Yet, NARA immediately knew every declassified document President Trump took and claimed they were still classified?
Shouldn’t someone at NARA be held criminally negligent for know knowing the whereabouts of these documents?
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great point if that's how they got notice of Trump's docs. I seem to recall though that someone at MAL notified FBI/Achives might have initiated the debacle
It is how.
National Archives asks DOJ to investigate Trump administration’s handling of White House records
they hire the dumbest puppets they can to make 6 figure incomes to do nothing and get preem retirement benefits?
The mystery goes away once you admit the possibility that what was found with Biden were unauthorized and uncontrolled copies of classified documents. Classified Document + Xerox Machine => Uncontrolled Copy of Classified Document. This is why all photocopying equipment in an area with classified material is also under security control. (But no problem if the classified originals are sneaked out for copying with uncontrolled equipment.) You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to be a fairly competent spy.
You’re right, I was assuming these documents were in their official folders. I didn’t consider the official folders were taken somewhere uncontrolled to be copied, then the official copies were returned.
You’re scenario is much worse, it shows an intent to illegally obtain and possess classified information. Possessing the originals could be passed off as a mistake made by a staffer in the waning days of the Obama Administration.
I don't think NARA does or even can have knowledge of the existence of all classified documents.
The department heads are supposed to submit important documents for archival.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/18/donald-trump-classified-material-national-archives
When I read this article it sounds like they demanded boxes back, got them, then claimed there was classified documents in them. This was well before the Mar a Lago raid.
The Guardian among other outlets leaps to conclusions without evidence. Here is the archivist's non answer linked (but not quoted because it undermines the Guardian's fake conclusion)
"Did NARA ask the representatives of former President Trump about missing records prior to the 15 boxes being identified? If so, what information was provided in response?
Answer: NARA had ongoing communications with the representatives of former President Trump throughout 2021, which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes to NARA in January 2022."
The FBI raid happened FIRST and then NARA identified the boxes.
"What efforts has NARA taken, and is NARA taking, to ensure that any additional records that have not been turned over to NARA are not lost or destroyed?
Answer: NARA has asked the representatives of former President Trump to continue to search for any additional Presidential records that have not been transferred to NARA, as required by the Presidential Records Act."
In other words they don't have a document list. It's just the law for the President to comply.
The raid happened on 8 August 2022, this article was written 18 February 2022, six months prior.
Fair enough. Misread the date I apologize.
National Archives asks DOJ to investigate Trump administration’s handling of White House records
shill on....
I'm not a shill...that word doesn't even remotely apply here.
First of all your source is CNBC which...LOL.
And secondly there is nothing in that article that contradicts what I said. NARA suspected documents were taken, so the TRUMP aide investigated and contacted them pre raid. They did not know what documents were missing.
I think you’re probably right, NARA itself might not have a comprehensive list of these documents.
But, as someone who once upon a time worked with classified materials in the military, our department had a register of every document, when & who checked it out and when they checked it back in. When documents needed to be destroyed two people did the job and both had to sign the register.
Somewhere, someone had a local register and had to realize these documents went missing. But, they must not have been officially checked out, otherwise they would have known where to retrieve them.
All very strange. Kind of reminds me of the Pumpkin Papers.
Makes sense, thanks for the insight
That word applies here more just as much as twitter. This place is is lousier with them than a combo crack/whore house. The DS doesnt need to infest internet spaces where they have had control for decades....
I use left sources whenever they admit the truth. Its easier for retards and normies to accept it.
LASTLY, fuck your circular logic. The point of disccussion here is how is NARA policing a president who has the authority to declassify ANYTHING and take copies of anything not classified, but they were completely unaware of the (apparent massive amount) classified documents a former VP has ILLEGALLY. The VP has the power to declass NOTHING and should have NONE in his possession.
The funny thing is I agree that NARA is not supposed to be policing the President, that the VP cannot declass, and that Biden should not have them in his possession after 6 years.
There's no circular logic here. I'm not challenging the discussion but attempting to give my opinion which you for some reason think I'm a "shill" if I challenge the premise, with evidence, that NARA keeps track of all docs.