You're joking right? Russia has flattened whole cities. If Ukraine dares to fight back Russia just blast the entire city to dust with artillery, but its a soft war? You need to pull your head out of your ass. Go look at the pictures of Sievierodonetsk. Its nothing but rubble.
I've yet to pick a side in the politics of this fight because I have my doubts about Putin being a white-hat, but I track the FACTS when it comes to the actual fight. Russia is now losing. Or at least it looks like they are. It might be a cleaver trick or turn into a battle of the bulge moment where Ukraine ends up like Germany but so far Russia is just getting their ass handed to them over the past few days.
Russia is lashing out because its afraid and they want to punish Ukraine for daring to defeat them. Putin's war machine is a broken down dodge pickup truck. Ukraine... probibly with CIA help... has figured out the secret sauce to defeat them. Most importantly Russia is not adapting quickly enough or in some cases NOT AT ALL. Russian equipment barely works. Corrupt officers stole all the money to maintain them. Yeah, they have 10 times as many tanks as Ukraine... WHEN THEY WORK.
Stop listening to that stupid fuck-tard Zalinsky and stop watching fucking RT propaganda. Go look at the strategic maps and look at the real videos people post on Reddit(yeah I know cancer) that show real troops have taken real towns. It shows the whole picture pretty damn well. A fucking Russian LT COLONEL got taken captive by Ukraine. That's a person in charge of a battalion. That's anywhere from 500-2000 men. His area was overrun so badly he and his driver were captured.
This guys videos(The Enforcer) are a little long but if you look in the comments he posts a link to the google map he uses in each video. That map has markers to various videos that give a pretty clear picture of the news of the day.
Whatever. Everyone on this board needs to stop fan-girling Putin and wake up to reality. Russia might lose this fight. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing TBH but it is what it is. The truth is if Putin didn't have nukes NATO upon seeing how horribly Russia did in the first few months would have pulled a Libya on Russia and Putin would already be dead in a ditch just like Qaddafi.
As things stand right now Ukraine might just decide to take territory from Russia because they can. What is Putin going to do lob a nuke at them and start WW fucking three? No he will sue for peace and Ukraine can dictate the terms... the border goes back to pre-Crimea invasion. Fuck off you just got tens of thousands killed for nothing. And owe we want reparations. Putin would be the laughing stock or the world till the day he dies. We aren't there yet, but that has become a REAL possibility. All the Putin fans need to brace themselves. Reality is a bitch.
Just like Russia lost to Georgia, and Syria, and Chechnya right? They have defeated American-backed forces more than once in the last decade alone. They will easily do so again. Russia has not shown its heavy hand yet in an attempt to spare the civilian population. They have acted with extreme moderation.
I hate to burst your bubble, but the Russians are in full retreat right now. I hadn't looked at the reports in the past 12-24 hours when I wrote my post above and its even worse than it was yesterday. The Russian reinforcements were pure smoke and mirrors. Kharkiv is now in Ukraine's hands and several of the major supply lines that go to Sievierodonetsk are now cut off, both road and railway. If things keep going well for Ukraine they will retake that whole area and the Russians won't have the supplies to defend it. All the Russian gains are being undone.
All three of your examples are totally different than what is happening right now. Did the USA send the Georgians HIMARs, M-777, and lots of ammo? No. Pretty sure they didn't even send them basic stuff like AT4 much less Javelins, Stingers etc. You people need to wake up. Russia isn't a freaking supper power anymore. They aren't even a 1st world military any more. Its a little sad really. Its not a done deal but things are looking pretty bad for Russia ATM. Down-voting me just proves the truth hurts.
"We can say that today was the best ever, the second best ever, day for the Russians in the territory of Ukraine. Something must be changed. If you ask what the Russian should change, to tell the truth, I don't know. But I believe, if they don't change anything after this situation, that means there is no need to continue this Special Operation. Because the Ukrainians managed to collect a big number of infantry. Some sources are saying, joking of course they are joking, that now the Ukrainians these days have a so big army that the Ukrainian authorities can give them just stones. And this army is able to crack the Russians' defense order just with stones because there are so much of them."
The simplistic view that "quantity has a quality of its own," is usually attributed to Joseph Stalin, the Georgian leader of the Soviet Union during the second World War (as well as before and after).
Stalin was wrong, as the Second Battle of Kharkov, mentioned here yesterday, provides. In May 1942, near Izium, the Nazis thoroughly defeated a counterattacking Soviet force twice their forces size.
Statement by the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense
*"In order to achieve the stated goals of the special military operation to liberate Donbass, a decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction.
To this end, within three days, an operation was carried out to curtail and organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic.
During this operation, a number of distraction and demonstration activities were carried out with the designation of the real actions of the troops.
In order to prevent damage to Russian troops, a powerful fire defeat was inflicted on the enemy using aviation, missile troops and artillery.
Over three days, more than two thousand Ukrainian and foreign fighters were destroyed, as well as over a hundred units of armored vehicles and artillery."*
Has that been the plan all along?
In retrospect that seems likely. The Russian military must have know that the Ukrainian attack was coming. There was only light resistance against the Ukrainian attack. Major Russian units had already been moved out of the area. The region did not have any public priority in Russian planing. A larger fight would have cost many Russian soldier and civilian lives.
So there were no cunning plans to surround the Ukrainian forces and no real disaster or success on either side.
Well, that is at least what the Russian military says. It also fits to the known facts.
There may be another reason why the Russian military did not want to fight for Izium. In May 1942, during the Second Battle of Kharkov, a Soviet counterattack on Nazi held Kharkov was defeated by two pre-planned Nazi attacks south and north of Izium.
The Ukrainian offensive here is near identical to the Nazi offensive that existed in the same place in WW2.
The Soviet counterattack ended in a bloody defeat:
"On 17 May, the German 3rd Panzer Corps and XXXXIV Army Corps under the command of Fedor von Bock, supported by aircraft, arrived, enabling the Germans to launch Operation Fridericus, pushing back the Soviet Barvenkovo bridgehead to the south. On 18 May, [Marshal Semyon] Timoshenko requested permission to fall back, but Stalin rejected the request. On 19 May, Paulus launched a general offensive to the north as Bock's troops advanced in the south, thus attempting to surround the Soviets in the Izium salient. Realizing the risk of having entire armies surrounded, Stalin authorized the withdraw, but by that time the Soviet forces were already started to be closed in. On 20 May, the nearly surrounded Soviet forces mounted counteroffensives, but none of the attempts were successful in breaking through the German lines. The Soviets achieved some small victories on 21 and 22 May, but by 24 May, they were surrounded near Kharkov."
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The Second Battle of Kharkov resulted in an extremely costly loss to the Soviets, which saw 207,000 men killed, wounded, or captured; some estimates put the number as high as 240,000. Over 1,000 Soviet tanks were destroyed during this battle, as well as the loss of 57,000 horses. German losses were much smaller than the Soviets, with over 20,000 killed, wounded, or captured. Soviet General Georgy Zhukov later blamed this major defeat on Stalin, who underestimated German strength in the region and failed to prepare an adequate reserve force to counter the arrival of the German reinforcement that turned the tide.
See in the far right column the "Field uniform insignia" matches. That is a Russian Lieutenant colonel and his driver. He's in charge of an entire battalion(that's maybe 1000+ men) but he's been captured. Totally normal. Nothing to see here.
I've studied various maps throughout this whole thing and while they aren't perfect they are generally accurate(to within 24-72 hours of what's happening). There is TONS of video evidence to support that they are accurate ATM, such as the one above, and videos of Ukrainians forces on the roof of buildings showing a specific formerly Russian held towns skyline. If this shit is fake is it literally tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of edited and computer graphic video. More importantly the Russian's simply aren't talking or they give obvious false info Baghdad Bob style bullshit with zero detail.
I'll sum this up. The Russians are still holding their ground in the east and south. The north has completely collapsed. The Russian troops are running away so quickly that when a truck, tank, or BMP etc breaks down they just leave it on the side of the road. They don't even take the time to scuttle or sabotage it. They just grab everything that will fit on the other vehicles and leave it sitting there for the Ukrainians chasing them to find and repair. Its a literal cluster fuck. I've seen like 20 credible videos of abandoned vehicles.
One video was of an obvious supply area/very large barn. There were like 6 Ural trucks and 2-3 grad rocket launcher trucks with big a Z on the side. Every one the hood was opened up. Someone took 5-10 min to try and fix it then said fuck it and got in the working truck to flee the area.
This is exactly why the Russians are losing. Its so obvious, to me at least. Their equipment was all in piss poor shape to start with they just had shit-tons of it. After months of war half of it doesn't work and they don't even have parts to fix it. When you combine that with Ukraine blowing up tons of stuff that DID work... you get a VERY ugly picture. The mighty Russian machine reached its limit.
Now look at the next part of the puzzle. There had been little to no real fighting in the north for weeks on end. Ukraine was set to attack in the south. They were clearly massing troops. The Russians took their good working equipment from the north and moved a lot of it to the south in order to bolster their defenses. Ukraine (really the CIA) tricked them though. They used HIMARS to blow up those two key bridges. That trapped most of the working equipment in the south... but cut off resupply and escape. Yet in the north it left a paper thin defense line which they attacked just to see how strong it really was and it collapsed completely.
The problem is right now the Ukrainians up north are making their way east virtually unopposed. In a few days they are going to be headed back south BEHIND the current Russian lines in Donetsk. Its either that or they are going to invade Russia. When they turn south even more troops will have to decide to risk being cut off or run the fuck away. The momentum is completely on Ukraine's side.
Nothing is guaranteed, but all indications are Russia is totally fucked. The only way they can fix this is to pull troops from other places like NATO border bases which will leave that lightly/undefended. Even if they do that it might take them a week to figure out the logistics. This whole damn war might literally be over in a week at the current pace Ukraine is setting.
Understand now? Russia is fucked. That's just the facts on the ground. If they were a competent 1st world army with good equipment and disciplined professional solders they COULD recover from this. And if they do I will be impressed, but they aren't. They are a 3rd world military with degraded poorly maintained aged/ancient equipment and poor training. They will be slow and ineffective which will allow the Ukrainians to keep right on overwhelming them.
The only advantage and only reason Russian won ANY fight in this whole war was massive artillery barrages and large numbers of troops. They are now out of ammo(because the depot was either blown up by HIMARS or the bridge to get more was blown up) and half their guns are either at end of life from being used too much or they've been blown up. PLUS all their towing/grad trucks are breaking down from poor maintenance. Any one of those can be compensated for, but all of them together have made the Russian forces ineffective. Ukraine on the other hand has brand new M-777 guns and plenty of trucks/ammo. They have fewer of them BUT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE. AND they have what... a dozen or more insanely accurate HIMARS...
Nope, "I am not joking". If you believe in Kiev News and the MSM I guess your statement of " Russia has flattened whole cities" is the narrative.
Any Ukraine sourced material hasn't been credible. In war, truth especially suffers due to propaganda. The same credibility issue could be said of Russia, except Russia has been consistently more measured and consistent with the reports than Kiev has. The two leaders, one being a sadistic comedian, who on stage played the piano with his pecker and also has no issue of cross-dressing on national TV, compared to the other, who is a Russian Eastern Orthodox Christian and reestablished the Christian church in Russia, is hated by the Western Satanic Cabal. This gives me a good sense of who more to believe.
So all those long videos taken from drones of Sievierodonetsk as a pile of ruble were fake. We are talking Hollywood big budget movie grade computer effects that would cost millions of dollars were used to make multiple fake videos and google earth has fake satellite pics too?
I decided to check and google is using an old image from months ago that doesn't show the damage. If there was a propaganda campaign by the globalist side they would have changed that already to show the massive damage. They don't need to. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain. There are literally 100s of videos showing the damage.
Forget the subject of the video. Look at the buildings. Every one of them has been hit by artilery from both sides, but mostly Russia. You can't just put a little Spackle and paint over that. 90% of those buildings will have to be torn down and replaced.
I can't find it ATM but there is another small village that the Russians just flattened. Its like maybe 100 houses in 6-8 nice neat rows and every one is just burnt rubble.
You're like the leftist with TDS. You are so concerned about that idiot Zalensky's cross dressing you can't be bothered to pay attention to reality. He's a figurehead for the deep state. We all know it. He's not really in charge.
People on this board have lost their way. I tell them the truth and they down-vote me like I'm a heretic because I dared to disrupt their narrative.
Your posts here seem somewhat combative and contentious. The antipathy is unwelcome though. As a personal rule, I will never use ad hominems as you seem to be doing here nor will I down-vote anyone. You can be assured that this is not going to happen with me. I'll only seek to understand the other person's thesis and position. I may disagree, but I will always respect the other person's position.
To return to the Russian and Ukrainian conflict, the UkroNazis have previously declared genocide against the Russian speaking people of Donesk. This is not central to my reply so I will not provide the history of it at this time, but nevertheless it is the reason why the Crimea made their choice to be part of Russia. It is the same reason why the Donbass is acting to do the same.
You declared Russia did the bombing when Ukraine has been continuously bombing civilian areas of cities in the Donbass. For example, the hospital in Mariupol that Kiev claimed Russia bombed turned out to be the UkroNazis. First, war is hell; war is chaos and anarchy, and there is no such thing as a 'surgical strike'. Everything in war is collateral damage. But, the propaganda from war is the stuff made for fictional movies. In stating this, I'm not saying Russia hasn't bombed civilian areas. It's bound to happen, especially when military forces are set up in civilian dwellings. All of this is possible. It appears the Zelinsky regime doesn't cares less about casualties and far less than the Russians do. Estimates of Ukrainian loses is over 225 thousand so far since February. They had a real opportunity to end the war in April. However, Boris Johnson demanded Zelinsky do otherwise. To me, this really speaks volumes about Zelinsky. It is looking more true everyday that the Biden Administration is willing to fight to the very last Ukrainian and Zelinsky is satisfied with that. We know that Vladimir Zelinsky is not a rational politician or decision maker. He is an actor who pretends to have a huge dick with which he can play a piano (vid). Everything that he and his producer team in Kiev do must be seen in that light. They are playing to the Ukrainian and 'western' public for personal profits. It explains Zelinsky's $35 million villa in Miami and 70% of all the American military aid that goes missing in Ukraine. Each of their moves is calculated with that in mind. Telling the truth and the welfare of the local population are of no concern to them. When you said -- "If there was a propaganda campaign by the globalist side they would have changed that already to show the massive damage."
Regretably, you're not really in a position to know this as verifiable fact (either am I). It is however speculation on your part. These Satanic propagandists are not always smart and do make mistakes, but they definitely control the levers of mass media.
On July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads, Putin said:
"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet."
You're probibly right about me using ad-hom wording and being combative. I probibly shouldn't do that regardless. However the fact is its in response to people on these boards being so pro-Russian that they have attacked me in far worse ways. I figured out the reason a while back. The answer is obvious... they are Russian nationals. I'm American. What are you? I rarely even speak up about the war because I know I will just get shouted down unfairly.
You spent a lot of time talking about Zelinsky and his stupid masters. Then you talk about the Nazi factions in Ukraine. I'm sure they exist but they just like any other radical group do not represent the whole of Ukraine. I know this for a FACT. My nephew spent two years in Ukraine for his Mormon mission just a few years back. You and Russia act like Azov is the entirety of the whole military. Its what 1-2 battalions... out of like hundreds.
And Zelinsky... kek he's an idiot and joke. Who cares what he does. We all know the CIA is running this war.
I tried to address your claim... that Russia is carrying out a "soft war". That's utter crap. Also, I never claimed Ukraine was innocent. I CERTAINLY never claimed Azov and crew were. Both sides have done a lot of messed up crap. However, to the people on GAW Ukraine is the bad guy in every situation. They can do no right. They even get blamed for shit Russia actually did. Everything is globalist propaganda. Real Russian propaganda is dismissed as Ukrainian. Its just sad.
There is a more important fact that I want to make quite clear so I'm going to scream it at the top of my lungs. RUSSIA IS NOW LOSING! BADLY!!! Are we on the same page? That's not propaganda. Its not a globalist ploy to fool the world. Its just the hard facts on the ground backed up by dozens and dozens of amateur videos from multiple sources ON BOTH SIDES. They can't all be fake. In fact almost none of them have even been challenged as even maybe being faked.
Thus the strike on Ukraine's power infrastructure is purely a way to punish Ukraine and might even be a desperate ploy to slow down their complete rout of Russia in the north. Nothing more. Nothing less. See this post for further details.
One more thing... you said that Ukraine had an opportunity to end the war in April. What you really mean is they can capitulate to Putin and allow him to keep the territory he took by force just to stop the fighting. In other words Putin wins by default. Instead they kept fighting and they are now winning. You do realize(and I say this from the USA perspective) that what you are suggesting would be like if the USA attacked and took the entire eastern half of Canada and you said that the UK, AU, etc should all stop helping Canada so they can sue for peace and allow the USA to just keep half of Canada because... reasons.
It doesn't make a lick of sense. The territory is either part of Ukraine and they should fight for it or borders mean NOTHING. Every nation should just blast their weak neighbor and take whatever part of their territory they want for whatever reason they want. Like Canada wants the USA bread basket they should just take it. Brazil wants Venezuela's oil... just invade and take it. Total chaos. No big deal. SMH...
You are suggesting that when Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1991 that everyone should have just let him keep it. He won it fair and square. Those damn Kuwaitis had a few Nazi's in their midst anyway. Saddam had every right to de-Nazify them and sense he did he can just keep the territory. Pure madness. Its like we've regressed back to the 1500s.
If Putin is a white-hat that is part of the Q plan then HE FAILED at his task SPECTACULARLY. If he's not then he's just another thug trying to steal from his neighbor and you idiots are supporting/rooting for him. The fact that the person he's stealing from is a globalist puppet doesn't make it not stealing. Putin isn't freeing anyone. He's just a different puppet master.
Worse, now he's losing. He will end up the laughing stock of the world till the day he dies which I suspect might come very soon. His own people are going to throw him away once his failure is complete. Weak "strong men" rarely last long.
We'll see though. Battle isn't over. Maybe Russia will surprise us and somehow recover from this mess.
You're joking right? Russia has flattened whole cities. If Ukraine dares to fight back Russia just blast the entire city to dust with artillery, but its a soft war? You need to pull your head out of your ass. Go look at the pictures of Sievierodonetsk. Its nothing but rubble.
I've yet to pick a side in the politics of this fight because I have my doubts about Putin being a white-hat, but I track the FACTS when it comes to the actual fight. Russia is now losing. Or at least it looks like they are. It might be a cleaver trick or turn into a battle of the bulge moment where Ukraine ends up like Germany but so far Russia is just getting their ass handed to them over the past few days.
Russia is lashing out because its afraid and they want to punish Ukraine for daring to defeat them. Putin's war machine is a broken down dodge pickup truck. Ukraine... probibly with CIA help... has figured out the secret sauce to defeat them. Most importantly Russia is not adapting quickly enough or in some cases NOT AT ALL. Russian equipment barely works. Corrupt officers stole all the money to maintain them. Yeah, they have 10 times as many tanks as Ukraine... WHEN THEY WORK.
Stop listening to that stupid fuck-tard Zalinsky and stop watching fucking RT propaganda. Go look at the strategic maps and look at the real videos people post on Reddit(yeah I know cancer) that show real troops have taken real towns. It shows the whole picture pretty damn well. A fucking Russian LT COLONEL got taken captive by Ukraine. That's a person in charge of a battalion. That's anywhere from 500-2000 men. His area was overrun so badly he and his driver were captured.
https://deepstatemap.live/en#9/49.5851/37.0102
https://liveuamap.com/
https://militaryland.net/
This guys videos(The Enforcer) are a little long but if you look in the comments he posts a link to the google map he uses in each video. That map has markers to various videos that give a pretty clear picture of the news of the day.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM-eRxEc_TutiPIbOS1YYbw/videos
Whatever. Everyone on this board needs to stop fan-girling Putin and wake up to reality. Russia might lose this fight. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing TBH but it is what it is. The truth is if Putin didn't have nukes NATO upon seeing how horribly Russia did in the first few months would have pulled a Libya on Russia and Putin would already be dead in a ditch just like Qaddafi.
As things stand right now Ukraine might just decide to take territory from Russia because they can. What is Putin going to do lob a nuke at them and start WW fucking three? No he will sue for peace and Ukraine can dictate the terms... the border goes back to pre-Crimea invasion. Fuck off you just got tens of thousands killed for nothing. And owe we want reparations. Putin would be the laughing stock or the world till the day he dies. We aren't there yet, but that has become a REAL possibility. All the Putin fans need to brace themselves. Reality is a bitch.
Just like Russia lost to Georgia, and Syria, and Chechnya right? They have defeated American-backed forces more than once in the last decade alone. They will easily do so again. Russia has not shown its heavy hand yet in an attempt to spare the civilian population. They have acted with extreme moderation.
I hate to burst your bubble, but the Russians are in full retreat right now. I hadn't looked at the reports in the past 12-24 hours when I wrote my post above and its even worse than it was yesterday. The Russian reinforcements were pure smoke and mirrors. Kharkiv is now in Ukraine's hands and several of the major supply lines that go to Sievierodonetsk are now cut off, both road and railway. If things keep going well for Ukraine they will retake that whole area and the Russians won't have the supplies to defend it. All the Russian gains are being undone.
All three of your examples are totally different than what is happening right now. Did the USA send the Georgians HIMARs, M-777, and lots of ammo? No. Pretty sure they didn't even send them basic stuff like AT4 much less Javelins, Stingers etc. You people need to wake up. Russia isn't a freaking supper power anymore. They aren't even a 1st world military any more. Its a little sad really. Its not a done deal but things are looking pretty bad for Russia ATM. Down-voting me just proves the truth hurts.
What reports do you refer to? The media? Could you provide solid intel about the Russians being in full retreat, please?
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The following is an interesting analysis called -- "The Izium Withdrawal - A Catalyst For 'Starting In Earnest'"
"We can say that today was the best ever, the second best ever, day for the Russians in the territory of Ukraine. Something must be changed. If you ask what the Russian should change, to tell the truth, I don't know. But I believe, if they don't change anything after this situation, that means there is no need to continue this Special Operation. Because the Ukrainians managed to collect a big number of infantry. Some sources are saying, joking of course they are joking, that now the Ukrainians these days have a so big army that the Ukrainian authorities can give them just stones. And this army is able to crack the Russians' defense order just with stones because there are so much of them."
The above is the opener of Dima's Military Summary of yesterday's events in Ukraine.
The simplistic view that "quantity has a quality of its own," is usually attributed to Joseph Stalin, the Georgian leader of the Soviet Union during the second World War (as well as before and after).
Stalin was wrong, as the Second Battle of Kharkov, mentioned here yesterday, provides. In May 1942, near Izium, the Nazis thoroughly defeated a counterattacking Soviet force twice their forces size.
Statement by the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense
*"In order to achieve the stated goals of the special military operation to liberate Donbass, a decision was made to regroup the Russian troops stationed in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction.
To this end, within three days, an operation was carried out to curtail and organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakley group of troops to the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic.
During this operation, a number of distraction and demonstration activities were carried out with the designation of the real actions of the troops.
In order to prevent damage to Russian troops, a powerful fire defeat was inflicted on the enemy using aviation, missile troops and artillery.
Over three days, more than two thousand Ukrainian and foreign fighters were destroyed, as well as over a hundred units of armored vehicles and artillery."*
Has that been the plan all along?
In retrospect that seems likely. The Russian military must have know that the Ukrainian attack was coming. There was only light resistance against the Ukrainian attack. Major Russian units had already been moved out of the area. The region did not have any public priority in Russian planing. A larger fight would have cost many Russian soldier and civilian lives.
So there were no cunning plans to surround the Ukrainian forces and no real disaster or success on either side.
Well, that is at least what the Russian military says. It also fits to the known facts.
There may be another reason why the Russian military did not want to fight for Izium. In May 1942, during the Second Battle of Kharkov, a Soviet counterattack on Nazi held Kharkov was defeated by two pre-planned Nazi attacks south and north of Izium.
The Ukrainian offensive here is near identical to the Nazi offensive that existed in the same place in WW2.
The Soviet counterattack ended in a bloody defeat:
"On 17 May, the German 3rd Panzer Corps and XXXXIV Army Corps under the command of Fedor von Bock, supported by aircraft, arrived, enabling the Germans to launch Operation Fridericus, pushing back the Soviet Barvenkovo bridgehead to the south. On 18 May, [Marshal Semyon] Timoshenko requested permission to fall back, but Stalin rejected the request. On 19 May, Paulus launched a general offensive to the north as Bock's troops advanced in the south, thus attempting to surround the Soviets in the Izium salient. Realizing the risk of having entire armies surrounded, Stalin authorized the withdraw, but by that time the Soviet forces were already started to be closed in. On 20 May, the nearly surrounded Soviet forces mounted counteroffensives, but none of the attempts were successful in breaking through the German lines. The Soviets achieved some small victories on 21 and 22 May, but by 24 May, they were surrounded near Kharkov." ...
The Second Battle of Kharkov resulted in an extremely costly loss to the Soviets, which saw 207,000 men killed, wounded, or captured; some estimates put the number as high as 240,000. Over 1,000 Soviet tanks were destroyed during this battle, as well as the loss of 57,000 horses. German losses were much smaller than the Soviets, with over 20,000 killed, wounded, or captured. Soviet General Georgy Zhukov later blamed this major defeat on Stalin, who underestimated German strength in the region and failed to prepare an adequate reserve force to counter the arrival of the German reinforcement that turned the tide.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x81y30/ukrainian_soldiers_with_russian_prisoners/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Pause this video at about 8 seconds and look VERY hard at his left shoulder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ranks_and_insignia_of_the_Russian_Federation#Officers
Lieutenant colonel - Подполко́вник - Podpolkóvnik
See in the far right column the "Field uniform insignia" matches. That is a Russian Lieutenant colonel and his driver. He's in charge of an entire battalion(that's maybe 1000+ men) but he's been captured. Totally normal. Nothing to see here.
I've studied various maps throughout this whole thing and while they aren't perfect they are generally accurate(to within 24-72 hours of what's happening). There is TONS of video evidence to support that they are accurate ATM, such as the one above, and videos of Ukrainians forces on the roof of buildings showing a specific formerly Russian held towns skyline. If this shit is fake is it literally tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of edited and computer graphic video. More importantly the Russian's simply aren't talking or they give obvious false info Baghdad Bob style bullshit with zero detail.
https://deepstatemap.live/en#8/49.732/36.200
https://liveuamap.com/
https://militaryland.net/
I'll sum this up. The Russians are still holding their ground in the east and south. The north has completely collapsed. The Russian troops are running away so quickly that when a truck, tank, or BMP etc breaks down they just leave it on the side of the road. They don't even take the time to scuttle or sabotage it. They just grab everything that will fit on the other vehicles and leave it sitting there for the Ukrainians chasing them to find and repair. Its a literal cluster fuck. I've seen like 20 credible videos of abandoned vehicles.
One video was of an obvious supply area/very large barn. There were like 6 Ural trucks and 2-3 grad rocket launcher trucks with big a Z on the side. Every one the hood was opened up. Someone took 5-10 min to try and fix it then said fuck it and got in the working truck to flee the area.
This is exactly why the Russians are losing. Its so obvious, to me at least. Their equipment was all in piss poor shape to start with they just had shit-tons of it. After months of war half of it doesn't work and they don't even have parts to fix it. When you combine that with Ukraine blowing up tons of stuff that DID work... you get a VERY ugly picture. The mighty Russian machine reached its limit.
Now look at the next part of the puzzle. There had been little to no real fighting in the north for weeks on end. Ukraine was set to attack in the south. They were clearly massing troops. The Russians took their good working equipment from the north and moved a lot of it to the south in order to bolster their defenses. Ukraine (really the CIA) tricked them though. They used HIMARS to blow up those two key bridges. That trapped most of the working equipment in the south... but cut off resupply and escape. Yet in the north it left a paper thin defense line which they attacked just to see how strong it really was and it collapsed completely.
The problem is right now the Ukrainians up north are making their way east virtually unopposed. In a few days they are going to be headed back south BEHIND the current Russian lines in Donetsk. Its either that or they are going to invade Russia. When they turn south even more troops will have to decide to risk being cut off or run the fuck away. The momentum is completely on Ukraine's side.
Nothing is guaranteed, but all indications are Russia is totally fucked. The only way they can fix this is to pull troops from other places like NATO border bases which will leave that lightly/undefended. Even if they do that it might take them a week to figure out the logistics. This whole damn war might literally be over in a week at the current pace Ukraine is setting.
Understand now? Russia is fucked. That's just the facts on the ground. If they were a competent 1st world army with good equipment and disciplined professional solders they COULD recover from this. And if they do I will be impressed, but they aren't. They are a 3rd world military with degraded poorly maintained aged/ancient equipment and poor training. They will be slow and ineffective which will allow the Ukrainians to keep right on overwhelming them.
The only advantage and only reason Russian won ANY fight in this whole war was massive artillery barrages and large numbers of troops. They are now out of ammo(because the depot was either blown up by HIMARS or the bridge to get more was blown up) and half their guns are either at end of life from being used too much or they've been blown up. PLUS all their towing/grad trucks are breaking down from poor maintenance. Any one of those can be compensated for, but all of them together have made the Russian forces ineffective. Ukraine on the other hand has brand new M-777 guns and plenty of trucks/ammo. They have fewer of them BUT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE. AND they have what... a dozen or more insanely accurate HIMARS...
Russia is fucked. That's just reality.
Nope, "I am not joking". If you believe in Kiev News and the MSM I guess your statement of " Russia has flattened whole cities" is the narrative.
Any Ukraine sourced material hasn't been credible. In war, truth especially suffers due to propaganda. The same credibility issue could be said of Russia, except Russia has been consistently more measured and consistent with the reports than Kiev has. The two leaders, one being a sadistic comedian, who on stage played the piano with his pecker and also has no issue of cross-dressing on national TV, compared to the other, who is a Russian Eastern Orthodox Christian and reestablished the Christian church in Russia, is hated by the Western Satanic Cabal. This gives me a good sense of who more to believe.
So all those long videos taken from drones of Sievierodonetsk as a pile of ruble were fake. We are talking Hollywood big budget movie grade computer effects that would cost millions of dollars were used to make multiple fake videos and google earth has fake satellite pics too?
I decided to check and google is using an old image from months ago that doesn't show the damage. If there was a propaganda campaign by the globalist side they would have changed that already to show the massive damage. They don't need to. Its obvious to anyone with half a brain. There are literally 100s of videos showing the damage.
https://youtu.be/YgpzR1MkTBw
Forget the subject of the video. Look at the buildings. Every one of them has been hit by artilery from both sides, but mostly Russia. You can't just put a little Spackle and paint over that. 90% of those buildings will have to be torn down and replaced.
I can't find it ATM but there is another small village that the Russians just flattened. Its like maybe 100 houses in 6-8 nice neat rows and every one is just burnt rubble.
You're like the leftist with TDS. You are so concerned about that idiot Zalensky's cross dressing you can't be bothered to pay attention to reality. He's a figurehead for the deep state. We all know it. He's not really in charge.
People on this board have lost their way. I tell them the truth and they down-vote me like I'm a heretic because I dared to disrupt their narrative.
SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER... SHUN!!!
Your posts here seem somewhat combative and contentious. The antipathy is unwelcome though. As a personal rule, I will never use ad hominems as you seem to be doing here nor will I down-vote anyone. You can be assured that this is not going to happen with me. I'll only seek to understand the other person's thesis and position. I may disagree, but I will always respect the other person's position.
To return to the Russian and Ukrainian conflict, the UkroNazis have previously declared genocide against the Russian speaking people of Donesk. This is not central to my reply so I will not provide the history of it at this time, but nevertheless it is the reason why the Crimea made their choice to be part of Russia. It is the same reason why the Donbass is acting to do the same.
You declared Russia did the bombing when Ukraine has been continuously bombing civilian areas of cities in the Donbass. For example, the hospital in Mariupol that Kiev claimed Russia bombed turned out to be the UkroNazis. First, war is hell; war is chaos and anarchy, and there is no such thing as a 'surgical strike'. Everything in war is collateral damage. But, the propaganda from war is the stuff made for fictional movies. In stating this, I'm not saying Russia hasn't bombed civilian areas. It's bound to happen, especially when military forces are set up in civilian dwellings. All of this is possible. It appears the Zelinsky regime doesn't cares less about casualties and far less than the Russians do. Estimates of Ukrainian loses is over 225 thousand so far since February. They had a real opportunity to end the war in April. However, Boris Johnson demanded Zelinsky do otherwise. To me, this really speaks volumes about Zelinsky. It is looking more true everyday that the Biden Administration is willing to fight to the very last Ukrainian and Zelinsky is satisfied with that. We know that Vladimir Zelinsky is not a rational politician or decision maker. He is an actor who pretends to have a huge dick with which he can play a piano (vid). Everything that he and his producer team in Kiev do must be seen in that light. They are playing to the Ukrainian and 'western' public for personal profits. It explains Zelinsky's $35 million villa in Miami and 70% of all the American military aid that goes missing in Ukraine. Each of their moves is calculated with that in mind. Telling the truth and the welfare of the local population are of no concern to them. When you said -- "If there was a propaganda campaign by the globalist side they would have changed that already to show the massive damage."
Regretably, you're not really in a position to know this as verifiable fact (either am I). It is however speculation on your part. These Satanic propagandists are not always smart and do make mistakes, but they definitely control the levers of mass media.
On July 7, in a session with Duma leaders and party factions heads, Putin said:
"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try. We have already heard a lot about the West wanting to fight us ”to the last Ukrainian.“ This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people, but that seems to be where it is going. But everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything in earnest yet."
You're probibly right about me using ad-hom wording and being combative. I probibly shouldn't do that regardless. However the fact is its in response to people on these boards being so pro-Russian that they have attacked me in far worse ways. I figured out the reason a while back. The answer is obvious... they are Russian nationals. I'm American. What are you? I rarely even speak up about the war because I know I will just get shouted down unfairly.
You spent a lot of time talking about Zelinsky and his stupid masters. Then you talk about the Nazi factions in Ukraine. I'm sure they exist but they just like any other radical group do not represent the whole of Ukraine. I know this for a FACT. My nephew spent two years in Ukraine for his Mormon mission just a few years back. You and Russia act like Azov is the entirety of the whole military. Its what 1-2 battalions... out of like hundreds.
And Zelinsky... kek he's an idiot and joke. Who cares what he does. We all know the CIA is running this war.
I tried to address your claim... that Russia is carrying out a "soft war". That's utter crap. Also, I never claimed Ukraine was innocent. I CERTAINLY never claimed Azov and crew were. Both sides have done a lot of messed up crap. However, to the people on GAW Ukraine is the bad guy in every situation. They can do no right. They even get blamed for shit Russia actually did. Everything is globalist propaganda. Real Russian propaganda is dismissed as Ukrainian. Its just sad.
There is a more important fact that I want to make quite clear so I'm going to scream it at the top of my lungs. RUSSIA IS NOW LOSING! BADLY!!! Are we on the same page? That's not propaganda. Its not a globalist ploy to fool the world. Its just the hard facts on the ground backed up by dozens and dozens of amateur videos from multiple sources ON BOTH SIDES. They can't all be fake. In fact almost none of them have even been challenged as even maybe being faked.
Thus the strike on Ukraine's power infrastructure is purely a way to punish Ukraine and might even be a desperate ploy to slow down their complete rout of Russia in the north. Nothing more. Nothing less. See this post for further details.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JU81c01O/x/c/4OdhYjCxZtE
One more thing... you said that Ukraine had an opportunity to end the war in April. What you really mean is they can capitulate to Putin and allow him to keep the territory he took by force just to stop the fighting. In other words Putin wins by default. Instead they kept fighting and they are now winning. You do realize(and I say this from the USA perspective) that what you are suggesting would be like if the USA attacked and took the entire eastern half of Canada and you said that the UK, AU, etc should all stop helping Canada so they can sue for peace and allow the USA to just keep half of Canada because... reasons.
It doesn't make a lick of sense. The territory is either part of Ukraine and they should fight for it or borders mean NOTHING. Every nation should just blast their weak neighbor and take whatever part of their territory they want for whatever reason they want. Like Canada wants the USA bread basket they should just take it. Brazil wants Venezuela's oil... just invade and take it. Total chaos. No big deal. SMH...
You are suggesting that when Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1991 that everyone should have just let him keep it. He won it fair and square. Those damn Kuwaitis had a few Nazi's in their midst anyway. Saddam had every right to de-Nazify them and sense he did he can just keep the territory. Pure madness. Its like we've regressed back to the 1500s.
If Putin is a white-hat that is part of the Q plan then HE FAILED at his task SPECTACULARLY. If he's not then he's just another thug trying to steal from his neighbor and you idiots are supporting/rooting for him. The fact that the person he's stealing from is a globalist puppet doesn't make it not stealing. Putin isn't freeing anyone. He's just a different puppet master.
Worse, now he's losing. He will end up the laughing stock of the world till the day he dies which I suspect might come very soon. His own people are going to throw him away once his failure is complete. Weak "strong men" rarely last long.
We'll see though. Battle isn't over. Maybe Russia will surprise us and somehow recover from this mess.