black community or the schools or the companies or religion. Bad people are taking advantage of all of us and our ignorance. An ignorance we live in because they round up any information that can benefit us at all then reverse it into reality.
Instead of us having conversations about it we are blasting off assumptions based off narratives that continue to benefit the cabals agenda and pockets AT EACH OTHER and not them.
Though, I could be wrong very wrong. I will admit that. I only know what my experience has taught me.
I'm sorry you were abused , beating the gay out of you doesn't work , besting period don't work , switched belt buckles and all the other weapons you speak of ate from the enemy , your parents were Christian's? Spare the Rod dpoilvtbd child does not mean you beat and abuse a child . Ive been there and I'm sorry u lived through this ! I speak peace in the name of Jesus , I ask the Lord to take away any pain from those memories! We'll always have the memories but God can take away the pain it's almost as if we're speaking about someone else when we talk about that har so the memories will always be there but the pain in her Wampee it is if we are talking about some thing that happened but in no way hurt or affected us I wish I had more time but I wanted to say I'm sorry that you went through that, it was wrong and evil and from the pit of hell it was not from God many Christians don't know the love of God obviously in this area your parents did not
So explain more how my parents sexualized it? I am having trouble making that connection. Maybe you can clarify.
I want to assume, though I know the fault in that, you mean because I got spanked. Thing is I got spanked for allot. I was not the most obedient. That would also suggest a likelihood for an interest for bdsm if it transferred sexually. However that’s not the case and why don’t bad grades turn me on? And why don’t I have a fetish for staying up late playing Xbox or not doing my “homework” I got whipped/punished for all that and more like the rest.
Again your assuming and putting words in my mouth I said a school crush. I didn’t say I was trying to have sex with this bloke. I did say I didn’t even know what sex was.
If your need to twist what I am saying to continue your point it seems your grasping straws or maybe it’s a bad attempt to save face and bow out. Idk but If it’s not I will. I have better stuff to do. I don’t even know you. Have a nice night.
Idk man seems your not listen to me and your mind is made up.
I'm not gay nor an addict. I do know we all have our crosses to bare. Sins we fight to control. I can tell you are intelligent and carry a great burden. May God teach you the lesson you are to learn from this life so that your cross burdens you no longer. Don't let anyone tell you that God doesn't love you just as he loves all of His childern. None are without sin and no sin is greater than another.
The only important part to me is, have you reconciled your relationship with Jesus? He loves you no matter what those hateful people said to you.
I am closer to him than I have been.