Isnt accepting the forgiveness a major part of the equation? Scientologist dont do that? Or can one atone in the afterlife (serious question, not mockery) in a purgatory?
I personally believe that we will all get our chance to plead our case. There can be no forgiveness without repentance, but there can be no repentance without understanding of wrongdoing. In the end, Jesus judges the heart. And in the end it's between Him and each of us individually. In the end I think it's about owning our lives more than being shamed for being wrong. Christ says in Mathew 25 that our actions, particularly how we treat others will be a huge factor in determining the final judgement.
Remember, Thomas doubted yet Christ forgave him. Jesus isn't beyond reason. And with phrases like "let your yes be yes and your no be no" it tells me that we will have an understanding of everything and just like in the garden, coming full circle, we'll get to make our choice. On judgement day, regardless of if you think it's wrong or not, don't lie.
I just assume everyone is on the "Deathbed Conversion Plan".
Look at anytime a well known atheist dies. You have people everywhere coming out of the woodwork to swear that they converted to Christianity and renounced atheism on their deathbed. So add that to the whole "No atheist in foxholes" quote, and it seems like everyone converts to (Protestant) Christianity right before they die. 🤷♀️
That's the story I go with, anyway. Not really any of my business. I don't know why people feel the need to prove these people are going to Hell. It's like they're afraid God might not check well enough, and accidentally let someone in to the VIP section. So it's their job to remind God of his business.
Isnt accepting the forgiveness a major part of the equation? Scientologist dont do that? Or can one atone in the afterlife (serious question, not mockery) in a purgatory?
I personally believe that we will all get our chance to plead our case. There can be no forgiveness without repentance, but there can be no repentance without understanding of wrongdoing. In the end, Jesus judges the heart. And in the end it's between Him and each of us individually. In the end I think it's about owning our lives more than being shamed for being wrong. Christ says in Mathew 25 that our actions, particularly how we treat others will be a huge factor in determining the final judgement.
Remember, Thomas doubted yet Christ forgave him. Jesus isn't beyond reason. And with phrases like "let your yes be yes and your no be no" it tells me that we will have an understanding of everything and just like in the garden, coming full circle, we'll get to make our choice. On judgement day, regardless of if you think it's wrong or not, don't lie.
This is solid. The kind of answer i sought!
I just assume everyone is on the "Deathbed Conversion Plan".
Look at anytime a well known atheist dies. You have people everywhere coming out of the woodwork to swear that they converted to Christianity and renounced atheism on their deathbed. So add that to the whole "No atheist in foxholes" quote, and it seems like everyone converts to (Protestant) Christianity right before they die. 🤷♀️
That's the story I go with, anyway. Not really any of my business. I don't know why people feel the need to prove these people are going to Hell. It's like they're afraid God might not check well enough, and accidentally let someone in to the VIP section. So it's their job to remind God of his business.
People are weird.
I dont believe he's going anywhere. Just seeking understanding of others!
Ok.