Freemasonry is a secret society.
All secret societies are satanic.
Freemasonry is the most well known secret society.
Freemasonry itself is a satanic organization, even if some of the Freemasons seem otherwise like "good guys."
Here is an overview of Freemasonry:
Secret Societies aren't inherently Satanic, but they are predisposed to fall to Satanism.
Anything done in secret eventually gets taken over by Evil in secret. With no one having the knowledge to stop the corruption, how could you possibly hope to persist when so many wish to take over your organization and steer it off a cliff?
No... Secret Societies aren't Evil by nature, just like driving your car backwards isn't necessarily Evil. Sure, you might be able to get away with it for a while, and you might even be good at it, but eventually you'll crash ass-backwards.
If what you do has to be obscured from the masses, no matter if it is honestly altruistic or not, you're just begging for Satan to come along and take advantage of your pride.
As for Freemasonry in particular... All Secret Societies espouse the Hidden Truth of the world, otherwise people wouldn't see enough value to bother joining and doing all the weird rituals to begin with. They do, however, eventually pervert the Truth with lies and take advantage of the trust they build with their members.
TL;DR: Secret Societies don't have Checks and Balances because they are secretive. Therefore, they will always be completely vulnerable to corruption from within, and have no backing from The People to weed out said corruption.
Long ago, I joined Rosicrucians by mail. Their booklets taught witchcraft, even before I knew what witchcraft was. I stopped and threw the booklets in the garbage. It is not something to be messed with.
Did they actually teach witchcraft, or esoteric Christianity? Groups who taught of the spiritual gifts of Christianity have been persecuted throughout history. They were tortured, etc. This drove them underground to safeguard the Truth of Christianity.
Satanic groups calling themselves Christians have hidden this knowledge. This knowledge is what the world needs now. Fearing it is to play into their hands.
Esoteric Christianity is not Christianity. Those groups that you mentioned were persecuted because they taught “spiritualistic” practices that are not taught in Scripture, and 99% of the time this leads to Gnosticism, contact with demons, or general heresy.
The Bible contains everything you need regarding spiritual warfare. Appealing to external esoteric teachings is only going to bring trouble.
Everything in the Bible is esoteric. How do you think John saw what he saw?
Do you think you're not in contact with demons? Spirits interact with everyone and everything. Some people choose to be conscious of this and to face their demons.
The Bible is a very mysterious book. It teaches much more than people realize. You can't appeal to the Bible to back up your points without citing particular verses. Each verse can be taken many ways.
Spiritual does not equal esoteric
Esoteric definition: intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest.
The Bible is written so as to be easily understood by its readers. Sometimes some of the prophetic books are initially confusing, but applying common sense and letting the Bible interpret itself will bring understanding. It’s not written to confuse people, and it’s not written to be only decipherable by clergy.
John saw what he saw because it was revealed to him by God, not because he followed occult traditions of men. Spirits might interact with humans, but it is difficult to ascertain to what extent. And I have no contact with demons because I have the Holy Spirit in me and I, to the best of my ability, eschew sin and follow Christ.
The Bible does contain a lot more than most realize, but that is due to lack of familiarity and diligent study, not due to the Bible having hidden messages or codes. As for each verse being taken many ways:
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:19-21 KJV
People disagree endlessly about Bible verses. If you think one party has the true meaning and all others are incorrect, then it would make sense for you to think there's nothing esoteric about it.
But personally, I can open the Bible to any page and put my finger just about anywhere and find a line that I'm not confident that I understand. Many people have studied it diligently their whole lives and still have unanswered questions. Why? Because it's definitively esoteric.
You mention heresy. It appears once in the KJV.
"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets..."
This is not the only mention of heresy in the Bible.
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” 2 Peter 2:1 KJV
And the passage you quote is Paul defending himself before Felix, where Paul is saying that the Jews consider him a heretic because Paul asserts the divinity of Christ and His bodily resurrection. Jews thinking that you’re a heretic doesn’t mean anything.
Has a Christian ever falsely accused someone of heresy? Jew, Christian or other, no man's testimony of heresy is of any value.
Did it teach spells (curses on people or rituals for favors) specifically, or were they just symbolic mumbo-jumbo?
I saw some AMORC (Rosicrucian) neophyte manuals and it was excercises to develop aura seeing ability and communicating with the mind amongst other things
Contacting evil spirits. Please stop defending satanism. It leads to being hellbound.
Where have I defended Satanism?
Understanding symbols and nature are one thing, but what you describe is necromancy, and I certainly don't condone it.
That said, I've read Satanic Grimoires before. All the fluff and "eye of newt" junk is make believe. Real witchcraft feels like an instruction manual on how to be a sleazy lawyer or crooked used car salesman.
I wouldn't know what real Satanism was if I assumed it was just hocus pocus. In reality, it's a cold and dirty thing. When reading real Satanic works, you feel like a demon's cold paws are clawing at your spine. I don't advise anyone to endure what I have, so it's best to steer clear of all of it on the off chance a toy manual might let slip some of the real stuff...
So, don't expect me to link to any of 'em.
Not everyone can read the real stuff and get away unscathed and untempted to use those "lessons" it provides. Luckily for me, I'm lazy and lack all ambition to begin with, so I'm effectively immune from the temptation to use the Grimoires. I'm a specialty case, because my Love is the Truth, not Power -- which is all those power-hungry books are written for anyways.
They're useless to me other than the novelty of it all...
This video will tell you all about Freemasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLA-iejhwek&list=WL&index=41&t=25s
FreeMasonry isn't particularly secret either, you can find more about it online than you could by joining ffs.
Are you a Freemason?
I've made no secret of it, pun intended :)
Careful... This isn't a specifically Q-related subject, is highly controversial and conspiratorial, and the mods might ban-hammer you...
Haven't you heard? All talk of conspiracies belongs over at conspiracies.win now. - - - - - - > that way.
/s/ freaking mods... Everything in this space is a conspiracy theory, but only select ones that the mods agree with pass the smell test.
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Thank you for the warning. I have seen some threads on FM and many people seem confused about it. Thus the controversy. However, FM is part of the Q conspiracy to "rule the world." All kinds of politicians are members and flash the gestures. Staying out of those groups is a no-brainer for me. Even in Japan, people know that leaders are FMs. The pyramid, the hierarchy, various organizations--all tied together. We are all just serfs at the bottom. Seeing as how this topic is apparently verboten, I`ll simply refrain from FM comments for the foreseeable future. However, there's only one True King in this universe, and it ain't the FM's Lucifer.
Close.
Satanic societies are the mirror inverse of Luciferic societies. The Freemasons are Luciferic.
Luciferic spirits are pro-freedom. They're so pro-freedom that they want people to spiritualize (become eternal beings), without submitting to Christ and to God's hierarchies in the Heavens. They want you to become an individual and thus attain a "self," but then to lose yourself in falsehoods.
Satanic spirits want souls. They do not want people to become individuals. Instead, they want people to identify as members of groups.
Wat?
Some churches are persecuted and have to meet "underground." Christian faith in itself is not a secret society.
When you reach the higher degrees of Freemasonry you are openly told the god of Freemasonry is Lucifer, the devil.
Christians should not join secret societies.
Here is a list of some other secret societies:
Rosicrucians Knights Templar Skull and Bones Shriners Rotary Kiwanis Moose Lodge More
The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society.
Why should Christians dwell in secrecy? A Christian knows his enemy, a Christian is confident in salvation.
This board is about a secret group of people and their secret plan.
Wat?
I pointed out that this board is literally about a secret plan carried out by secret members in response to your saying secrecy is inherently repugnant.
You said neither Q nor the plan are secret, then you used an example of keeping chess moves a secret from your opponent and called me a glowtard.
Be civil.