Have you any idea that before jesus died for sinners..so did Mithras? And fifteen other saviours.. crucified on trees or crosses..descended into hell...the Vedic jesus Krishna fed thousands with little cakes from a small basket..did all the same miracles as did all the other saviours....raised the dead.walked on water...rose from the dead after three dayees..had twelve disciples..born Dec 25th..etc etc was the redeemer..the lamb of god etc etc he was he way the truth and the life....
Why do you think believing in fables makes you a good girl?
Do some research...you can find all the evidence on the internet
This is the same pop atheism that was getting pushed by the Zeitgeist documentary and the new atheism movement in the early 00s. Biblical scholars do not give this any credence, and I'm including the atheist scholars such as Bart Ehrman. English puns and tenuous connections do not make Jesus=Krishna=Mitra, and the theory is not taken seriously by anyone except the NA movement- which is part of the Social Justice movement, by the way.
If you're interested in how Christianity's icons and mythos were influenced by other, previous religions, look up Sol Invictus and the manner in which Constantine turned Christianity into the state religion of Rome.
Speaking as someone who is entirely pragmatic about religion, you must understand that Christianity is the antidote to globohomo, and even Q encourages prayer.
You need to do some serious research. It is a matter of historical fact there have bee. Sixteen documented saviours..all saying the same things..all purporting to save man from his sins.
Prayers are something else...you don't need a man to have been tortured to death on a cross to save you from your sins...a scapegoat..to pray.
The problem with myths is that they are myths. There is no historicity or evidence or documentary/textual chain of custody. So we don't know when such tales were written (certainly much later than claimed) nor by whom.
Such is not the case with the New Testament accounts of Jesus. They were written by the people whose names are put to them. They were written when they were claimed to have been written. They have scores of corroborating witnesses. They have endured centuries of hostile criticism. They are backed up by archeology. There is an unbroken chain of custody. They are confirmed by contemporary (in other words, ancient, historical, from that period) 3rd-party scholars and historians. They are confirmed by the lives of those who told the tales and by the lives of the disciples of those who told the tales, and they are confirmed by millions of modern believers who daily experience God's presence in their lives, myself included.
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Where is the source material for the claim that Socrates had wise men from the east deliver frankincense and myrrh? The Anacalypsis was written in the 1800's by a different rabid atheist. I find no original source material for the claim. Maybe you should do some research on each of the claims made in this link. As for me, I know that Jesus is real.
It's a curious thing, but not uncommon. I wouldn't really bother engaging with uk9994 on this topic, as she is convinced she is right and appears to be deeply satisfied with her own interpretations, and appears quite unable to recognize some of the biases and emotional programming that underlies them.
Part of the lies that work on some people are to generate a projected interpretation of Christ that is <undesirable> and then establish that as the sticking point, on which all future rejections can work.
Example, the idea that "Jesus needed to be murdered and tortured so that sinful people could go to heaven". I mean, that really is archaic, primary school (elementary school) conceptualization of Christ and is purpose. And, obviously, it's an ugly one.
And because it's so crude and crass and obviously immature, it provides a great foundation for UK9 to reject, blame and reaffirm her own interpretations (and antithetical interpretations delivered by others to her).
It's exactly like seeing the corruption and evil that infiltrated and undermined so much of the Catholic Church, or the faults and flaws of religion as a whole, and using that as a justification for why Communism is the great liberator - a 19th century idea that gave so much power to Marxism.
Tell me that the sun is just an illusion! Tell me that when I breathe, I'm NOT breathing air. Tell me that every day I live my life, I'm not really here or that I don't really have a family. Reality is experienced, and cognized, and resonates.
If you have experienced Jesus on some level, you can no more denier the reality of him than you can of the existence of the sun, ths stars, or of your own breathing lungs.
But whereas these things are experiences of an objective material reality, a reality virtually forced upon us by the fact that we cannot always keep our eyes, ears, nose, skin, etc, closed, contrastively, one is able to either open or close one's mind, and thus, certain realities that can only be experienced subjectively can be forever kept out of our mind and our experience.
That's why pursuit of and experience of the truth is such a challenging thing. It requires personal choice and responsibility, and a willingness to face the internal challenges that come with recognizing the flaws and faults underlying my own personality and heart.
Have you looked into the suppressed history of Tartaria and the Mud Floods. We have actual photographs of this stuff, which I think are generally more trustworthy than written text. If they are able to hide the existence of an entire nation, then they are willing to lie about anything. That means the “evidence” that “disproves” The Bible is suspect, especially when we see their Satanic background. I don’t trust almost anything they are telling us, and the way they do everything in their power to undermine Christianity suggests there is something there they not only believe in/know about, but fear.
I believe in One God, and I have no others before me. Mythos does not remove that fact Many are called, few are chosen, I belong to one Body of Christ, not other son Gods and fables.. That's all that is required. Creator of all that is seen and unseen, begotten, not made, his son Jesus Christ is one with him, he came down to save his people, and with wisdom and love came to save all people who would believe in him.He lives in the Holy Spirit, and is one being with the Father and the Son..he Lives, and is real. He is real in all who believe in him, who act in his name. Within mankind there is a seed of yearning to unite with Creation, so, of course there were ancient myths. God loved us so he put that seed within us, and then, he chose to come to a people, because he found good in some of them. They did not practice cruel rituals that took life, the belief in the Supreme Being came when God knew we were ready, or at least some of us. He became flesh through a woman and took on our pain and suffering, healed us, gave us wisdom for the key to life everlasting with him. For all of us, not some elite group or leader who teaches that consciousness is only for the chosen. All that secret society bullshit. Nope, my God is here for all, open hearted , pierced at his side, All mighty and freely given. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain, there is deep thought and wisdom, intellectual stimulation, and, with practice and willingness, epiphany. In that moment you know the one true God, and he knows you, and you know that you are loved. All those words and esoteric writings will seem small, and often dangerous.
Wow, another you tube theologian who got his entire education by watching the Video Zeitgeist, and not bothering to see if any of what is said there is true.
Well it ain't. It's made up B.S.
On first viewing I detected many things that were factually untrue.
Do some research...you can find all the evidence on the internet
Those ^ comments made by people who's research is very near to zero always make me laugh. So thanks for that.
It's not hard to find. You are right that the only thing needed is a little time on the internet to see that it is all warmed over baloney. And you will see the proof in graphic detail.
Ok everything you proposed in your post ORIGINALLY CAME FROM THE MOVIE ZEITGEIST.
I'm not surprised that you don't even know that much.
And I know what "evidences" you have. They were all there YEARS AGO.
And guess what?
They were all made up bunk! Mostly "he said she said" stuff - quoting someone who has no idea of the actual facts - well established, well known facts that NO ONE DISPUTES. In most cases you can hold the proof in your hands.
You are way out of the time loop. All of that childishness was disproved more than a decade ago - with proof you can hold in your hand and see for yourself in most cases.
No one even attempts to push that childishness anymore. Don't embarrass yourself in public.
Or is it all the same God manifesting at different times to different areas? Yes you could debunk...or you could say hmm it's really weird every religion and even remote tribes have a flood story, etc...that implies theirs something supernatural there..the question then would be what or who is really in control.
Have you any idea that before jesus died for sinners..so did Mithras? And fifteen other saviours.. crucified on trees or crosses..descended into hell...the Vedic jesus Krishna fed thousands with little cakes from a small basket..did all the same miracles as did all the other saviours....raised the dead.walked on water...rose from the dead after three dayees..had twelve disciples..born Dec 25th..etc etc was the redeemer..the lamb of god etc etc he was he way the truth and the life....
Why do you think believing in fables makes you a good girl?
Do some research...you can find all the evidence on the internet
This is the same pop atheism that was getting pushed by the Zeitgeist documentary and the new atheism movement in the early 00s. Biblical scholars do not give this any credence, and I'm including the atheist scholars such as Bart Ehrman. English puns and tenuous connections do not make Jesus=Krishna=Mitra, and the theory is not taken seriously by anyone except the NA movement- which is part of the Social Justice movement, by the way.
If you're interested in how Christianity's icons and mythos were influenced by other, previous religions, look up Sol Invictus and the manner in which Constantine turned Christianity into the state religion of Rome.
Speaking as someone who is entirely pragmatic about religion, you must understand that Christianity is the antidote to globohomo, and even Q encourages prayer.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/38600/38600-h/38600-h.htm
Try reading the truth instead of evading it
You need to do some serious research. It is a matter of historical fact there have bee. Sixteen documented saviours..all saying the same things..all purporting to save man from his sins.
Prayers are something else...you don't need a man to have been tortured to death on a cross to save you from your sins...a scapegoat..to pray.
The problem with myths is that they are myths. There is no historicity or evidence or documentary/textual chain of custody. So we don't know when such tales were written (certainly much later than claimed) nor by whom.
Such is not the case with the New Testament accounts of Jesus. They were written by the people whose names are put to them. They were written when they were claimed to have been written. They have scores of corroborating witnesses. They have endured centuries of hostile criticism. They are backed up by archeology. There is an unbroken chain of custody. They are confirmed by contemporary (in other words, ancient, historical, from that period) 3rd-party scholars and historians. They are confirmed by the lives of those who told the tales and by the lives of the disciples of those who told the tales, and they are confirmed by millions of modern believers who daily experience God's presence in their lives, myself included.
Don't waste your time with this antichrist.
You are kidding yourself. Even the church admit there is no documentary evidence for jesus..but there is for the other redeemers
don't confuse god with a redeemer tortured and murdered so you can go to a mythical heave.n when you die.
Where is the source material for the claim that Socrates had wise men from the east deliver frankincense and myrrh? The Anacalypsis was written in the 1800's by a different rabid atheist. I find no original source material for the claim. Maybe you should do some research on each of the claims made in this link. As for me, I know that Jesus is real.
It's a curious thing, but not uncommon. I wouldn't really bother engaging with uk9994 on this topic, as she is convinced she is right and appears to be deeply satisfied with her own interpretations, and appears quite unable to recognize some of the biases and emotional programming that underlies them.
Part of the lies that work on some people are to generate a projected interpretation of Christ that is <undesirable> and then establish that as the sticking point, on which all future rejections can work.
Example, the idea that "Jesus needed to be murdered and tortured so that sinful people could go to heaven". I mean, that really is archaic, primary school (elementary school) conceptualization of Christ and is purpose. And, obviously, it's an ugly one.
And because it's so crude and crass and obviously immature, it provides a great foundation for UK9 to reject, blame and reaffirm her own interpretations (and antithetical interpretations delivered by others to her).
It's exactly like seeing the corruption and evil that infiltrated and undermined so much of the Catholic Church, or the faults and flaws of religion as a whole, and using that as a justification for why Communism is the great liberator - a 19th century idea that gave so much power to Marxism.
Tell me that the sun is just an illusion! Tell me that when I breathe, I'm NOT breathing air. Tell me that every day I live my life, I'm not really here or that I don't really have a family. Reality is experienced, and cognized, and resonates.
If you have experienced Jesus on some level, you can no more denier the reality of him than you can of the existence of the sun, ths stars, or of your own breathing lungs.
But whereas these things are experiences of an objective material reality, a reality virtually forced upon us by the fact that we cannot always keep our eyes, ears, nose, skin, etc, closed, contrastively, one is able to either open or close one's mind, and thus, certain realities that can only be experienced subjectively can be forever kept out of our mind and our experience.
That's why pursuit of and experience of the truth is such a challenging thing. It requires personal choice and responsibility, and a willingness to face the internal challenges that come with recognizing the flaws and faults underlying my own personality and heart.
Appeal to antiquity fallacy and not true.
When you wake up dead, you will then know how wrong you were. By then it will be to late. 🙏4u
That makes no sense....look at history...look at the documented facts instead of denying truth
That falsehood would negate the trinity of the Godhead. Try harder.
Tartaria makes all “official” historical documents like the ones you refer to suspect. How do you know the histories you believe are not false?
Have you looked into the suppressed history of Tartaria and the Mud Floods. We have actual photographs of this stuff, which I think are generally more trustworthy than written text. If they are able to hide the existence of an entire nation, then they are willing to lie about anything. That means the “evidence” that “disproves” The Bible is suspect, especially when we see their Satanic background. I don’t trust almost anything they are telling us, and the way they do everything in their power to undermine Christianity suggests there is something there they not only believe in/know about, but fear.
Try listening to documented researched data...archaix.com
There is only one way, one truth and life, Jesus. You should lay off whatever it is you are smoking shill.
All the other saviours in history say the same thing...do some research..stop being so ignorant about the history of the world
I believe in One God, and I have no others before me. Mythos does not remove that fact Many are called, few are chosen, I belong to one Body of Christ, not other son Gods and fables.. That's all that is required. Creator of all that is seen and unseen, begotten, not made, his son Jesus Christ is one with him, he came down to save his people, and with wisdom and love came to save all people who would believe in him.He lives in the Holy Spirit, and is one being with the Father and the Son..he Lives, and is real. He is real in all who believe in him, who act in his name. Within mankind there is a seed of yearning to unite with Creation, so, of course there were ancient myths. God loved us so he put that seed within us, and then, he chose to come to a people, because he found good in some of them. They did not practice cruel rituals that took life, the belief in the Supreme Being came when God knew we were ready, or at least some of us. He became flesh through a woman and took on our pain and suffering, healed us, gave us wisdom for the key to life everlasting with him. For all of us, not some elite group or leader who teaches that consciousness is only for the chosen. All that secret society bullshit. Nope, my God is here for all, open hearted , pierced at his side, All mighty and freely given. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain, there is deep thought and wisdom, intellectual stimulation, and, with practice and willingness, epiphany. In that moment you know the one true God, and he knows you, and you know that you are loved. All those words and esoteric writings will seem small, and often dangerous.
Appeal to antiquity fallacy, similarities to other figures has nothing to do with the truth or falsity of the 4 Gospel accounts of Christ.
And 99% of the claims you made are blatant falsifications, Krishna wasn't any of those things in any ancient text.
Wow, another you tube theologian who got his entire education by watching the Video Zeitgeist, and not bothering to see if any of what is said there is true.
Well it ain't. It's made up B.S.
On first viewing I detected many things that were factually untrue.
Those ^ comments made by people who's research is very near to zero always make me laugh. So thanks for that.
It's not hard to find. You are right that the only thing needed is a little time on the internet to see that it is all warmed over baloney. And you will see the proof in graphic detail.
It has been years since I ran into anyone naive enough to actually try to push those ridiculous claims, but here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64EwuOw6dyU
There are many more. But I haven't kept links to that stuff in many years.
A simple search will set you straight with all the proof in glorious detail.
I have never watched zeitgeist..no idea what you are talking about.
Too clever by far!!! Find out what evidences I have before opening your mouth
Ok everything you proposed in your post ORIGINALLY CAME FROM THE MOVIE ZEITGEIST.
I'm not surprised that you don't even know that much.
And I know what "evidences" you have. They were all there YEARS AGO.
And guess what?
They were all made up bunk! Mostly "he said she said" stuff - quoting someone who has no idea of the actual facts - well established, well known facts that NO ONE DISPUTES. In most cases you can hold the proof in your hands.
You are way out of the time loop. All of that childishness was disproved more than a decade ago - with proof you can hold in your hand and see for yourself in most cases.
No one even attempts to push that childishness anymore. Don't embarrass yourself in public.
And everything on the internet is real?
Or is it all the same God manifesting at different times to different areas? Yes you could debunk...or you could say hmm it's really weird every religion and even remote tribes have a flood story, etc...that implies theirs something supernatural there..the question then would be what or who is really in control.
Love this statement.
The flood story isn't supernatural...it's history...it really happened.. and more than once
Wow.