...that I can get imputed odds of nearly 40:1 against this happening by buying puts (at the lowest strike prices) with expirations dates mostly of 1/19/24, 6/21/24, and 1/17/25. Which I have.
(note: the benefit of puts, unlike short selling, is that your downside is capped at the loss of your initial investment)
My hope/expectation is that sometime in the next 13, 19, or 25 months, the evidence of willful, murderous fraud will cause the liability protections that Pfizer and Moderna enjoy to be utterly null and void, and that the potential/certain liabilities from the pending lawsuits will dwarf any assets of these companies (remember: while Pfizer has many products which they sell and distribute, Moderna is essentially just a company created solely to pump these deadly MRNA jabs into people).
And I can only promise that I'm not sharing this out of some cynical front-running scheme, as I won't be selling these before expiry. I only share because I want to dance on the graves of any demons who hold long positions in these death-dealing companies, and I want them to foot the bill for the party, and I want others to dance along side with.
If you don't know what a "put" is, ignore this message.
If you don't presently have money you can willingly part with, ignore this message.
If you think my fundamental logic is unsound, consider responding to warn off others.
I'm just learning how to trade and I will have to paper trade at least three more months before I put some real money in, but I guess you are onto something. I'll keep these positions in mind. Thank you.
My strategy was pretty much encapsulated in my first two sentences... although I forgot to note that I chose to maximize leverage on my GTZ thesis by focusing on the cheapest, waaaay-out-of-the-money options.
And then, in practicality, I settled on these, with a diversity of expiration dates, just based on their prices at the time. Nothing scientific here - just looking for puts appeared to be the most most effective way to implement my strategy.
PFE 06/16/2023 35.00 P PFE 01/19/2024 22.50 P PFE 01/19/2024 25.00 P PFE 06/21/2024 27.50 P PFE 06/21/2024 35.00 P PFE 01/17/2025 22.50 P PFE 01/17/2025 25.00 P MRNA 07/21/2023 90.00 P MRNA 01/19/2024 65.00 P MRNA 01/17/2025 60.00 P
And regarding "learning how to trade", I think everyone should be familiar with this.👍 But part-and-parcel of that is to be endlessly subjected with the non-stop boastful claims of winning from "day traders", and it's important to know that this is like listening to the stories of all the wins from a degenerate bettor. Investing is important, and can help grow your capital, but my main suggestions are to focus on long time horizons, as well as implementing your thesis of where they markets are headed. But trying to beat the high-velocity, front-running, algorithmically-optimized financial firms in short term, or "day trades", by "reading the charts" or some other secret sauce, is the stuff of retards. Any promise of free and easy money for doing something that someone else could do themselves is a straight-up scam, forever and always.
If you are just learning to trade. The number 1 most important lesson I can help you with is don’t listen to idiots on any platforms telling/suggesting where to put YOUR money.
Like this guy lol
You might be 1000% correct. And I hope you are.
My only issue is I expect a US dollar collapse before or while this is happening, so nominal gains may be high. But value of capital risked should be put into other assets like food, or other survival items.
Two great points (I only touched on the second by stating: don’t risk what you can’t lose):
The time-value of money has to be understood; the capital risked is 2022 dollars, and the return at expiration date would be 2024/2025 dollars. (edit: I was distracted when I wrote “time value of money”; “the debasement of the currency” is the more salient issue, and the one you correctly brought up)
Definitely don’t spend money that is needed for more pressing purposes, even while acknowledging that survival preparation is inherently speculative as well. I’ve spent a lot of money on survival prep that may not ever get used if there’s not a food emergency in the US. This activity is indeed very analogous to the risk/reward of a speculative investment, although I, too, would elevate preparing for “food insecurity” over financial positioning for the coming financial evisceration of companies complicity in the canal’s mass murders.
IMHO investing in evil to make a personal profit is obscene and disgraceful to all those people who have suffered from the clot shots adverse effects and death.
My point exactly.
And so I'm betting that evil will LOSE.
Do you see the paradox in your statement though?
Explain it to me like you're not 5.
In other words, you intend to make a personal profit on all those people who suffered from the lies of Pfizer and Moderna. Without this suffering, your post would not have been made. This is obscene and disgraceful. You seem not to be discerning of this though.
What is this retard hour? (I guess I’m responsible for causing these financially ignorant responses, too 🤣) For anyone sentient who could use one more reiteration, I’m betting against those responsible for these things. The price discovery process is how those who’ve supported the murders in the public markets are financially punished. I obviously had less than zero involvement with causing these atrocities to be committed, but by your froot loop logic, I’d also be complicit if I took satisfaction in the legal conviction and punishment of those criminally responsible. Just weird, weird stuff, man.
There are two types of bets. One group (long/call) is betting that Pfizer's business will be successful, and therefore the share price will increase. The other group (short/put) is betting that Pfizer's business will falter, and therefore the share price will decrease.
OP isn't "investing in evil"... he's doing the exact opposite. He's investing in Pfizer's demise.
He is seeking to profit personally. He wouldn't be investing if it wasn't for so many people dying and being left maimed. This is shameful.
I'm hoping they go to below gallows
Although I think your logic is correct according to what should happen, it is quite risky and therefore not the best thing to assure long term growth of your portfolio.
If you can’t handle limited risk, Blackrock and Vanguard are ready to handle your index fund needs. (as the market drops out from under you 🤷♂️)
Quite seriously, the whole point of this post was to point out a straightforward way to benefit from a view that these companies will be ended by their jaw-dropping murderous malfeasance; of course there’s a risk, but it’s specifically limited. It’s essentially a binary outcome with what I believe to be very favorable odds - if you can’t afford to lose the premiums at any size, or don’t agree with my presumptions, or, as it appears in this case, just plainly don’t comprehend assuming risk vs. reward, yeah, it’s totally not for you. 😆
You’re an angry little guy
Again, everything you say is plainly right out of the troll manual.
Sure I’m a troll, I’m here just to call you an idiot
You are an idiot. There I feel much better
You angry, bitter, little man
To make profit off of the suffering of other humans is literally why everyone is here and is AGAINST!
You are stupid, your investment strategy is stupid, you are stupid if you think Pfizer just disappears within 2 years. Even if the evidence comes out against them.
Look at the SACKLER family, killed a lot of people, not one of them is in jail. Your gonna need a lot more than some puts my friend.
Goodnight this is my mic drop
Sure it is. 🤣
You’re both comically projecting (always a lovely spectacle🙄), and quick-adopting the “concerns” of others for gratuitous agitation. Again, it’s just plainly transparent concern troll practices and procedure.
So free to keep up your living exhibit if you (predictably) can’t help from picking up your “mic.” But if not, thank you for pantsing yourself today.
I hope you succeed. Let's assume you do and make say, 100K. Then what? Can you repeat that strategy 10 more times and become a millionaire? Most likely not. The same money can currently be parked in short term (2, 3, 6 mo, etc.) T bills at more than 4% interest, risk free. We are in a bear market again and all stocks likely to go lower due to recession in 2023, then the T bill money will be available to pick up stocks in the best and most profitable companies at bargain basement prices. I like 0 risk. There are no mulligans in investing.
Let's see if the MODS think this is Q related. Popcorn in hand!
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The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent?
This is always a valid consideration, as countless people have gone busy getting everything right about a prediction but the timing.
But yeah, no, thanks for the concern, but this isn’t going to make me insolvent - like I stated, the losses are fixed, and I’m fully prepared to part with the premiums I spent in return for getting what I feel to be fantastically advantageous odds.
I get your theory but it’s not like this would be a first for Pfizer (maybe the worst though but still) they’ve been in violation lawsuits pretty much since they’ve started. They settle for up to billions at a time and every couple of years.
There are unfortunately way too many people behind this to make it go away especially in a couple years. Every news network, television ad, sporting event is sponsored or brought to you by Pfizer.
I wish you were right but I just don’t see it, Also, no offense, but it’s also too basic of a strategy in a corrupt and manipulated market. When we need to be thinking 5D
If you think the largest legal settlement in history, for the marketing a few random drugs for off-label uses, is anywhere near comparable to conspiring with the federal government to ban the use of effective early treatments for COVID, banning the public discussion of those medicines, fraudulently gaining approval for a murderous injection with negative effectiveness, corrupt the entire practice of medicine, suppressing the freedom of speech and dissent for Americans and people around the world, pushing this untested (or, damningly, worse) or pregnant women and children, corrupting the VAERS, DMED, and other sacrosanct databases, in a mutagen that over 60% of Americans were induced to taking, many at the direct threat of loss of their livelihood or access to medical care and/or family members, which has caused the death of millions, and counting… yeah, I don’t think you share a common view with this community about “what is coming.”
And then your demand for “5D” investing strategies is just transparently clownish concern trolling. Either the criminal conspirators get punished, legally, socially, financially, or they don’t. That’s not complex. You’re oozing either clownishness, or disingenuousness.
Haha you just want people to join your foolish puts so you don’t look like an idiot.
Your betting against a system that is designed for you to lose, keep that in mind
What I was saying is that these Pharmas have been doing wrong for a very long time. The FDA is sleeping with most of them and that goes deep into our political system to every crack and corner and you think your gonna beat them with a couple puts hahahaha you live in a dream world
You’re pretty much saying that in 2 years our entire system from the stock market to government agencies, to the independent person, will be gutted from corruption completely and that you’ll ride into 2025 on a rainbow made of money from that said corruption, again a dream world…
You posted this wanted people to join on and your getting wrecked, not my fault bro
Also my Fren is right, to invest in this is purposely obscene and IS disgraceful to the friends and family who’ve suffered from this.
Dude, every word you write is more transparently concern-trolling than the last. It’s not even remotely subtle.
Be real, you really thought it was a good idea to come to this website and suggest this shit??? A great awakening website and you want to invest into evil so you can be a hero?? Haha Go to Reddit and get their input. I’m done with ya
Remember y’all, if my opinion isn’t that same as yours than I’m obviously wrong 😂
This was for the consideration and benefit for people operating with similar assumptions of future events.
So your mileage will quite obviously vary, troll boy. 😆