US citizens urged to leave Russia Monday morning...
💥Rocky IV Flag?💥
This is supposedly to avoid wrongful detention... but why now all of a sudden? The timing is... strange.
Ohhh ... would love your take on everything from what the average Russian thinks of Americans and America, what they believe about Putin, Ukraine, the war, what it's like to live there, the cost of living, the freedoms / restrictions, anything and everything you are willing to share. Thanks.
Average Russian take on America and Americans is actually remarkably similar to ours here at GAW: "land of the free, could be a really great place, what evil leaders, wow do some of those people believe their media too much."
On Putin: opinions vary, but pretty much people agree that he's more or less right on most things, and just disagree with specific decisions. I'm not as sure I've got the pulse on this, but it's definitely not widespread negative mood.
Ukraine: everybody has family or friends there, nobody wants war, many are against it, many totally support it as necessary for the survival of Russia. They know it's the deep state—they knew a lot of the stuff BioClandestine has been posting about going into this. Lots of people are shocked and relieved that I as an American am in support.
Living here is really amazing. I have a lot of children and they were so crazy cooped up in the USA. Here they have freedom. Russians look at us like we have three heads when we tell them the kinds of things that trigger CPS calls in America.
Cost of living is much less, but so is income. Lots more ownership of homes.
We are so much freer here we hardly know what to do in some ways.
Ask more questions as you like!
Love the first hand account of life there! Thanks fren!
are there any freedoms we have in america that you don't have in russia?
Guns are more restricted. But people do have them, legally and not. A lot of the differences that might make good answers here are subtle and complex since things just work differently here—we homeschool and it's a bit different, but it does work out OK.
In general there's a bit less, like, theoretical freedom? like Absolute Freedom of Speech isn't beat into everyone's head as some divine precept. But our experience is that there's way, way more actual freedom. (And health freedom made it into the constitution here, unlike in America!) Here, when the authorities are doing something to you, you tend to know it. And they do less stuff to you. Things like cops actually taking the situation into account and having human compassion when there's a violation. When there are extenuating circumstances they relax enforcement like human beings.
There's strong social pressure to do what the group does, that connects somewhat to the soviet years. That is a challenge sometimes. Handy to be the crazy Americans so we have a social excuse to question things. I know there are some people who resent us for that kind of thing, but the culture is very libertarian and people generally let us do what we need to do.
What are the schools there like (their equivalent of K-12)? I am sure that they too do have some liberals trying to indoctrinate the students as I am sure younger Russians coming out of uni to be teachers have been influenced by Western Culture (not all, but some), yes?
Ok, could you maybe start a thread in General.win to keep this discussion/ Q&A going so it wont end up derailing this thread and getting all deleted for being OT?
School is definitely a frontier where the DS types were moving in on Russia. We saw some textbooks from the west that definitely sent the message that the west was the cool place and the hideous movies are the starting point for western culture. It's nothing like American schools but the west was definitely making inroads there. It will be interesting to see what happens on that front now. We homeschooled in the US and homeschool here too—there are some good groups that help our children socialize and get Russian-language coverage of school subjects. Other expats could answer better about what the school experience is like here.
Wow thanQ for your input. My dad visited Russia back in the 70's or 80's (I don't remember when it was actually) when it was still the USSR.
He bought us all Russian stacking dolls. And told us that everyone there had to wait in long lines to buy food or supplies of anything there.
I suppose things have changed much since the USSR