If you think we don't need a unifying force when conservatives are the most individualist people in the world, then you should get used to losing.
Trump unified conservatives and classical liberals and wiped the floor with the left in 2016 despite an incredible propaganda machine that is worse than any before it, and then came back and forced them to cheat so outwardly that only fools believe it was a legitimate election.
You can only pull the numbers Trump does by being a unifying force.
Trump unified MAGA conservatives and pushes all the RINOs out. He didn't "unify all people calling themselves conservatives". You're just making shit up because you are a DeSantis supporter for some suspiciously inexplicable reason.
Who gives a fuck about Jeb or Ron? I'm sorry you guys can't produce an actual MAGA candidate, sucks for you. I guess that's what trying to unify with RINOs gets you - more RINOs.
The point is that real conservatives shouldn't unite with RINOs. That's actually how we lost 2020 (Pence). It's not about Jeb or what he could do. Jeb and DeSantis actually campaign for each other. You've got RINOs campaigning for RINOs. How does it help for MAGA peeps to unite with DeSantis when DeSantis is trying to hijack the whole movement?
Conservatives are not "the most individualist people in the world", we're actually united with each other. You're just throwing out random words that you think will support your point, but think about what you say before you speak. I disagree with your views on conservatives, and DeSantis and the people you want us to unite with are not real conservatives.
You should absolutely care about the other people we have as options moving forward after 2024.
The point is that real conservatives shouldn't unite with RINOs. That's actually how we lost 2024 (Pence).
Are you being a dimwit? I'm talking about uniting the voter base, not politicians. Trump is a unifying force for voters, due to his charisma, blunt honesty and transparent record of integrity. We do not have any other people for a time after Trump right now.
Conservatives are not "the most individualist people in the world", we're actually united with each other. You're just throwing out random words that you think will support your point, but think about what you say before you speak.
So.. you're retarded. Okay. You could have said that from the start, that would have been a lot easier.
Conservatives have trouble unifying behind a candidate and have very different preferences for what they will vote for. We are far more complex than the left, who will vote exclusively on party lines for single issues.
Conservatives are split between a lot of different ideologies, and we source our base from far more than the US left does. That requires someone to unify, or else the vote is split like 4 different directions. Conservatives are also more likely to vote across the aisle, a la Obama in 2008.
If you don't understand how variable the conservative base is compared to the left, I would go research how varied conservatives tend to vote, how our track record falls right in line with the "don't bother me and I will keep my head down" stereotype we are known for, and then compare that to the Trump era where we got our asses out and got excited, riled up and involved because of Trump.
Trump's energy inspires this base like not even the tea party did. He reignited the American flames in our blood, and he carried that flame to people who don't even have that American blood or heritage.
Even Ron Paul couldn't do that, and he's one of the most clean, stable and is of the highest of integrities that we've ever seen in a candidate. But he didn't have Trump's energy to beat everything back.
To say we have been united as strongly as we are now under Trump would be a hilarious lie full of such denialism it'd actually bring me to tears from laughing.
We can't even always agree on core issues.
Edit: Lol you downvoted immediately after I posted. You will not argue your point with any point of good faith, because you don't want to be challenged to defend your points. And we say, buh bye. Not worth my time to continue engaging with someone who doesn't want to sit down and chat.
If Ron were not working with the Deep State to steal Trump's nomination then all the Fox News addicts (the only actual conservatives who think Ron is better than Trump) would only be Trump supporters. The best way to keep conservatives united is not to confuse them by supporting RINOs. We don't need a "second option".
We don't need "unifying forces". Anyone who's down with RINOs can go fuck their gay selves.
If you think we don't need a unifying force when conservatives are the most individualist people in the world, then you should get used to losing.
Trump unified conservatives and classical liberals and wiped the floor with the left in 2016 despite an incredible propaganda machine that is worse than any before it, and then came back and forced them to cheat so outwardly that only fools believe it was a legitimate election.
You can only pull the numbers Trump does by being a unifying force.
You think Jeb could do that?
Trump unified MAGA conservatives and pushes all the RINOs out. He didn't "unify all people calling themselves conservatives". You're just making shit up because you are a DeSantis supporter for some suspiciously inexplicable reason.
I love our gov
Something tells me any reason I could give would be labeled suspiciously inexplicable
Who gives a fuck about Jeb or Ron? I'm sorry you guys can't produce an actual MAGA candidate, sucks for you. I guess that's what trying to unify with RINOs gets you - more RINOs.
The point is that real conservatives shouldn't unite with RINOs. That's actually how we lost 2020 (Pence). It's not about Jeb or what he could do. Jeb and DeSantis actually campaign for each other. You've got RINOs campaigning for RINOs. How does it help for MAGA peeps to unite with DeSantis when DeSantis is trying to hijack the whole movement?
Conservatives are not "the most individualist people in the world", we're actually united with each other. You're just throwing out random words that you think will support your point, but think about what you say before you speak. I disagree with your views on conservatives, and DeSantis and the people you want us to unite with are not real conservatives.
You should absolutely care about the other people we have as options moving forward after 2024.
Are you being a dimwit? I'm talking about uniting the voter base, not politicians. Trump is a unifying force for voters, due to his charisma, blunt honesty and transparent record of integrity. We do not have any other people for a time after Trump right now.
So.. you're retarded. Okay. You could have said that from the start, that would have been a lot easier.
Conservatives have trouble unifying behind a candidate and have very different preferences for what they will vote for. We are far more complex than the left, who will vote exclusively on party lines for single issues.
Conservatives are split between a lot of different ideologies, and we source our base from far more than the US left does. That requires someone to unify, or else the vote is split like 4 different directions. Conservatives are also more likely to vote across the aisle, a la Obama in 2008.
If you don't understand how variable the conservative base is compared to the left, I would go research how varied conservatives tend to vote, how our track record falls right in line with the "don't bother me and I will keep my head down" stereotype we are known for, and then compare that to the Trump era where we got our asses out and got excited, riled up and involved because of Trump.
Trump's energy inspires this base like not even the tea party did. He reignited the American flames in our blood, and he carried that flame to people who don't even have that American blood or heritage.
Even Ron Paul couldn't do that, and he's one of the most clean, stable and is of the highest of integrities that we've ever seen in a candidate. But he didn't have Trump's energy to beat everything back.
To say we have been united as strongly as we are now under Trump would be a hilarious lie full of such denialism it'd actually bring me to tears from laughing.
We can't even always agree on core issues.
Edit: Lol you downvoted immediately after I posted. You will not argue your point with any point of good faith, because you don't want to be challenged to defend your points. And we say, buh bye. Not worth my time to continue engaging with someone who doesn't want to sit down and chat.
If Ron were not working with the Deep State to steal Trump's nomination then all the Fox News addicts (the only actual conservatives who think Ron is better than Trump) would only be Trump supporters. The best way to keep conservatives united is not to confuse them by supporting RINOs. We don't need a "second option".
Trump said vote for the RINOS anyway, we'll deal with them later
Seems reasonable to go along with his judgment, which has been highly astute all along