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(May 17, 2021) Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. | Luke Smith (www.youtube.com)
posted 3 years ago by CoolAsACucumber 3 years ago by CoolAsACucumber +30 / -0
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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

(May 17, 2021) Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. | Luke Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBTsUVrCDAQ

A small minority has been telling the retards to stop using Telegram for quite awhile now.

The majority take convenience over privacy & security.

Use instead:

  • Element

  • Signal

  • Session

  • Jami

  • Jitsi

  • Briar

And several others here

https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-messaging/

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– Mar-0 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ain't that the truth. We are probably doomed to be the minority forever.

People whine at me when I explain GPG is the best bet for authentication too.

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I haven't gone tat deep into opsec but this is good info to know!

A Practical Guide to GPG Part 1: Generate Your Public/Private Key Pair

https://www.linuxbabe.com/security/a-practical-guide-to-gpg-part-1-generate-your-keypair

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– qwhyamihere 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If looking for good OS

https://tails.boum.org/

Have fun.

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– Mar-0 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Any Linux distribution besides Ubuntu (who was caught capturing and sending desktop search bar activity to crapathon (Amazon)) is good, but I recomend people try to steer clear of ones that use soystemd (SystemD) because it is going the massivesuckage (Microsoft) route of trying to get its fingers into everything for no good reason.

The first Q&A on Artix' page gives part of the situation on soystemd: https://artixlinux.org/faq.php

Oh and Snapd. Stay FAR away from that because it is proprietary and controlled by Canonical (Ubuntu).

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– qwhyamihere 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I recall rumblins about systemd being soyed into oblivion. Did a search and found this.

https://heads.dyne.org/about.html

I will have some homework for tonight.

Thanks for the info.

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– logos_ftw 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

In general, I would avoid anything that steers their users into using a smartphone app. There is a lot of data collection going on there, and ethical companies have no excuse to not support the universal web browser. Signal is lower on my list for that reason, although it does seem to have better acceptance by non-tech people.

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– Kekeveli777 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I use signal alongside telegram. To say that signal is safer is also suspect.

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The code is open source, its been audited several times, your messages are end-to-end encrypted. It is safer than Telegram.

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– Emyrylde 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Anyone have any experience with this one? https://getsession.org/

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It is a fork from Signal that allows more privacy such as not requiring a phone number and using an encryption key as your identifier for other people to message a decrypt your devices. The best of the lot imo but one of the least used.

Here is their litepaper summary

https://getsession.org/lightpaper

Here is their more detailed whitepaper

https://getsession.org/whitepaper

Here is some technical documentation

https://docs.oxen.io/products-built-on-oxen/session

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– kula 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Very helpful. Matrix, XMPP here I come. I guess this is the cryptic 'poisoning' Gregg Phillips was on about.

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– LordKekingtonEsquire 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Interesting how this all comes out 2 weeks before midterms.

Psyops are a hell of a concept.

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ive never been a fan of telegram but the general public is pretty stupid and doesn't research what they use at all.

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– Pbman2 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Good one.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you.

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's not 0% for me since I don't know much about him but what he says about Telegram security & privacy is true from what I have researched myself (I encourage you to do the same as well).

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– Kekeveli777 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I know its not a super safe chat. But it takes money away from cuckerberg and thats good enough for me.

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Telegram is monitoring and selling your data to be used against you. Whether the money goes zuckcuck or telegram, the end result is the same against you.

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– Kekeveli777 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Were mostly all in that boat. If you want more adoption to safe alternatives you should list that in this thread.

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just did it, thanks for the suggestion!

https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6SrRrOR/x/c/4OeznXOBWap

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– onetimeuser 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Have been on element for much longer than telegram but I have picked up telegram to be apart of some particular chat groups that don't exist anywhere else yet

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– CoolAsACucumber [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah I understand. The problem is there needs to be a way to put in fake phone number that doesn't trace back to you.

Online VoIP numbers haven't worked for me when signing up to telegram.

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