I have a job opportunity and would need to move to a small town about an hour nw of Denver. It's tempting, but I'm hesitant to move there, coming from NC. Can any frens advise on the CO life?
Colorado is quickly becoming California. I've lived here my entire life and have no doubt out elections were also corrupt. The cost of living is sky high and even the small towns east of Denver are rapidly becoming overgrown with people trying to get out of the city. I've always loved Colorado, but if I had an opportunity to leave, I'd leave. As lalahemingway mentions, Boulder is the worst place in Colorado to be, they actually charge a fee if you order drinks with sugar, it's a sugar tax, that's one example. Boulder is so woke they can't blink. If you come here, avoid Boulder like the plague and make sure you are offered a well buffered salary because people are renting bedrooms in their houses for $1,000/month & 1 bedroom apartments run $1500-2000/month.
Your reply about renting small domestic spaces for crazy amounts of money made me think of the flip side of renting. Times are hard for everyone and people wanting to find additional income streams may consider the prospects of renting out some portion of their residence to make money. On the surface It sounds like a good way to make some nontaxable extra cash. But, the devil is always in those details rarely considered. I personally know people that attempted to do just this very thing during previous economic downturns and it ended up being one of the worst experiences of their lives. Instead of the venture being an additional income generator, it cost them money they already didn't have and temporary loss of their home.
Renting a dwelling to someone and trying to have them evicted is challenging enough. But trying to evict someone living under your own roof can turn into your worst nightmare. All the tenant needs to do is start some kind of an argument and then file some BS protective order. The homeowner is caught off guard by the process. Remember, even if someone is just renting a closet in your home, that closet is still considered their residence by law. Armed with a temporary protective order the closet dweller can then have the homeowner thrown out of their own home to comply with the order. The squatter then gets to stay in the home expense free. Good luck with the process of getting your home back - depending on the state.
This scenario happened to a couple of people that I personally know. Basically their good nature and willingness to help someone was used against them. The mother of a friend of mine, who was only collecting a small pension and who had a huge heart, was railroaded by trying to help another woman that needed a play to stay. She knew the women from her church so she thought it would be a safe arrangement. Boy, was she wrong. It took her over a year to get the crazy person out of her home - all while she was forced to live with her son as she fought the eviction and restraining order in court. The TPO forced her to stay a certain distance away from the squatter in her home. The crazy woman injured herself and made up some BS story about my friend's mother being abusive to her in order to get the TPO - the victim card. After a little bit of digging, we found out that this was not the squatter's first eviction/TPO rodeo. This crazy woman knew exactly what she had to do to maximize the scam.
So, I wanted to relay this bit of info just in case anyone may be considering moving someone into their own home, or they may have a close relative, like a parent, that is considering taking on a boarder to make some extra cash. Know the laws in your own state about evictions and what the rules are concerning being removed from your own home by a TPO. My advise is to find another way to make money.
Anyone that lives in a more liberal leaning jurisdiction is likely to have more serious issues as a landlord/owner. It is much more difficult to rid yourself of a deadbeat tenant whether they live with you or not. The icing on the cake is the TPO. Without the TPO, the normal eviction process is in play. The TPO adds another layer of BS to wade through and can remove you from your home until the matter is discharged. That can take time.
I had to go through an eviction process with a family member. It was not a pleasant experience. Every time I have allowed a family member to stay with me, even if they paid rent, it always ended up costing me money. I would eat the rent just so they could save the money in order to find other arrangements. Thankfully, I have only had to use the courts one time. My answer now to any friend or family member that wants to stay is a solid NO!
Once an action if filed, it is usually the one filing the action that has the upper hand temporarily. It is not until the elements are vetted in court through the legal process that the truth can be seen and the owner gets their property back, squatter free. But depending upon the jurisdiction and the congestion of the courts, this process can take some time. Therefore, unless a prospective tenant in your home is someone you know REALLY WELL, my advice is to stay clear of these types of situations. Do not bring strangers into your home - no matter what their sob story. It is sad that we have to be this way in rejecting those we would like to help. But the world is not what it used to be - especially people.
I would want some idea of where I would be moving to! I believe they are mostly in the cities, and those that hate it are moving east to our little rural areas and since some of these little town boards have corrupt individuals they are trying to destroy our way of life too. I will forever believe that Colorado is mostly Republican and they had to cheat to win here the same as Arizona, Georgia & probably most of the other states. I think it depends on the town you're expecting to move to & whether u will commute to Denver. If u give me a general list of towns in the area, I would be happy to tell u if any of them offer a chance of good living. Our farmers are incredible and fighting to keep their land, so not every place is a train wreck! Boulder though, hard no, not even a chance you could find happiness there!
Look for another job. My wife and I lived in Westminster [just north of Denver] from 2008-2018. We saw Denver and the surrounding metropolitan areas explode in growth, especially after they legalized marijuana and elected a gay governor. We used to go downtown, walk the 16th Street Mall, go to the symphony, cool things like that - but when the pot smell permeates everything and you are harassed by homeless druggies but can't carry in Denver County, it's not worth it. So, how about a trip up to Boulder, you say? Well, you could go there and have to tolerate liberal thinking and snobbery everywhere you go, if that's your thing. When you go to register your vehicle, be prepared to pay 1-2 grand. Don't get a military plate and drive around - I had a Navy plate and was actually flipped off at a traffic light. I could go on, but you get the point.
Colorado is California redux. Democrats ran Cali right into the ground and then set their sights on Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico. They're a disease. Vaccinate yourself from this disease by moving to a red state where they don't tolerate that bullshit.
Just ran outta Boulder County earlier this year. I'll never go back there to live. Ever. No offer is that good. It's quickly becoming California. The CO governor follows a lot of Newsom's decisions. We moved there in 2003, and it was amazing then. Now, it's a liberal shit hole. Beautiful Denver is now a tent city. Every time we left our house, we were quickly reminded that we don't fit in. My husband and I both felt like moving saved our sanity. Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I'm not going to lie to you. You deserve to know the truth. Things might be better on the other side of the continental divide, but that's a long way from Denver.
Thanks so much for your reply! I figured it was too good to be true. I'm a native North Carolinian and sadly, we're quickly becoming the same way. Buncha leftist Yankees moving here changing the state and culture, not for the better.
I'll never understand why the retards from the northeast move out west and down south bringing their communist bullshit with them. You left a shit hole because of the policies you support, so you move else and bring that shit with you? Man, the left is full of fucking retards. I'm one Brooklyn native that don't believe in that bullshit, and it won't follow me whenever I escape down south.
Probably because they don't realize THEY are a HUGE cause of the problem. Even small doses of their leftist/socialist, lets-just-all-go-along-to-get-along, no-child(or adult)-left-behind(or out in the cold), political correctness, preference for big-brother/nanny-state government and lack of a spine mindset aggregates/snowballs and is what causes nice places to turn into sh-tholes.
I hear you! Yeah, we're originally from GA. Moved to CO for better schools when our kids were toddlers. It was so different back then until CA people started turning up in droves. Brought everyone of their effed up political views w/them. Now, housing is outrageous, tents all over Denver and surrounding areas, and masks will never go away. So now we're in coastal Alabama and love being around so many like-minded people. Good luck turning this state blue. LOL!
I hear you! Yeah, we're originally from GA. Moved to CO for better schools when our kids were toddlers. It was so different back then until CA people started turning up in droves. Brought everyone of their effed up political views w/them. Now, housing is outrageous, tents all over Denver and surrounding areas, and masks will never go away. So now we're in coastal Alabama and love being around so many like-minded people. Good luck turning this state blue. LOL!
In 2013, 5 rural Colorado counties vote to secede, become 51st state
Five counties, Washigton, Philips, Yuma, Kit Carson and Cheyenne on the state’s Eastern Plains voted Election Day to approve the creation of a 51st state, which wouldn’t have civil unions for gay couples, legal recreational marijuana, new renewable-energy standards, or limits on ammunition magazines. The results emphasize a growing frustration in conservative prairie towns with the more populous and liberal urban Front Range. Rural areas don’t have a voice anymore.
The five counties share borders, covering about 9,500 square miles and have a combined population of about 29,200. Four of the counties — Philips, Yuma, Kit Carson and Cheyenne — border Kansas. They are solidly Republican areas that have long identified more with Kansas and Nebraska because of their agricultural background.
Colorado Counties Can Become a Part of Another State – Red-State Secession (redstatesecession.org)
In 2020, Colorado Counties Can Become a Part of Another State
This proposal is different from secession because it is simply a shift in borders that does not affect the balance of power in the US Senate. It does not create a new state or increase the number of states.
Borders between states have been relocated or redefined many times in US history. If a deal were made that two state legislatures pass, a border change would almost certainly become a reality.
(Note: El Paso County has the most total active registered Republicans, at 132,755--but only 46.59% of the registered voters in El Paso are Republicans, which is why they didn't make the list)
Also, some of the towns in the NW are based and they didn't fall for all the covid crap. You might be ok in one of those little towns, but it truly depends which one because Boulder is a cesspool!
I have a job opportunity and would need to move to a small town about an hour nw of Denver. It's tempting, but I'm hesitant to move there, coming from NC. Can any frens advise on the CO life?
Colorado is quickly becoming California. I've lived here my entire life and have no doubt out elections were also corrupt. The cost of living is sky high and even the small towns east of Denver are rapidly becoming overgrown with people trying to get out of the city. I've always loved Colorado, but if I had an opportunity to leave, I'd leave. As lalahemingway mentions, Boulder is the worst place in Colorado to be, they actually charge a fee if you order drinks with sugar, it's a sugar tax, that's one example. Boulder is so woke they can't blink. If you come here, avoid Boulder like the plague and make sure you are offered a well buffered salary because people are renting bedrooms in their houses for $1,000/month & 1 bedroom apartments run $1500-2000/month.
I am just going to leave this here.
Your reply about renting small domestic spaces for crazy amounts of money made me think of the flip side of renting. Times are hard for everyone and people wanting to find additional income streams may consider the prospects of renting out some portion of their residence to make money. On the surface It sounds like a good way to make some nontaxable extra cash. But, the devil is always in those details rarely considered. I personally know people that attempted to do just this very thing during previous economic downturns and it ended up being one of the worst experiences of their lives. Instead of the venture being an additional income generator, it cost them money they already didn't have and temporary loss of their home.
Renting a dwelling to someone and trying to have them evicted is challenging enough. But trying to evict someone living under your own roof can turn into your worst nightmare. All the tenant needs to do is start some kind of an argument and then file some BS protective order. The homeowner is caught off guard by the process. Remember, even if someone is just renting a closet in your home, that closet is still considered their residence by law. Armed with a temporary protective order the closet dweller can then have the homeowner thrown out of their own home to comply with the order. The squatter then gets to stay in the home expense free. Good luck with the process of getting your home back - depending on the state.
This scenario happened to a couple of people that I personally know. Basically their good nature and willingness to help someone was used against them. The mother of a friend of mine, who was only collecting a small pension and who had a huge heart, was railroaded by trying to help another woman that needed a play to stay. She knew the women from her church so she thought it would be a safe arrangement. Boy, was she wrong. It took her over a year to get the crazy person out of her home - all while she was forced to live with her son as she fought the eviction and restraining order in court. The TPO forced her to stay a certain distance away from the squatter in her home. The crazy woman injured herself and made up some BS story about my friend's mother being abusive to her in order to get the TPO - the victim card. After a little bit of digging, we found out that this was not the squatter's first eviction/TPO rodeo. This crazy woman knew exactly what she had to do to maximize the scam.
So, I wanted to relay this bit of info just in case anyone may be considering moving someone into their own home, or they may have a close relative, like a parent, that is considering taking on a boarder to make some extra cash. Know the laws in your own state about evictions and what the rules are concerning being removed from your own home by a TPO. My advise is to find another way to make money.
This is solid advice!! Someone needs to hear this, probably someone in Colorado!
Anyone that lives in a more liberal leaning jurisdiction is likely to have more serious issues as a landlord/owner. It is much more difficult to rid yourself of a deadbeat tenant whether they live with you or not. The icing on the cake is the TPO. Without the TPO, the normal eviction process is in play. The TPO adds another layer of BS to wade through and can remove you from your home until the matter is discharged. That can take time.
I had to go through an eviction process with a family member. It was not a pleasant experience. Every time I have allowed a family member to stay with me, even if they paid rent, it always ended up costing me money. I would eat the rent just so they could save the money in order to find other arrangements. Thankfully, I have only had to use the courts one time. My answer now to any friend or family member that wants to stay is a solid NO!
Once an action if filed, it is usually the one filing the action that has the upper hand temporarily. It is not until the elements are vetted in court through the legal process that the truth can be seen and the owner gets their property back, squatter free. But depending upon the jurisdiction and the congestion of the courts, this process can take some time. Therefore, unless a prospective tenant in your home is someone you know REALLY WELL, my advice is to stay clear of these types of situations. Do not bring strangers into your home - no matter what their sob story. It is sad that we have to be this way in rejecting those we would like to help. But the world is not what it used to be - especially people.
Thank you for the info. I figured it was probably full of leftists. Didn't know if they were just concentrated in the cities like here in NC.
I would want some idea of where I would be moving to! I believe they are mostly in the cities, and those that hate it are moving east to our little rural areas and since some of these little town boards have corrupt individuals they are trying to destroy our way of life too. I will forever believe that Colorado is mostly Republican and they had to cheat to win here the same as Arizona, Georgia & probably most of the other states. I think it depends on the town you're expecting to move to & whether u will commute to Denver. If u give me a general list of towns in the area, I would be happy to tell u if any of them offer a chance of good living. Our farmers are incredible and fighting to keep their land, so not every place is a train wreck! Boulder though, hard no, not even a chance you could find happiness there!
Estes park, Nederland, and Idaho springs area. Thanks for the reply!
Those prices are the same here in NYC.
Look for another job. My wife and I lived in Westminster [just north of Denver] from 2008-2018. We saw Denver and the surrounding metropolitan areas explode in growth, especially after they legalized marijuana and elected a gay governor. We used to go downtown, walk the 16th Street Mall, go to the symphony, cool things like that - but when the pot smell permeates everything and you are harassed by homeless druggies but can't carry in Denver County, it's not worth it. So, how about a trip up to Boulder, you say? Well, you could go there and have to tolerate liberal thinking and snobbery everywhere you go, if that's your thing. When you go to register your vehicle, be prepared to pay 1-2 grand. Don't get a military plate and drive around - I had a Navy plate and was actually flipped off at a traffic light. I could go on, but you get the point.
Colorado is California redux. Democrats ran Cali right into the ground and then set their sights on Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico. They're a disease. Vaccinate yourself from this disease by moving to a red state where they don't tolerate that bullshit.
Doesn't matter now, we're gone and have no plans to ever go back. But thanks for the update.
Just ran outta Boulder County earlier this year. I'll never go back there to live. Ever. No offer is that good. It's quickly becoming California. The CO governor follows a lot of Newsom's decisions. We moved there in 2003, and it was amazing then. Now, it's a liberal shit hole. Beautiful Denver is now a tent city. Every time we left our house, we were quickly reminded that we don't fit in. My husband and I both felt like moving saved our sanity. Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I'm not going to lie to you. You deserve to know the truth. Things might be better on the other side of the continental divide, but that's a long way from Denver.
Thanks so much for your reply! I figured it was too good to be true. I'm a native North Carolinian and sadly, we're quickly becoming the same way. Buncha leftist Yankees moving here changing the state and culture, not for the better.
I'll never understand why the retards from the northeast move out west and down south bringing their communist bullshit with them. You left a shit hole because of the policies you support, so you move else and bring that shit with you? Man, the left is full of fucking retards. I'm one Brooklyn native that don't believe in that bullshit, and it won't follow me whenever I escape down south.
It's either intentional, or just the fact that liberals have a mental disorder. It's a tragedy to see what they do to once great areas!
Probably because they don't realize THEY are a HUGE cause of the problem. Even small doses of their leftist/socialist, lets-just-all-go-along-to-get-along, no-child(or adult)-left-behind(or out in the cold), political correctness, preference for big-brother/nanny-state government and lack of a spine mindset aggregates/snowballs and is what causes nice places to turn into sh-tholes.
I hear you! Yeah, we're originally from GA. Moved to CO for better schools when our kids were toddlers. It was so different back then until CA people started turning up in droves. Brought everyone of their effed up political views w/them. Now, housing is outrageous, tents all over Denver and surrounding areas, and masks will never go away. So now we're in coastal Alabama and love being around so many like-minded people. Good luck turning this state blue. LOL!
I hear you! Yeah, we're originally from GA. Moved to CO for better schools when our kids were toddlers. It was so different back then until CA people started turning up in droves. Brought everyone of their effed up political views w/them. Now, housing is outrageous, tents all over Denver and surrounding areas, and masks will never go away. So now we're in coastal Alabama and love being around so many like-minded people. Good luck turning this state blue. LOL!
In 2013, 5 rural Colorado counties vote to secede, become 51st state Five counties, Washigton, Philips, Yuma, Kit Carson and Cheyenne on the state’s Eastern Plains voted Election Day to approve the creation of a 51st state, which wouldn’t have civil unions for gay couples, legal recreational marijuana, new renewable-energy standards, or limits on ammunition magazines. The results emphasize a growing frustration in conservative prairie towns with the more populous and liberal urban Front Range. Rural areas don’t have a voice anymore. The five counties share borders, covering about 9,500 square miles and have a combined population of about 29,200. Four of the counties — Philips, Yuma, Kit Carson and Cheyenne — border Kansas. They are solidly Republican areas that have long identified more with Kansas and Nebraska because of their agricultural background.
Colorado Counties Can Become a Part of Another State – Red-State Secession (redstatesecession.org) In 2020, Colorado Counties Can Become a Part of Another State This proposal is different from secession because it is simply a shift in borders that does not affect the balance of power in the US Senate. It does not create a new state or increase the number of states. Borders between states have been relocated or redefined many times in US history. If a deal were made that two state legislatures pass, a border change would almost certainly become a reality.
Republican Counties 10) Kit Carson -- 59.94% 9) Phillips -- 60.14% 8) Lincoln -- 61.12% 7) Moffat -- 61.73% 6) Custer -- 61.99% 5) Hinsdale -- 63.52% 4) Cheyenne -- 66.7% 3) Rio Blanco -- 72.49% 2) Washington -- 72.79%
(Note: El Paso County has the most total active registered Republicans, at 132,755--but only 46.59% of the registered voters in El Paso are Republicans, which is why they didn't make the list)
Also, some of the towns in the NW are based and they didn't fall for all the covid crap. You might be ok in one of those little towns, but it truly depends which one because Boulder is a cesspool!