How goes it Mahvelous Marvin, my "no virus" comrade in arms!!
I don't take that same "meaning" at all. I'm not making any moral judgments, just evaluating the words on their face.
To me it means what it says without adding anything else to it; you are free to do whatever you want irrespective of the moral benefits or consequences.
You don't have to be "God" to do whatever you want. You are able to "do as thou wilt" in any given moment, which is effectively "you have free will" as I see it. That's all.
Others on this thread have mentioned that a lot of these "esoteric" beliefs are not good or bad, but that thinking makes it so (quote from Shakespeare). Meaning, there are powers in the universe, and one can wield these powers for good or for evil. You decide.
Shakespeare and Bacon were possibly the same person. In light of Bacon's involvement in some of these societies, I consider Shakespeare's quote to be not coincidental.
Indeed and agreed. And to go even deeper, some say Bacon was an earlier soul incarnation of the one later known as St. Germain, and a later soul incarnation of one of the Roman guards who slayed Jesus.
Am I stretching ya too far? These are not popular "ideas" I realize...
I like your quote. I did not know Rumi. Sufi. I think those folks, the Zoroastrians and the Ahura Mazda folks are/were all much closer to God than the Hollow Men religions we have today. Leaning together, headpieces filled with straw.
The quote seems to following along the lines of Nietszche's "Beyond Good and Evil". And, in a way, like Søren Kierkegaard. Or even Tesla. "If one wishes to understand the Universe, one must learn to think in terms of frequency and vibration."
Yes indeed, agreed across the board on all counts. Yes, Rumi came up through the Sufi tradition. He was a very wise individual as evidenced by the quote.
I would put forth to you that all this is pointing to the "Witness for God" idea in biblical scripture. While there are zillions of different ways to interpret this idea, I believe it implies taking the position of a "Neutral observer" in life. In other words, stepping outside of JUDGMENT, which is, in effect NOT "eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, as this is the very definition of JUDGMENT --- assigning a positive/negative charge to a person, place, thing, event, etc. An act that BINDS us to the material realm.
Thus, to "witness" is to look on to a person, place, thing while reserving one's judgment.
Whadaya think? Not a popular idea in mainstream circles I realize...
And then there’s others on here who know who about people like Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey and about their fun little clubs like the theosophical society and the esalen institute. We understand the creation of the melting pot of esoteric religions and mysticism through the emergence of the plethora of new age spiritualism choices that they created to trick naive people into joining their lucifarian intentions without realizing that the ideas and philosophies they adhere to were created and disseminated by lucifarians.
How goes it Mahvelous Marvin, my "no virus" comrade in arms!!
I don't take that same "meaning" at all. I'm not making any moral judgments, just evaluating the words on their face.
To me it means what it says without adding anything else to it; you are free to do whatever you want irrespective of the moral benefits or consequences.
You don't have to be "God" to do whatever you want. You are able to "do as thou wilt" in any given moment, which is effectively "you have free will" as I see it. That's all.
Others on this thread have mentioned that a lot of these "esoteric" beliefs are not good or bad, but that thinking makes it so (quote from Shakespeare). Meaning, there are powers in the universe, and one can wield these powers for good or for evil. You decide.
Indeed. One of my favorite quotes. Hard for most to come to terms with.
Here's another: "Out beyond the realm of right-doing and wrong-doing there's a field; I'll meet you there" - Rumi
Shakespeare and Bacon were possibly the same person. In light of Bacon's involvement in some of these societies, I consider Shakespeare's quote to be not coincidental.
Indeed and agreed. And to go even deeper, some say Bacon was an earlier soul incarnation of the one later known as St. Germain, and a later soul incarnation of one of the Roman guards who slayed Jesus.
Am I stretching ya too far? These are not popular "ideas" I realize...
I like your quote. I did not know Rumi. Sufi. I think those folks, the Zoroastrians and the Ahura Mazda folks are/were all much closer to God than the Hollow Men religions we have today. Leaning together, headpieces filled with straw.
The quote seems to following along the lines of Nietszche's "Beyond Good and Evil". And, in a way, like Søren Kierkegaard. Or even Tesla. "If one wishes to understand the Universe, one must learn to think in terms of frequency and vibration."
Yes indeed, agreed across the board on all counts. Yes, Rumi came up through the Sufi tradition. He was a very wise individual as evidenced by the quote.
I would put forth to you that all this is pointing to the "Witness for God" idea in biblical scripture. While there are zillions of different ways to interpret this idea, I believe it implies taking the position of a "Neutral observer" in life. In other words, stepping outside of JUDGMENT, which is, in effect NOT "eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, as this is the very definition of JUDGMENT --- assigning a positive/negative charge to a person, place, thing, event, etc. An act that BINDS us to the material realm.
Thus, to "witness" is to look on to a person, place, thing while reserving one's judgment.
Whadaya think? Not a popular idea in mainstream circles I realize...
And then there’s others on here who know who about people like Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey and about their fun little clubs like the theosophical society and the esalen institute. We understand the creation of the melting pot of esoteric religions and mysticism through the emergence of the plethora of new age spiritualism choices that they created to trick naive people into joining their lucifarian intentions without realizing that the ideas and philosophies they adhere to were created and disseminated by lucifarians.
I'm not a joiner. And I do not seek "power". Only self-knowledge and self-control.
Blavatsky is interesting. Aleister Crowley just seems like a bounder.