Except that, ""the restored government of VA in exile in Richmond"", was NOT in Richmond,
Please don't misquote. That's not what I said. What I actually said was:
the restored government of VA in exile from the capitol of Richmond
Quite the different meaning when quoted correctly. Dare I suggest that this misquote was intentional...
was NOT in Richmond
The location of the body's meeting does not determine its legitimacy or illegitimacy.
was Not a duly elected Govt
Free and open elections were held. A governor was elected by those choosing to vote in that election. The rebels held their own elections as well, which the US government rightly refused to recognize, and instead lawfully recognized the "restored government" as the legitimate governing body under the Constitution.
was in hiding in Wheeling
Was in exile, forced there following threats of violence by rebels
it was a RUMP GOVT, unelected
Again, free and open elections were held
making them a bunch of Seditionists, at best, and LIARS too
Sure, rebels would certainly levy that charge to distract from their own crimes.
At MOST Only two counties should have been admitted as the Entire State of WV, not the gargantuan piece of land that Virginia never approved,
How can you concede that any should have been admitted if as you argue, it was unconstitutional? Not wise to undermine your own core argument. The restored government of VA did approve all the counties involved in the petition, though there was unsual delay given the extraordinary circumstances resulting from the ongoing rebellion which you delusionally claim didn't exist.
Claim that you believe the Constitution is Law,
Because it is. Are you suggesting it isn't?
and in it, the FIRST ONE to approve the splitting of a State is supposed to be the Elected Valid Govt,
That's not what the text says. And we're not talking about a state "splitting up." That's not any of the cases described by the text of Article in question. This is actually a 10th Amendment issue, as to the right of a state to cede part of its land to the federal government and/or the right of the state to grant permission for counties within it to secede from it to petition from statehood. The Constitution does not forbid a state from such action. It does however, set restrictions on how the federal government can approve new admission of new states, which as I've already detailed several times, none of these prohibitions were violated. Again, because of the semicolon, the case we're dealing with doesn't even technically involve the state government at all, except insofar as its exercising its 10th Amendment right to permit counties to secede from it.
throwing out this BS in Exile BS, which Never Happened, it was just a bunch of asshole FreeMasons claiming the status that they Never Had....
The irony of the delusion expressed in this statement is as staggering as your refusal to admit that you were duped by Lost Causists into supporting a rebellion made in defense of an evil cause. One might wonder if you're really a reincarnation of Jefferson Davis...
I don't believe you intended that as a Compliment, but that is very high praise anyway, and I'll be happy to take it....
As for your silly comments about ""Rebels"", the only ones being Rebellious were the FreeMasons in Wheeling, who were Not the Valid Govt of anything, yes I know they held Elections, and then didn't allow thousands to Vote in those [S]Elections, I'm telling you they were ALL FreeMasons that did that crap, and they did it on purpose, to cause even more havoc....
I still contend that the Validly Elected STATE GOVT, must be the First to approve the split, and then the Federation can have their say, just like Court Cases, they begin at State Level and then go to SCOTUS, it is the Correct method, and if the State says NO, then that's where it stays....
that is very high praise anyway, and I'll be happy to take it.
Well, at least now you've revealed your true colors and nature as an agent of Disunion.
Thus ends my willingness to continue further attempts at discussion. You can find me when the dust settles and you're left utterly dumbfounded. Until then, best of luck surviving the storm.
You do understand that try as they might, hiring all the Best Lawyers, even setting up a Jury of Anti-Southerners, they just couldn't get a Conviction on Jefferson Davis, just like the DemonRats today with Trump....
The Reason they couldn't, is because Davis, although Charged with Treason, never betrayed his Nation, And his Nationality is/was fully protected under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1: The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States..
But hoo boy did they try....
So, instead of having that problem later, they came up with the 14th Amendment, and simply stole the State Citizens right out of their States, and made everyone into Federal Chattel....
Please don't misquote. That's not what I said. What I actually said was:
Quite the different meaning when quoted correctly. Dare I suggest that this misquote was intentional...
The location of the body's meeting does not determine its legitimacy or illegitimacy.
Free and open elections were held. A governor was elected by those choosing to vote in that election. The rebels held their own elections as well, which the US government rightly refused to recognize, and instead lawfully recognized the "restored government" as the legitimate governing body under the Constitution.
Was in exile, forced there following threats of violence by rebels
Again, free and open elections were held
Sure, rebels would certainly levy that charge to distract from their own crimes.
How can you concede that any should have been admitted if as you argue, it was unconstitutional? Not wise to undermine your own core argument. The restored government of VA did approve all the counties involved in the petition, though there was unsual delay given the extraordinary circumstances resulting from the ongoing rebellion which you delusionally claim didn't exist.
Because it is. Are you suggesting it isn't?
That's not what the text says. And we're not talking about a state "splitting up." That's not any of the cases described by the text of Article in question. This is actually a 10th Amendment issue, as to the right of a state to cede part of its land to the federal government and/or the right of the state to grant permission for counties within it to secede from it to petition from statehood. The Constitution does not forbid a state from such action. It does however, set restrictions on how the federal government can approve new admission of new states, which as I've already detailed several times, none of these prohibitions were violated. Again, because of the semicolon, the case we're dealing with doesn't even technically involve the state government at all, except insofar as its exercising its 10th Amendment right to permit counties to secede from it.
The irony of the delusion expressed in this statement is as staggering as your refusal to admit that you were duped by Lost Causists into supporting a rebellion made in defense of an evil cause. One might wonder if you're really a reincarnation of Jefferson Davis...
Reincarnation of Jefferson Davis???
I don't believe you intended that as a Compliment, but that is very high praise anyway, and I'll be happy to take it....
As for your silly comments about ""Rebels"", the only ones being Rebellious were the FreeMasons in Wheeling, who were Not the Valid Govt of anything, yes I know they held Elections, and then didn't allow thousands to Vote in those [S]Elections, I'm telling you they were ALL FreeMasons that did that crap, and they did it on purpose, to cause even more havoc....
I still contend that the Validly Elected STATE GOVT, must be the First to approve the split, and then the Federation can have their say, just like Court Cases, they begin at State Level and then go to SCOTUS, it is the Correct method, and if the State says NO, then that's where it stays....
Well, at least now you've revealed your true colors and nature as an agent of Disunion.
Thus ends my willingness to continue further attempts at discussion. You can find me when the dust settles and you're left utterly dumbfounded. Until then, best of luck surviving the storm.
You do understand that try as they might, hiring all the Best Lawyers, even setting up a Jury of Anti-Southerners, they just couldn't get a Conviction on Jefferson Davis, just like the DemonRats today with Trump....
The Reason they couldn't, is because Davis, although Charged with Treason, never betrayed his Nation, And his Nationality is/was fully protected under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1: The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States..
But hoo boy did they try....
So, instead of having that problem later, they came up with the 14th Amendment, and simply stole the State Citizens right out of their States, and made everyone into Federal Chattel....
Anyway, Thanks for the High Compliment....