Quiet secret execution is what got us to this point. Nobody is deterred when they don't see the results of their actions. We used to execute criminals in the public square where the kids could see what happens. Not prison where criminals organize and get more street cred. Hard to write a rap song about a banger with face tats who was hung directly after trial where everyone gets to see the begging, choking, and shit draining out from their corpse. That is deterrent.
John Andre, when caught treasonously conspiring with Benedict Arnold, after receiving the building plans for West Point, was hung in the town square. In one of the stories I read, he was wearing his white pants, and officers uniform, the shit stain was visible for days as he was left to hang as a warning for any future traitors.
I don’t think there’s anything in the Constitution that prohibits us from carrying out swift justice through execution, including public hangings, after a trial.
If you are referring to the Eighth Amendment, it does no such thing. If you are referring to some other portion of the text please enlighten me. I would be very interested to read it.
I can find the citations to the SCOTUS cases tomorrow if you really want to dig into this, but the short version goes something like this; in the 1960s, the Supreme Court essentially ruled that most states methods of applying the death penalty were unconstitutional under the 8th and 14th amendments; as a way of satisfying the constitutional standards set forth by SCOTUS every state has implemented a right to appeal in death penalty cases.
In that case your original assertion should not claim we have a Constitution that prohibits swift executions, (since we don't) rather we have a Supreme Court ruling that does.
Quiet secret execution is what got us to this point. Nobody is deterred when they don't see the results of their actions. We used to execute criminals in the public square where the kids could see what happens. Not prison where criminals organize and get more street cred. Hard to write a rap song about a banger with face tats who was hung directly after trial where everyone gets to see the begging, choking, and shit draining out from their corpse. That is deterrent.
John Andre, when caught treasonously conspiring with Benedict Arnold, after receiving the building plans for West Point, was hung in the town square. In one of the stories I read, he was wearing his white pants, and officers uniform, the shit stain was visible for days as he was left to hang as a warning for any future traitors.
Exactly how it should be done
Very true.
I agree. If nobody see nothing, the evil will continue.
We have a little thing called the Constitution which would prohibit immediate post-trial executions.
Do we?
I hope so, as I think the Second Amendment is pretty important.
I don’t think there’s anything in the Constitution that prohibits us from carrying out swift justice through execution, including public hangings, after a trial.
Not sure I agree with that interpretation. Justice was carried out constitutional for many years. Life in prison is not a right
military code of justice probably doesn't have that; execution can be immediate IIRC. That's why military (tribunals) are the only way.
If you are referring to the Eighth Amendment, it does no such thing. If you are referring to some other portion of the text please enlighten me. I would be very interested to read it.
I can find the citations to the SCOTUS cases tomorrow if you really want to dig into this, but the short version goes something like this; in the 1960s, the Supreme Court essentially ruled that most states methods of applying the death penalty were unconstitutional under the 8th and 14th amendments; as a way of satisfying the constitutional standards set forth by SCOTUS every state has implemented a right to appeal in death penalty cases.
In that case your original assertion should not claim we have a Constitution that prohibits swift executions, (since we don't) rather we have a Supreme Court ruling that does.