Can you imagine having a lot of pets or disabled dependents and having to evacuate like that? Must be terrible. I hope their homes are not destroyed or defiled.
OMG imagine having livestock in the area.
I'm going to watch Kherson like a hawk. There's a dam upstream. Someone could blow it for strategic reasons.
Of course the Russians would be blamed, one of the reasons the Azov get away with murder. Everyone is conditioned to blame the Russians and disbelieve in a surviving nazi force. Still flooding the enemy is a time-honored action.
They were blamed for the MH17 shootdown too, the missile subtype and serial was ukrainian as was the tower that diverted that plane and the fighter plane that shot up the cockpit. Kolomoiskyy did that IMO.
The Russians might conceivably blow the dam if there are only NATO troops in the way, but probably not, they would have to fix it afterwards.
They can take their pets. And the disabled are being well looked after. Russia would have this under control. I’m afraid most of the buildings COULD be destroyed but we must remember, these people have been living under these terrorists bombings for 9 years. Many have lived in underground bunkers. They have been waiting for their liberators for this whole time. In the liberated areas of Mariupol, it is amazing to see Russian Military Engineers rebuilding the homes. The moment the enemy was driven out and the area made safe, the bulldozers moved in. Then the form work, the footings, then the frame and next the roofs were going on. Beautiful apartments for those that had suffered for years. If you had a large family, or medical, police or fire personnel, then vets and military and disabled, were given the keys to their brand new apartments full of white goods etc. for FREE.
Hundreds of apartments are going up. They overlook a gym courtyard with children's playground next and at the same time baby clinics and medical centres complete with modern equipment have gone up. Putin realised years ago that the enemy would embed themselves in the population and those homes left would be destroyed or trashed by those AZOV fighters and Ukrainian/NATO forces eventually. This was all planned. The homes, the materials, the manpower etc. It’s interesting when you think that Trump wanted to use the Army Corp of Engineers to build the wall. Putin has Russia’s equivalent to do just that.
Because the Ukraine Military are bombing them and many have been killed. The Ukraine/AZOV imbed themselves in the homes and use the people as meat shields. The Kherson area is where the referenda was held and 90% of the people voted to go back to Russia after the area was taken in 2014/2015 under the Minsk Accord. Ukraine, France and Germany who signed the Accord, with Russia as witness pledged that the Donbas area would be autonomous, be able to speak Russian, follow their Russian Orthodox faith, teach Russian culture etc. Russia believed these countries would honour the Accord but no sooner after it was signed then the AZOV battalion was formed. Since 2015, 16,000 Russians have been systematically killed. Rape torture, farms have been plundered, they have been kidnapped or jailed just for speaking Russian happened every day.
France and Germany remained silent but Putin bought it up at the UN many times etc but he was ignored. This is one of 4 areas that voted overwhelmingly to return to Russia. These people after 9 years are finally back under the protection of Russia. It was thought with the final push coming by NATO (USA) supplied troops - the French army were spotted there among the people disguised as citizens a day or so ago) against Russia protecting their people, it was felt by Russia safer for the people to move them across the Dneiper River to safety.
I believe the Russians hold the area at the moment and the Ukrainians really want it for optical and strategic reasons so the Russians are preparing the ground so they can strike heavily without killing civilians or they can fight fiercely without endangering civilians.
There is a dam (hydroelectric?) upstream which someone could blow for strategic reasons which would cause a flood in the area which has been evacuated. Looks like the Russians don't want civilians in the way of that eventuality, they would get the blame.
The people of Kherson overwhelmingly voted only a couple of weeks ago to come back under the protection of Russia. This is and always was RUSSIAN land. Russia is taking back what is rightly theirs. The Minsk Accords for the People in the Donbas as well as Kherson and Zaporozhye were NEVER honoured back in 2015. Since 2015, 16,000 Russian speaking people in these Donbas areas have been killed by AZOV and Ukrainian Military.
That’s fine - lots of newbies seeking answers to what is happening. It’s hard for them as they have been lied to and while I do get impatient because we have been seeing it for decades, we were once there. I try to give a background as to why this SMO happened. People are being told ‘Putin invaded Ukraine’ but they don’t say why. This war didn’t start on 24 February 2022, this started the day after Ukraine, France and Germany failed these people in the Donbas by trashing the Minsk Accord by killing the Donbas Russian speaking people. There is no other way to explain it.
Have you watched Patrick Lancaster? Patrick is an American, married to a Russian and they have two children and have lived in Ukraine for quite awhile. He is an Independent Journalist who reports on war in the European part of the world. His video of the early stages of the SMO are eye opening. He embedded with the people of the Donbas and with his cameraman, interviewed many, many of these people. Ytube has removed most but rumble and Bitchute have his videos. Be warned though. Some are raw with mutilated bodies and sad videos of family members that have just seen their love ones killed and are still lying in backyard. The interviews given by medical workers from their local hospital as well as school teachers were horrific.
Yes, I've seen some of Patrick Lancaster's videos. He is very brave.
I'm not going to forget the woman's body with the Swastika carved into it which was lying in the Ukraine fighter's abandoned quarters.
I've been watching the Ukraine situation via thesaker and Southfront since it started in '14. I saw lots of footage taken by the fighters of the DNR as they repelled the Ukrainian paramilitary punisher batallions back in '14 and '15.
I followed the battle of the Donetsk airport, and the battle of Debaltsevo as they happened.
When you see all of that stuff and the many images of murdered civilians including women and children, you cannot believe what the MSM tells you any more.
It's so frustrating talking to glassy eyed normies about it.
Things overnight are certainly heating up in Ukraine. While many slam Telegram, I do source info on the SMO from there. I read IntelSlavaZ as well as Intel Republic and WarGonzo and others. I know there is a concern by Greg Phillips re Telegram but I have been following politics for decades and to reject one area where the news I get is current and can be verified by other sources etc. is just silly. If the source becomes suss, I seek further info. It’s fluid. Someone is getting those videos and pics from someone on the frontline or someone close to the source. Another I read or listen to is The New Atlas. Redacted are getting their act together too. Great talking with you.
Can you imagine having a lot of pets or disabled dependents and having to evacuate like that? Must be terrible. I hope their homes are not destroyed or defiled. OMG imagine having livestock in the area.
I'm going to watch Kherson like a hawk. There's a dam upstream. Someone could blow it for strategic reasons.
Biggest thing so far in this war?
InB4 "watch the water." But seriously that would be the sort of nasty trick the nazis would pull, flood the city.
I think ti's not the city which got evacuated, just the right bank of the river.
Any flood would be blamed on the Russians, whoever did it.
Of course the Russians would be blamed, one of the reasons the Azov get away with murder. Everyone is conditioned to blame the Russians and disbelieve in a surviving nazi force. Still flooding the enemy is a time-honored action.
They were blamed for the MH17 shootdown too, the missile subtype and serial was ukrainian as was the tower that diverted that plane and the fighter plane that shot up the cockpit. Kolomoiskyy did that IMO.
The Russians might conceivably blow the dam if there are only NATO troops in the way, but probably not, they would have to fix it afterwards.
They can take their pets. And the disabled are being well looked after. Russia would have this under control. I’m afraid most of the buildings COULD be destroyed but we must remember, these people have been living under these terrorists bombings for 9 years. Many have lived in underground bunkers. They have been waiting for their liberators for this whole time. In the liberated areas of Mariupol, it is amazing to see Russian Military Engineers rebuilding the homes. The moment the enemy was driven out and the area made safe, the bulldozers moved in. Then the form work, the footings, then the frame and next the roofs were going on. Beautiful apartments for those that had suffered for years. If you had a large family, or medical, police or fire personnel, then vets and military and disabled, were given the keys to their brand new apartments full of white goods etc. for FREE.
Hundreds of apartments are going up. They overlook a gym courtyard with children's playground next and at the same time baby clinics and medical centres complete with modern equipment have gone up. Putin realised years ago that the enemy would embed themselves in the population and those homes left would be destroyed or trashed by those AZOV fighters and Ukrainian/NATO forces eventually. This was all planned. The homes, the materials, the manpower etc. It’s interesting when you think that Trump wanted to use the Army Corp of Engineers to build the wall. Putin has Russia’s equivalent to do just that.
Why are they being evacuated?
Because the Ukraine Military are bombing them and many have been killed. The Ukraine/AZOV imbed themselves in the homes and use the people as meat shields. The Kherson area is where the referenda was held and 90% of the people voted to go back to Russia after the area was taken in 2014/2015 under the Minsk Accord. Ukraine, France and Germany who signed the Accord, with Russia as witness pledged that the Donbas area would be autonomous, be able to speak Russian, follow their Russian Orthodox faith, teach Russian culture etc. Russia believed these countries would honour the Accord but no sooner after it was signed then the AZOV battalion was formed. Since 2015, 16,000 Russians have been systematically killed. Rape torture, farms have been plundered, they have been kidnapped or jailed just for speaking Russian happened every day.
France and Germany remained silent but Putin bought it up at the UN many times etc but he was ignored. This is one of 4 areas that voted overwhelmingly to return to Russia. These people after 9 years are finally back under the protection of Russia. It was thought with the final push coming by NATO (USA) supplied troops - the French army were spotted there among the people disguised as citizens a day or so ago) against Russia protecting their people, it was felt by Russia safer for the people to move them across the Dneiper River to safety.
That's for them to know and us to find out.
Two clear possible reasons.
I believe the Russians hold the area at the moment and the Ukrainians really want it for optical and strategic reasons so the Russians are preparing the ground so they can strike heavily without killing civilians or they can fight fiercely without endangering civilians.
There is a dam (hydroelectric?) upstream which someone could blow for strategic reasons which would cause a flood in the area which has been evacuated. Looks like the Russians don't want civilians in the way of that eventuality, they would get the blame.
The people of Kherson overwhelmingly voted only a couple of weeks ago to come back under the protection of Russia. This is and always was RUSSIAN land. Russia is taking back what is rightly theirs. The Minsk Accords for the People in the Donbas as well as Kherson and Zaporozhye were NEVER honoured back in 2015. Since 2015, 16,000 Russian speaking people in these Donbas areas have been killed by AZOV and Ukrainian Military.
Yes, I didn't mean to imply otherwise at all. I'm just talking about the military strategy.
That’s fine - lots of newbies seeking answers to what is happening. It’s hard for them as they have been lied to and while I do get impatient because we have been seeing it for decades, we were once there. I try to give a background as to why this SMO happened. People are being told ‘Putin invaded Ukraine’ but they don’t say why. This war didn’t start on 24 February 2022, this started the day after Ukraine, France and Germany failed these people in the Donbas by trashing the Minsk Accord by killing the Donbas Russian speaking people. There is no other way to explain it.
Have you watched Patrick Lancaster? Patrick is an American, married to a Russian and they have two children and have lived in Ukraine for quite awhile. He is an Independent Journalist who reports on war in the European part of the world. His video of the early stages of the SMO are eye opening. He embedded with the people of the Donbas and with his cameraman, interviewed many, many of these people. Ytube has removed most but rumble and Bitchute have his videos. Be warned though. Some are raw with mutilated bodies and sad videos of family members that have just seen their love ones killed and are still lying in backyard. The interviews given by medical workers from their local hospital as well as school teachers were horrific.
Yes, I've seen some of Patrick Lancaster's videos. He is very brave. I'm not going to forget the woman's body with the Swastika carved into it which was lying in the Ukraine fighter's abandoned quarters.
I've been watching the Ukraine situation via thesaker and Southfront since it started in '14. I saw lots of footage taken by the fighters of the DNR as they repelled the Ukrainian paramilitary punisher batallions back in '14 and '15.
I followed the battle of the Donetsk airport, and the battle of Debaltsevo as they happened.
When you see all of that stuff and the many images of murdered civilians including women and children, you cannot believe what the MSM tells you any more.
It's so frustrating talking to glassy eyed normies about it.
Me and you and lots of others here, we know.
Things overnight are certainly heating up in Ukraine. While many slam Telegram, I do source info on the SMO from there. I read IntelSlavaZ as well as Intel Republic and WarGonzo and others. I know there is a concern by Greg Phillips re Telegram but I have been following politics for decades and to reject one area where the news I get is current and can be verified by other sources etc. is just silly. If the source becomes suss, I seek further info. It’s fluid. Someone is getting those videos and pics from someone on the frontline or someone close to the source. Another I read or listen to is The New Atlas. Redacted are getting their act together too. Great talking with you.
You too, you do really solid posts and comments. It takes energy doesn't it!
I never got into telegram because I never got into smartphones. I retreated from the field of battle.
Interesting. I didn’t know about this. I’ll keep an eye on it. Thanks for the heads up fren.