Not sure about that. Killing the Western economy and creating a new allied superpower (China/Russia/others) could be very aligned with certain globalist interests.
Hopefully you're right, but the west lives better than everyone else and the globalist leaders are dying to adjust us to a lower, more subservient way of life, which they seem to be implementing under the excuses of climate change and the conflict in Ukraine.
Putin is out for him and his people and is definitely not out to benefit us. He's better than zelensky, who is actively working against his own people, but I don't trust that his objectives will work out in a way that benefits us.
Putin Is ANTI-GLOBALISATION. He is crashing the fiat system as he and other BRICS nations usher in a FAIR WORLD ORDER. If you have listened to his speeches since the SMO, he does not give a toss about the USA and EU and many Western countries. They themselves- NOT Putin, have bought their collapse on themselves. While they were off partying on the taxpayers hard earned taxes, Putin was strengthening his country for this very time. The West has become a trash can of political crimes, corruption at every level and a decaying society feeding a woke agenda, endangering the family unit and encouraging crimes against children, ie transgendering. Western society is sick Why should he benefit anyone but the Russian people? He’s finished with the EU, USA and the West. The $ is collapsing and soon the West, EU and USA will go into a deep recession and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I hope you are not mistaking the Soviet Union for Russia today.
No, I get all that. What I'm saying is that China and Russia's new world order (according to a Chinese state rep) might just be the direction the globalists are intending things to go.
People forget that a collapsed opulent west is in full alignment with globalist ideals, no matter how it happens. They don't want citizens living like we can anymore and have made that clear. The BRICS can go IMF anytime it wants, most of their citizenry are already under the boot.
The assumption that globalism must involve the West isn't valid anymore. I get that Putin and Xi are against the west and for good cause in many ways, but the globalism isn't going anywhere, they just want it to be their form instead of the old form.
I have zero faith that any system set up by an alliance involving the Chinese communist party would result in a fair, or better, world order. It would only be even less accountable to its citizens than the already corrupt current model.
The only thing that has thrown that mindset for a loop with me is Taiwan and Ukraine, both globalist supported countries on the doorstep of each nation. If China was to start taking Taiwan I really don't think we'd stop them like Ukraine/Hong Kong with COVID.
So the Wests mess is just an illusion? The West is being watched by CIA etc and the censoring is horrendous but we keep hawking back to China/Russia/Iran etc. While we might look down our noses at Communism (and Russia is not Communist) what these SOVEREIGN nations have might be different, but the judiciary, political class on all sides, the CEOs of media companies as well as their social media platforms in America are criminal. What they have done to the American public is beyond dystopian. And we condemn these Sovereign nations? We need to understand where we are heading and Putin at this moment in time is more of a leader than any leader on earth. No wonder thousands are applying to move there. You can apply if you want to. My suggestion. Keep the application handy, in 6 months you might have different thoughts as America collapses under the weight of corruption.
Yes! As much as I may disagree with someone, one of the best aspects of this forum is mature debate. It can't become an echo chamber because then it's just the flippity-flop of Twit.
Yeah, ya see I want the operations over there to be good thing too, but I have to be realistic about there being other (possibly more likely) possibilities here.
Seems like every time you question Putin's intentions people get really mad. I'm not sure if it's because people instantly assume you're a low info leftist (I could get that) or because they are totally convinced that his efforts are secretly to uproot the deep state, which would be a great thing but it's foolish not to consider other possibilities in lieu of hard supporting evidence. I get that it's less comfortable to people than believing that a Russian dictator is teaming up with a Chinese communist dictator, but we were taught to think, not just blindly accept.
Putin is anti-globalist now
Not sure about that. Killing the Western economy and creating a new allied superpower (China/Russia/others) could be very aligned with certain globalist interests.
Hopefully you're right, but the west lives better than everyone else and the globalist leaders are dying to adjust us to a lower, more subservient way of life, which they seem to be implementing under the excuses of climate change and the conflict in Ukraine.
Putin is out for him and his people and is definitely not out to benefit us. He's better than zelensky, who is actively working against his own people, but I don't trust that his objectives will work out in a way that benefits us.
Putin Is ANTI-GLOBALISATION. He is crashing the fiat system as he and other BRICS nations usher in a FAIR WORLD ORDER. If you have listened to his speeches since the SMO, he does not give a toss about the USA and EU and many Western countries. They themselves- NOT Putin, have bought their collapse on themselves. While they were off partying on the taxpayers hard earned taxes, Putin was strengthening his country for this very time. The West has become a trash can of political crimes, corruption at every level and a decaying society feeding a woke agenda, endangering the family unit and encouraging crimes against children, ie transgendering. Western society is sick Why should he benefit anyone but the Russian people? He’s finished with the EU, USA and the West. The $ is collapsing and soon the West, EU and USA will go into a deep recession and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I hope you are not mistaking the Soviet Union for Russia today.
No, I get all that. What I'm saying is that China and Russia's new world order (according to a Chinese state rep) might just be the direction the globalists are intending things to go.
People forget that a collapsed opulent west is in full alignment with globalist ideals, no matter how it happens. They don't want citizens living like we can anymore and have made that clear. The BRICS can go IMF anytime it wants, most of their citizenry are already under the boot.
The assumption that globalism must involve the West isn't valid anymore. I get that Putin and Xi are against the west and for good cause in many ways, but the globalism isn't going anywhere, they just want it to be their form instead of the old form.
I have zero faith that any system set up by an alliance involving the Chinese communist party would result in a fair, or better, world order. It would only be even less accountable to its citizens than the already corrupt current model.
The only thing that has thrown that mindset for a loop with me is Taiwan and Ukraine, both globalist supported countries on the doorstep of each nation. If China was to start taking Taiwan I really don't think we'd stop them like Ukraine/Hong Kong with COVID.
So the Wests mess is just an illusion? The West is being watched by CIA etc and the censoring is horrendous but we keep hawking back to China/Russia/Iran etc. While we might look down our noses at Communism (and Russia is not Communist) what these SOVEREIGN nations have might be different, but the judiciary, political class on all sides, the CEOs of media companies as well as their social media platforms in America are criminal. What they have done to the American public is beyond dystopian. And we condemn these Sovereign nations? We need to understand where we are heading and Putin at this moment in time is more of a leader than any leader on earth. No wonder thousands are applying to move there. You can apply if you want to. My suggestion. Keep the application handy, in 6 months you might have different thoughts as America collapses under the weight of corruption.
☝️ Guys, please do not downvote comments you disagree with. ☝️
Wrong or right, this is a plausible theory. Downvote tards, and deport worst of the worst! Thanks for understanding.
I disagree with this comment
(laughs incessantly)
Sorry, I just had to troll.
Yes! As much as I may disagree with someone, one of the best aspects of this forum is mature debate. It can't become an echo chamber because then it's just the flippity-flop of Twit.
Yeah, ya see I want the operations over there to be good thing too, but I have to be realistic about there being other (possibly more likely) possibilities here.
Seems like every time you question Putin's intentions people get really mad. I'm not sure if it's because people instantly assume you're a low info leftist (I could get that) or because they are totally convinced that his efforts are secretly to uproot the deep state, which would be a great thing but it's foolish not to consider other possibilities in lieu of hard supporting evidence. I get that it's less comfortable to people than believing that a Russian dictator is teaming up with a Chinese communist dictator, but we were taught to think, not just blindly accept.