Yes, GGRockz had the same response to my post on this incident. She was infuriated at my post. I showed that the toxic cloud would fall into a heavy conservative section of Pennsylvania.
Blaming everything on a train wheel.
She has a picture that hasn't been produced.
Her stepson is devastated? So this means we should stop talking about it?
She talks about a coverup, handing peoples checks to shut them up. She seems to be doing her own coverup...HOW DARE YOU!!! LOL
The glowies come out when you are over the target, keep firing.
We need to keep the dialogue going. This shit was done intentionally. I read the tanks were in a burn pit. This means they dug a pit to put the tanks in, set it on fire and then covered the tanks up with soil when they were finished. Reporters getting arrested for asking the wrong questions? The communications of everyone involved needs to be pulled and find out who did this.
The official narrative is that the derailed tankers were under pressure and would have caused a massive explosion if they didn't burn off the toxic chemicals. It's a plausible-enough explanation, although I'm not really sure what to believe.
At room temperature, vinyl chloride is a gas. Its boiling point is about 8 deg F. The tanks contained liquified vinyl chloride, which works only if it is under pressure or liquified. If the tanks were going to fail, the resulting vinyl chloride death cloud would be huge and would roll over the countryside, killing everything in its wake. The only alternative was to pre-empt THAT disaster by relieving the tanks of contents and burning them immediately to LESS DANGEROUS products. Still a bad scene, but it could have been MUCH worse.
It's entirely possible that an innocent clean-up crew was forced to make the tough decision you describe. I don't dismiss the possibility, so I'll upvote you. However, we have also seen numerous corrupt local governments over the years make questionable and sometimes deadly decisions that are obviously intended to harm this country. We don't know, and we have little reason to believe the official explanation of anything anymore.
It is epistemological procedure: the presumption of innocence, until guilt (of falsity) is proven. A perfectly justifiable procedure, based on thousands of years of experience.
I am mindful of the EPA breach of the contaminated water in the Gold King mine into the Colorado River. But we had to learn the facts before we could blame anyone. Same thing here. We have to wait and see. Jumping on the "it's a lie" wagon is unwarranted and leads to an unhealthy prejudice against information.
It is irrelevant whether the cleanup crew was "innocent." The only relevant consideration is whether that decision was warranted. Nobody has identified any practical or viable alternative. Sometimes you have to shoot the rampaging elephant before he gets into the village. Tough luck for the elephant.
And even if he isn’t, the axel being in fire or whatever the heck, JUST coincidences I am sure, yeah right. This is right after the Pittsburgh crash, too,
BS. I am no freaking glowie. I resent that statement.
I know the freaking employee and I saw the picture. I would love to post it. I have first hand knowledge whether you believe me or not. I am a huge cheerleader regarding false flags. Read my threads.
They will skate like his son said. He said the meeting was a joke.
He is furious and said this is the hill he will die on.
He reads this site daily and is based. He is always talking about false flags. If he sees these comments about false flag it will infuriate him further. It wasn't. We know the employee. He will never speak out. My husband was furious his son gave the picture to the lawyer. I am glad he did.
At some point you need to believe what some people know first hand.
What do I gain if I am lying? I am on this site daily. I thought it was about RESEARCH. I am giving you what I see first hand from. A NS employee.
I get it you don't want the truth you want everyone to parrot the same thing.
Believe me or not I don't care but months down the road will be a big I told you so.
I live here. Hearing same thing about engineer called it in miles out and they said ignor it and keep going. It's bad. That said, the epa folks and national guard going around taking measurements in the streams and air are not wear hazmats or respirators. If they were, and telling us all don't worry, yeah right.
Sabotage from the DS is well planned out, and executed with precision. "The picture" you speak of could easily be a result of their operation after 10 steps once it began. Someone coming out and emphatically blaming the railroad for this raises red flags. Was it the railroad that detonated harmful chemicals too?
It is where the bearings are housed. They very often catch fire per the NS employee. Protocol is keep the trains moving. This happens almost daily he said. You can't sabotage this unless they do it daily.
The fire started 30 miles away and they were told to keep moving don't stop.
I live here. Hearing same thing about engineer called it in miles out and they said ignor it and keep going. It's bad. That said, the epa folks and national guard going around taking measurements in the streams and air are not wear hazmats or respirators. If they were, and telling us all don't worry, yeah right.
Ok, why use explosives and release this shit into the air we breathe? Looking at your previous comments you are glowing bright.
The only explanation I can think of (which is completely unqualified) is that seeping into the groundwater system was a worse alternative?
Yes, GGRockz had the same response to my post on this incident. She was infuriated at my post. I showed that the toxic cloud would fall into a heavy conservative section of Pennsylvania.
Blaming everything on a train wheel.
She has a picture that hasn't been produced.
Her stepson is devastated? So this means we should stop talking about it?
She talks about a coverup, handing peoples checks to shut them up. She seems to be doing her own coverup...HOW DARE YOU!!! LOL
The glowies come out when you are over the target, keep firing.
We need to keep the dialogue going. This shit was done intentionally. I read the tanks were in a burn pit. This means they dug a pit to put the tanks in, set it on fire and then covered the tanks up with soil when they were finished. Reporters getting arrested for asking the wrong questions? The communications of everyone involved needs to be pulled and find out who did this.
Yup, 37 posts on several threads, copy pasta or saying almost the exact same thing every time.
Trying waaay too hard.
The official narrative is that the derailed tankers were under pressure and would have caused a massive explosion if they didn't burn off the toxic chemicals. It's a plausible-enough explanation, although I'm not really sure what to believe.
At room temperature, vinyl chloride is a gas. Its boiling point is about 8 deg F. The tanks contained liquified vinyl chloride, which works only if it is under pressure or liquified. If the tanks were going to fail, the resulting vinyl chloride death cloud would be huge and would roll over the countryside, killing everything in its wake. The only alternative was to pre-empt THAT disaster by relieving the tanks of contents and burning them immediately to LESS DANGEROUS products. Still a bad scene, but it could have been MUCH worse.
It's entirely possible that an innocent clean-up crew was forced to make the tough decision you describe. I don't dismiss the possibility, so I'll upvote you. However, we have also seen numerous corrupt local governments over the years make questionable and sometimes deadly decisions that are obviously intended to harm this country. We don't know, and we have little reason to believe the official explanation of anything anymore.
It is epistemological procedure: the presumption of innocence, until guilt (of falsity) is proven. A perfectly justifiable procedure, based on thousands of years of experience.
I am mindful of the EPA breach of the contaminated water in the Gold King mine into the Colorado River. But we had to learn the facts before we could blame anyone. Same thing here. We have to wait and see. Jumping on the "it's a lie" wagon is unwarranted and leads to an unhealthy prejudice against information.
It is irrelevant whether the cleanup crew was "innocent." The only relevant consideration is whether that decision was warranted. Nobody has identified any practical or viable alternative. Sometimes you have to shoot the rampaging elephant before he gets into the village. Tough luck for the elephant.
see my comment above re: combustion products of vinyl chloride. Phosgene gas is NOT "less dangerous". You're just picking a different poison.
They are close at the threshold limit level. It apparently came down to whether to allow a tank explosion to occur, or burn off the vinyl chloride.
An interesting summary is already available on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Ohio_train_derailment
And even if he isn’t, the axel being in fire or whatever the heck, JUST coincidences I am sure, yeah right. This is right after the Pittsburgh crash, too,
Pittsburgh crash?
BS. I am no freaking glowie. I resent that statement.
I know the freaking employee and I saw the picture. I would love to post it. I have first hand knowledge whether you believe me or not. I am a huge cheerleader regarding false flags. Read my threads.
They will skate like his son said. He said the meeting was a joke.
He is furious and said this is the hill he will die on.
He reads this site daily and is based. He is always talking about false flags. If he sees these comments about false flag it will infuriate him further. It wasn't. We know the employee. He will never speak out. My husband was furious his son gave the picture to the lawyer. I am glad he did.
At some point you need to believe what some people know first hand.
What do I gain if I am lying? I am on this site daily. I thought it was about RESEARCH. I am giving you what I see first hand from. A NS employee.
I get it you don't want the truth you want everyone to parrot the same thing.
Believe me or not I don't care but months down the road will be a big I told you so.
Glowie
If posting the pic was "oh so bad" for the employee then you'd still be violating confidence by describing it and stating that they showed it to you.
Lol ok glowie. Or do you prefer shill? The fact that the MSM is all over this says all we need to know.
I'm 9 miles away and have heard exactly what you've said here. We can't overlook what the railroad has done.
I keep going back to the recent rail strikes. Profit over safety.
I live here. Hearing same thing about engineer called it in miles out and they said ignor it and keep going. It's bad. That said, the epa folks and national guard going around taking measurements in the streams and air are not wear hazmats or respirators. If they were, and telling us all don't worry, yeah right.
"If they were, and telling us all don't worry, yeah right."
Why not? You have to assume the evil runs deep in all situations.
Thank you. The NS employee said the same damn thing.
You may know my husband's son he is leading the charge on this.
Sabotage from the DS is well planned out, and executed with precision. "The picture" you speak of could easily be a result of their operation after 10 steps once it began. Someone coming out and emphatically blaming the railroad for this raises red flags. Was it the railroad that detonated harmful chemicals too?
Wrong. Do you understand what a hotbox is?
It is where the bearings are housed. They very often catch fire per the NS employee. Protocol is keep the trains moving. This happens almost daily he said. You can't sabotage this unless they do it daily.
The fire started 30 miles away and they were told to keep moving don't stop.
Why would I know this stuff? I am a damn woman.
Why were they told to keep moving?
Did you see this comment?
justin_tolerable jasqid 11 minutes ago +3 / -0
I live here. Hearing same thing about engineer called it in miles out and they said ignor it and keep going. It's bad. That said, the epa folks and national guard going around taking measurements in the streams and air are not wear hazmats or respirators. If they were, and telling us all don't worry, yeah right.
So they were told to ignore it and keep going. Hmmmm definitely not a suspicious or possible DS operations.