I don't have the time or patience to go into this in detail, so I will simply explain why I think you don't know what you are talking about.
Re "Hogan's Heroes," the reason this was not off-limits and NOT an offense to Jews is that it pertained to Prisoner-Of-War camps run by the German Army---NOT Jewish extermination centers run by the SS. You cannot understand the difference between the two kinds of detention facilities.
As for when people knew about Jewish deaths, it was as early as 1942 by a report from the Polish government-in-exile to the government of Great Britain. The information was held during the war to prevent the war from becoming a cause celebre that might irritate anti-semitic allies. Afterward, it was the outcome of the war crimes trials. I learned about it when I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s. It was established history by the 1970s.
The Jews were killed by a multitude of ways: gas chambers, labor camps, death marches, being shot en masse, etc. Facilities and methods were usually meticulously documented by the Germans (a national trait). You show disdain for the 6 million estimate of deaths, but seem not to be aware that this is taken from Adolf Eichmann in a comment he made to an underling. It was not a Jewish invention. Serious research seems to indicate it was at least between 5 and 6 million.
There is too much evidence, too many bodies, and too much testimony to deny this horrendous crime. There were plenty of Jews in conquered Russia that you do not count. For those who think the number is "too large," I would point out that the annual number of abortions in the U.S. is about 600,000, with no particular sense of urgency or a policy forcing it on anyone. That would be 6 million in 10 years. The German program was about 3 years with significant resources in men, materiel, and methods. In roughly that period, the Nazi reich inflicted about 11 million deaths on Russian armed forces alone. So don't tell me it couldn't be done. World War II was a bloodbath.
The bodies simply aren't there, though. Many, many non Jews were killed and subsumed into the big number, but physically, by the constructions they had and documented, they could not have killed and buried or incinerated the numbers being claimed. And poison gas chambers simply don't work with leaky wooden doors right next to hospitals and barracks. Would be a fatally bad design, right?
Gas chambers were not the only causes of death. If you think that way, you don't grasp the reality of the situation. Toward the end, the SS attempted to destroy the evidence by pulling down buildings and demolishing gas chambers. Mass graves were dug up and burned.
Tell you what: you go back to the evidence presented at the Nuremberg Trials and death camp trials and come up with the right numbers. And debunk all the other research while you are at it. The bodies were there---in profusion. Altogether in World War II, 61million were killed. Where are the bodies? We don't ask such stupid questions.
Other historians claim the reason there is zero documentation by the germans of the holocaust is because they destroyed everything when they began losing the war. I recently watched a jewish documentary where they made this claim.
Yes, you need a lecture because you are ignorant. Like that nonsense about "Hogan's Heroes." Or that nobody was aware of the Holocaust before 1970. You don't lead with howlers and expect to be taken seriously.
The only "dots" you are "connecting" are imaginary. Which is why people like you are called "dotty."
That explains the discovery of the receipts for purchase of the large quantities of Zyklon B, right? How about the library of skills set aside by the SS? It was a mixed bag. It would have been rational clean-up to eliminate evidence, but not everything was eliminated.
It produces hydrogen cyanide upon reaction with water, which is equally lethal against human beings. It was used to kill 1.1 million Jews in the death camps. One of its creators, Bruno Tesch, was executed in 1946 for knowingly selling the compound to the SS for use on humans.
And do you have any reason to think the Jewish scholars are wrong?
I don't have the time or patience to go into this in detail, so I will simply explain why I think you don't know what you are talking about.
Re "Hogan's Heroes," the reason this was not off-limits and NOT an offense to Jews is that it pertained to Prisoner-Of-War camps run by the German Army---NOT Jewish extermination centers run by the SS. You cannot understand the difference between the two kinds of detention facilities.
As for when people knew about Jewish deaths, it was as early as 1942 by a report from the Polish government-in-exile to the government of Great Britain. The information was held during the war to prevent the war from becoming a cause celebre that might irritate anti-semitic allies. Afterward, it was the outcome of the war crimes trials. I learned about it when I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s. It was established history by the 1970s.
The Jews were killed by a multitude of ways: gas chambers, labor camps, death marches, being shot en masse, etc. Facilities and methods were usually meticulously documented by the Germans (a national trait). You show disdain for the 6 million estimate of deaths, but seem not to be aware that this is taken from Adolf Eichmann in a comment he made to an underling. It was not a Jewish invention. Serious research seems to indicate it was at least between 5 and 6 million.
There is too much evidence, too many bodies, and too much testimony to deny this horrendous crime. There were plenty of Jews in conquered Russia that you do not count. For those who think the number is "too large," I would point out that the annual number of abortions in the U.S. is about 600,000, with no particular sense of urgency or a policy forcing it on anyone. That would be 6 million in 10 years. The German program was about 3 years with significant resources in men, materiel, and methods. In roughly that period, the Nazi reich inflicted about 11 million deaths on Russian armed forces alone. So don't tell me it couldn't be done. World War II was a bloodbath.
The bodies simply aren't there, though. Many, many non Jews were killed and subsumed into the big number, but physically, by the constructions they had and documented, they could not have killed and buried or incinerated the numbers being claimed. And poison gas chambers simply don't work with leaky wooden doors right next to hospitals and barracks. Would be a fatally bad design, right?
Gas chambers were not the only causes of death. If you think that way, you don't grasp the reality of the situation. Toward the end, the SS attempted to destroy the evidence by pulling down buildings and demolishing gas chambers. Mass graves were dug up and burned.
Tell you what: you go back to the evidence presented at the Nuremberg Trials and death camp trials and come up with the right numbers. And debunk all the other research while you are at it. The bodies were there---in profusion. Altogether in World War II, 61million were killed. Where are the bodies? We don't ask such stupid questions.
Other historians claim the reason there is zero documentation by the germans of the holocaust is because they destroyed everything when they began losing the war. I recently watched a jewish documentary where they made this claim.
The reply above yours by the boomer is exactly what I would expect.
Comes here to lecture us on “established history” while failing to connect the dots of history being written by the victors.
Yes, you need a lecture because you are ignorant. Like that nonsense about "Hogan's Heroes." Or that nobody was aware of the Holocaust before 1970. You don't lead with howlers and expect to be taken seriously.
The only "dots" you are "connecting" are imaginary. Which is why people like you are called "dotty."
Please regurgitate more “facts” pumped through your 1950’s cathode ray tube TV absorbed by you while 10 years old.
That explains the discovery of the receipts for purchase of the large quantities of Zyklon B, right? How about the library of skills set aside by the SS? It was a mixed bag. It would have been rational clean-up to eliminate evidence, but not everything was eliminated.
Zyklon B was bought for delousing. But it’s not me saying all evidence was destroyed, it’s jewish scholars.
Here’s one: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000fjqk
It produces hydrogen cyanide upon reaction with water, which is equally lethal against human beings. It was used to kill 1.1 million Jews in the death camps. One of its creators, Bruno Tesch, was executed in 1946 for knowingly selling the compound to the SS for use on humans.
And do you have any reason to think the Jewish scholars are wrong?