Yes, GGRockz had the same response to my post on this incident. She was infuriated at my post. I showed that the toxic cloud would fall into a heavy conservative section of Pennsylvania.
Blaming everything on a train wheel.
She has a picture that hasn't been produced.
Her stepson is devastated? So this means we should stop talking about it?
She talks about a coverup, handing peoples checks to shut them up. She seems to be doing her own coverup...HOW DARE YOU!!! LOL
The glowies come out when you are over the target, keep firing.
We need to keep the dialogue going. This shit was done intentionally. I read the tanks were in a burn pit. This means they dug a pit to put the tanks in, set it on fire and then covered the tanks up with soil when they were finished. Reporters getting arrested for asking the wrong questions? The communications of everyone involved needs to be pulled and find out who did this.
The official narrative is that the derailed tankers were under pressure and would have caused a massive explosion if they didn't burn off the toxic chemicals. It's a plausible-enough explanation, although I'm not really sure what to believe.
At room temperature, vinyl chloride is a gas. Its boiling point is about 8 deg F. The tanks contained liquified vinyl chloride, which works only if it is under pressure or liquified. If the tanks were going to fail, the resulting vinyl chloride death cloud would be huge and would roll over the countryside, killing everything in its wake. The only alternative was to pre-empt THAT disaster by relieving the tanks of contents and burning them immediately to LESS DANGEROUS products. Still a bad scene, but it could have been MUCH worse.
It's entirely possible that an innocent clean-up crew was forced to make the tough decision you describe. I don't dismiss the possibility, so I'll upvote you. However, we have also seen numerous corrupt local governments over the years make questionable and sometimes deadly decisions that are obviously intended to harm this country. We don't know, and we have little reason to believe the official explanation of anything anymore.
It is epistemological procedure: the presumption of innocence, until guilt (of falsity) is proven. A perfectly justifiable procedure, based on thousands of years of experience.
I am mindful of the EPA breach of the contaminated water in the Gold King mine into the Colorado River. But we had to learn the facts before we could blame anyone. Same thing here. We have to wait and see. Jumping on the "it's a lie" wagon is unwarranted and leads to an unhealthy prejudice against information.
It is irrelevant whether the cleanup crew was "innocent." The only relevant consideration is whether that decision was warranted. Nobody has identified any practical or viable alternative. Sometimes you have to shoot the rampaging elephant before he gets into the village. Tough luck for the elephant.
Ok, why use explosives and release this shit into the air we breathe? Looking at your previous comments you are glowing bright.
The only explanation I can think of (which is completely unqualified) is that seeping into the groundwater system was a worse alternative?
Yes, GGRockz had the same response to my post on this incident. She was infuriated at my post. I showed that the toxic cloud would fall into a heavy conservative section of Pennsylvania.
Blaming everything on a train wheel.
She has a picture that hasn't been produced.
Her stepson is devastated? So this means we should stop talking about it?
She talks about a coverup, handing peoples checks to shut them up. She seems to be doing her own coverup...HOW DARE YOU!!! LOL
The glowies come out when you are over the target, keep firing.
We need to keep the dialogue going. This shit was done intentionally. I read the tanks were in a burn pit. This means they dug a pit to put the tanks in, set it on fire and then covered the tanks up with soil when they were finished. Reporters getting arrested for asking the wrong questions? The communications of everyone involved needs to be pulled and find out who did this.
Yup, 37 posts on several threads, copy pasta or saying almost the exact same thing every time.
Trying waaay too hard.
The official narrative is that the derailed tankers were under pressure and would have caused a massive explosion if they didn't burn off the toxic chemicals. It's a plausible-enough explanation, although I'm not really sure what to believe.
At room temperature, vinyl chloride is a gas. Its boiling point is about 8 deg F. The tanks contained liquified vinyl chloride, which works only if it is under pressure or liquified. If the tanks were going to fail, the resulting vinyl chloride death cloud would be huge and would roll over the countryside, killing everything in its wake. The only alternative was to pre-empt THAT disaster by relieving the tanks of contents and burning them immediately to LESS DANGEROUS products. Still a bad scene, but it could have been MUCH worse.
It's entirely possible that an innocent clean-up crew was forced to make the tough decision you describe. I don't dismiss the possibility, so I'll upvote you. However, we have also seen numerous corrupt local governments over the years make questionable and sometimes deadly decisions that are obviously intended to harm this country. We don't know, and we have little reason to believe the official explanation of anything anymore.
It is epistemological procedure: the presumption of innocence, until guilt (of falsity) is proven. A perfectly justifiable procedure, based on thousands of years of experience.
I am mindful of the EPA breach of the contaminated water in the Gold King mine into the Colorado River. But we had to learn the facts before we could blame anyone. Same thing here. We have to wait and see. Jumping on the "it's a lie" wagon is unwarranted and leads to an unhealthy prejudice against information.
It is irrelevant whether the cleanup crew was "innocent." The only relevant consideration is whether that decision was warranted. Nobody has identified any practical or viable alternative. Sometimes you have to shoot the rampaging elephant before he gets into the village. Tough luck for the elephant.
see my comment above re: combustion products of vinyl chloride. Phosgene gas is NOT "less dangerous". You're just picking a different poison.
They are close at the threshold limit level. It apparently came down to whether to allow a tank explosion to occur, or burn off the vinyl chloride.
An interesting summary is already available on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Ohio_train_derailment