it's because the product itself was WORLDS better than the BlackBerry.
You mean the marketing was.
iPhones have always been overrated and nothing more than expensive toys compared to their similar priced Android counterparts. They've tied people into their ecosystem because the majority of Apple users have no idea how to rip their iTunes music collection and put it on an SD card apparently.
In 2012, I purchased my first smart phone, a Samsung Galaxy Note II. It blew the iPhone 5 away. I could even hook up a controller to it with a USB OTG cable and play arcade and other emulated games on the go.
Agreed. Apple's iPhones are pieces of overpriced shit. My wife demanded to have one, the speaker broke in 6 months (no damage done), Apple replaced it. Then the mic on the 2nd phone broke (no damage done), Apple charged me to speak with them, and refused to replace it.
I tried backing up the data to buy a real, working phone (Android + Samsung) and it was encrypted. After 4 hours I finally managed to extract everything.
I took it outside, cherry bombed it with a metal baseball bat, and never looked back. Apple is a marketing gimmick company with shit quality products that only preserve market share due to how hard they make it to migrate to a better option.
"From 2017 and 2021, Apple barely hit 20% of the global smartphone market in annual sales, according to research data."
They are not some kind of untouchable titan in the industry. Android OS runs circles around iOS. Even domestically, it's less than 50% of the market, and we're hardcore Apple fanbois here in the US.
It's the next Blackberry and I hope someone disrupts the market in a big way. A StarLink phone w/o bloatware and an intelligent app marketplace would be an awesome alternative to have.
You can get an Android phone without the bloatware if you install a custom ROM with AOSP (Android Open Source Project) but you may run into conflicts with apps that relies on certain services and dependencies.
If you just want a bare-bone phone that will only do texting, emailing and some more (calling including), a custom ROM will do all of that and won't come with the bloatware.
we're hardcore Apple fanbois here in the US.
Outside of my social circle, I've seen a lot with an iPhone but the ones I know, don't have an iPhone. The ones who I know that owns an iPhone, are the ones who are naive, gullible and not so intelligent.
This is why I've always considered the iPhone more of a social status for the dummies. No offense to anyone on here who owns an iPhone but for me, it's very limited as if we're in a walled garden and I couldn't do much with it as far as customizing goes. Not even interested in jailbreaking an iPhone to unlock "features" that was already on an Android phone with the stock ROM. Plus it's always 2 years behind on everything. It took Apple forever to implement Bluetooth and NFC (I believe it has NFC now?)
That's why my first smart phone was the G1 and I loved it so much I kept buying Google's flagship phones. I would switch to a different OS/phone now that Google is a cucked company, but my options are limited here.
If Elon's new phone will be Android/Linux based, I will switch to it in a heartbeat, but if it will follow the same vein as the iPhone, no thanks.
That’s entirely fair, but just remember that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 was essentially a ripoff of the iPhone that came before it. Virtually every significant feature of that we now consider a “smartphone” was pioneered by the iPhone.
I don’t say that with any joy - I hope Android and other Apple competitors claw their way up and supplant Apple in terms of innovation - it’s just silly to pretend that Apple didn’t essentially define the market.
And the iPhone was a ripoff of the Star Trek communicator that Samsung has proven in court many times.
Remember Apple's motto, "Good Artists copy, Great Artists steal" and they stole everything from that Star Trek communicator but blamed Samsung of doing the same thing. That's why I've always viewed Apple as a hypocritical company for a long time.
"It's revolutionary!" is a cringe phrase so whenever Apple say, "it's revolutionary!", that means they stole something or or finally implemented a 2 year+ old technology in their "revolutionary" phone (see the Bluetooth situation).
Yeah it was more of the physical features of the communicator. Apple made the claim that it was unique and no one have replicated it before but Samsung showed the S.T. communicator in court, which bears similar resemblance to the iPhone as far as the rectangular form and color in appearance goes. There's more to that but it has been a long time and I'm not really interested in the Android v. iPhone thing anymore as both companies are cucked.
I'm just waiting for the next best competitor to the cucked companies so I can switch away from Android and to a Linux-based OS that would rival Android.
Eh, Apple brought all the basic smartphone features to the market, but they seemed to stop innovating in good ways. Their Apple Pay is proprietary, whereas Samsung phones simply create a magnetic field that mimics a card strip - so they can be used anywhere someone can swipe and the business doesn't need to buy a special terminal. Android also has handy features like using a swiping motion to quickly take a screenshot (I blew an iBot's mind when he saw me do that on my phone.)
Palm made a phone called Treo that had a physical keyboard and slightly smaller screen than iPhone.
Only real "innovations" was eliminating physical keyboard for touchscreen. PDAs at the time were very similar and many were more powerful. You just couldn't make a phone call with them.
Yeah, but “eliminating a physical keyboard for a touchscreen” is literally the defining hallmark or all modern smartphone. After Apple, they are all black glass rectangles.
That’s like saying all Ford did was apply four wheels to an internal combustion engine, none of which he invented.
Yeah, but “eliminating a physical keyboard for a touchscreen” is literally the defining hallmark or all modern smartphone.
Again, the Palm Pilot and many other PDAs had no keyboards. They just weren't phones.
The reason the Palm Pilot used a stylus was because the designers didn't like the idea of grubby fingerprints all over the screen. Go figure.
I feel part of the reason Steve Jobs was so against a stylus for the iPhone or iPad was because people might look into the history of the devices Apple copied and realize it really wasn't the first after all. It's no coincidence it took nearly 4 years after Jobs' death before the Apple Pencil was released.
The Sony Clie is yet another example of a device that came out 5 years before the iPhone.
You mean the marketing was.
iPhones have always been overrated and nothing more than expensive toys compared to their similar priced Android counterparts. They've tied people into their ecosystem because the majority of Apple users have no idea how to rip their iTunes music collection and put it on an SD card apparently.
In 2012, I purchased my first smart phone, a Samsung Galaxy Note II. It blew the iPhone 5 away. I could even hook up a controller to it with a USB OTG cable and play arcade and other emulated games on the go.
Agreed. Apple's iPhones are pieces of overpriced shit. My wife demanded to have one, the speaker broke in 6 months (no damage done), Apple replaced it. Then the mic on the 2nd phone broke (no damage done), Apple charged me to speak with them, and refused to replace it.
I tried backing up the data to buy a real, working phone (Android + Samsung) and it was encrypted. After 4 hours I finally managed to extract everything.
I took it outside, cherry bombed it with a metal baseball bat, and never looked back. Apple is a marketing gimmick company with shit quality products that only preserve market share due to how hard they make it to migrate to a better option.
"From 2017 and 2021, Apple barely hit 20% of the global smartphone market in annual sales, according to research data."
They are not some kind of untouchable titan in the industry. Android OS runs circles around iOS. Even domestically, it's less than 50% of the market, and we're hardcore Apple fanbois here in the US.
It's the next Blackberry and I hope someone disrupts the market in a big way. A StarLink phone w/o bloatware and an intelligent app marketplace would be an awesome alternative to have.
You can get an Android phone without the bloatware if you install a custom ROM with AOSP (Android Open Source Project) but you may run into conflicts with apps that relies on certain services and dependencies.
If you just want a bare-bone phone that will only do texting, emailing and some more (calling including), a custom ROM will do all of that and won't come with the bloatware.
Outside of my social circle, I've seen a lot with an iPhone but the ones I know, don't have an iPhone. The ones who I know that owns an iPhone, are the ones who are naive, gullible and not so intelligent.
This is why I've always considered the iPhone more of a social status for the dummies. No offense to anyone on here who owns an iPhone but for me, it's very limited as if we're in a walled garden and I couldn't do much with it as far as customizing goes. Not even interested in jailbreaking an iPhone to unlock "features" that was already on an Android phone with the stock ROM. Plus it's always 2 years behind on everything. It took Apple forever to implement Bluetooth and NFC (I believe it has NFC now?)
That's why my first smart phone was the G1 and I loved it so much I kept buying Google's flagship phones. I would switch to a different OS/phone now that Google is a cucked company, but my options are limited here.
If Elon's new phone will be Android/Linux based, I will switch to it in a heartbeat, but if it will follow the same vein as the iPhone, no thanks.
Well said Anon.
Totally agree with everything you said.
That’s entirely fair, but just remember that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 was essentially a ripoff of the iPhone that came before it. Virtually every significant feature of that we now consider a “smartphone” was pioneered by the iPhone.
I don’t say that with any joy - I hope Android and other Apple competitors claw their way up and supplant Apple in terms of innovation - it’s just silly to pretend that Apple didn’t essentially define the market.
And the iPhone was a ripoff of the Star Trek communicator that Samsung has proven in court many times.
Remember Apple's motto, "Good Artists copy, Great Artists steal" and they stole everything from that Star Trek communicator but blamed Samsung of doing the same thing. That's why I've always viewed Apple as a hypocritical company for a long time.
"It's revolutionary!" is a cringe phrase so whenever Apple say, "it's revolutionary!", that means they stole something or or finally implemented a 2 year+ old technology in their "revolutionary" phone (see the Bluetooth situation).
But the Star Trek communicator wasn’t real? And didn’t bear much similarly to an iPhone?
Yeah it was more of the physical features of the communicator. Apple made the claim that it was unique and no one have replicated it before but Samsung showed the S.T. communicator in court, which bears similar resemblance to the iPhone as far as the rectangular form and color in appearance goes. There's more to that but it has been a long time and I'm not really interested in the Android v. iPhone thing anymore as both companies are cucked.
I'm just waiting for the next best competitor to the cucked companies so I can switch away from Android and to a Linux-based OS that would rival Android.
Eh, Apple brought all the basic smartphone features to the market, but they seemed to stop innovating in good ways. Their Apple Pay is proprietary, whereas Samsung phones simply create a magnetic field that mimics a card strip - so they can be used anywhere someone can swipe and the business doesn't need to buy a special terminal. Android also has handy features like using a swiping motion to quickly take a screenshot (I blew an iBot's mind when he saw me do that on my phone.)
Samsung removed MST (the magnetic strip faker you just described) after the S10 series, the S20 and up don't have it
That's crazy... the fold has it (I think I have the Fold 2.) Damnit, can't keep anything nice....
Nope. iPhone released in 2007 was a Palm Pilot without a stylus and with phone capabilities. Software was less refined than Palm OS.
https://history-computer.com/palm-pilot-guide/
Palm made a phone called Treo that had a physical keyboard and slightly smaller screen than iPhone.
Only real "innovations" was eliminating physical keyboard for touchscreen. PDAs at the time were very similar and many were more powerful. You just couldn't make a phone call with them.
Yeah, but “eliminating a physical keyboard for a touchscreen” is literally the defining hallmark or all modern smartphone. After Apple, they are all black glass rectangles.
That’s like saying all Ford did was apply four wheels to an internal combustion engine, none of which he invented.
Again, the Palm Pilot and many other PDAs had no keyboards. They just weren't phones.
The reason the Palm Pilot used a stylus was because the designers didn't like the idea of grubby fingerprints all over the screen. Go figure.
I feel part of the reason Steve Jobs was so against a stylus for the iPhone or iPad was because people might look into the history of the devices Apple copied and realize it really wasn't the first after all. It's no coincidence it took nearly 4 years after Jobs' death before the Apple Pencil was released.
The Sony Clie is yet another example of a device that came out 5 years before the iPhone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8N2i9s2Ux4