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Tell me again why Women's reproductive health doesn't mean anything? (www.theguardian.com)
posted 3 years ago by Michalusmichalus 3 years ago by Michalusmichalus +9 / -0
Idaho hospital will stop delivering babies as doctors flee state due to abortion ban
Near-total ban on abortions is driving doctors away, hospital says, leading to lack of nearby labor and delivery care for thousands
www.theguardian.com
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– Qburt 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

So, what happened to the Hippocratic Oath of "First do no harm"??? Evil!!

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They are private people that can choose where they want to live and work. And, they've made the choice not to live and work where their malpractice insurance is more than they make.

This is exactly what the people screaming baby killers wanted. They wanted their way, no excuses, no exceptions. Now they have it, and they're the baby killers. Good job forced birthers.

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– Qburt 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

LMAO! Yes, they can choose where they work. I love how you turned that around!!! :-( Forcing a live birth vs killing a baby!! I'll side with life. Why do you side with death? Just a simple question!

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– Wtf_socialismreally 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I don't think you understand that they're just turning arguments around on you.

They choose to stand by the freedom to do whatever they want to do. This is fine. If it leads to a shortage of capable people to provide services, then demand will be created and people will rise to fill those roles over time, especially as wages inevitably increase to provide incentive to work for the healthcare systems.

You can shame these doctors for their decisions, sure. But I also don't think they're necessarily evil for seeking work elsewhere. Especially if there are underhanded machinations going on where money is being thrown around to deprive the places that establish law against abortion of healthcare workers.

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– Qburt 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I saw the turn around. I'm fine with doctors being free to go where ever. Insurance does what insurance does. This entire thing is to save babies and lives. If insurance and doctors cause deaths, it's not the fault of those not wanting abortions. All life is precious.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That whole saving babies backfired.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They won't work there because malpractice insurance went up. This was a known reaction. It happens all the time in different areas for different types of medical practices.

You're going to have to come up with even more than money to pay a doctor who has to pay malpractice insurance that is more than they make as a living. The reason for the mass exedus is that insurance contracts limits the amount of pay. That means doctors can't raise their prices, so they move.

You should have educated yourself. You should have listened when people tried to educate you. Now you get to be the very same baby killer.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I literally defended and agreed with you and you tried to attack me.

Maybe dude's right, maybe you're a fuckin' retard after all lol.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If that's your idea of defending, when you've regurgitated forced birth points of view...

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I literally said what you said: that they chose to leave, and that was their decision based on finances.

Also, and in case you are actually too stupid to get this key point:

There will be a lot of people hit with the crossfire of this argument, including good doctors or doctors who are just doing what they're told to by the powers that be.

What if leaving these places is just a way to avoid having to do what their bosses tell them to, and keeping their heads down and away from politicizing their job?

Everyone at any of these health care systems, whether they participated or not, will be scrutinized and/or attacked. A lot of people who don't even agree with this will be caught up in that.

It's easy to forget that not everyone wants to be political or politicized -- and they aren't evil for just removing themselves from those situations. They are exercising their rights to live where they want.

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... continue reading thread?
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– Michalusmichalus [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You clealry know nothing about pregnancies, and didn't read the article. The further a woman is from care, the more dangerous the pregnancy is for her.

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– heebiejeebie 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

really.... how did humanity survive until the last 100 years without the drug-pushing centers we now call hospitals?

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– Qburt 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

So, Idaho says babies should be born, NOT killed, and save their lives. Drs and Insurance companies respond in a way that may effect the health of mothers and babies. So, the people that what to save babies lives are at fault for what Insurance companies do that cause doctors to move away and may kill lives??? The law is to save babies like us, we were babies years ago!! Side with fixing the issues and save lives and not a reason to blame those that wish life for the babies!

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I side with female reproductive health. You ruined it, you now have to deal with the consequences. People that side with it don't have these problems. The ones that both voted against female reproductive health or happen to live where they voted against female reproductive health have to live with it.

AND there are women with autoimmune diseases that aren't getting proper care because their medication is considered an abortifact. Go explain yourselves to them while they suffer so people can pay themselves on the back that there won't even be any women Rx'd a medication that could do something as a side effect they don't agree with.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You can get so far the fuck away with that BS.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You go go have a baby there, and die from lack of treatment.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Leave Chuck Brown out of this.

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– Donutterrian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

forced birthers

Top kek!

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– Donutterrian 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

After RTFA it sounds more like an issue of low birthrate that are causing doctors to leave.

How the fuck would abortions help with that?

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Women chose to deliver at hospitals that can provide complete care. Not facilities that have been crippled with access to care laws.

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– Donutterrian 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

You sound like a man

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

A transvestite with uterine FOMO.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And? Why do you think that matters? Never mind. You don't think.

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– retardmonkey 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I dont think the doctors delivering the babies and the people killing the babies are the same people.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The people cheering for, and passing laws that have chased the doctors away can now add baby killer to their resume.

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– 5547 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I doubt this is true reason... killing babies goes against the oath to do no harm . More than likely coverup for some jab requirement

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There were dozens of articles on this topic. You can sort through them and find out of your theory is correct. But, since the one hospital lost the lawsuit, exemptions have been required by court order.

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– Slingding 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Sounds like fake news to me... especially in Idaho

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– TheyWereCones 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I was like huh?!? Bc it is Idaho! Like whaaaa. That precious angel in that pic is tugging at my heartstrings right when I thought I had none left. Haha

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– Litecola2 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

'Increased criminalization of doctors' sounds too me more like folks are fixing to go after then for some other forced medical procedure that has led to miscarriages, infertility and birth defects.

Doctors who deliver babies don't also turn around and do D&Cs and pretending otherwise is plain ignorant.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Women tried to warn you that the names of medical procedures being criminalized did not always have the traditional, " abortion" reasons. The laws have made it not possible for them to practice there, which mean pregnant women there have the danger of having to go further for treatment.

It's plain ignorant to see the consequences of abortion bans, and still be proud to argue it.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Says a mother of 4 children.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

My mother had 6, and has 15 grand kids. She's pro-choice. You're forced birth. Your choice to have 4 children had absolutely nothing to do with anyone's choice about the own pregnancy.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I wasn't talking about myself dummy, bahahaha.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Sounds like a lot of spoiled brat abortionists stomping their feet having a tantrum. "If we can't kill your baby, then you can't have them either."

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds like you're too simple to read and understand the article. You may find other articles on the exact same issue if you don't like the one provided.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Say what? Type in English please.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Haha, nice edit to correct your words. We know English is hard for you so I'll make this very simple for you to understand. Abortion is murder. Not aborting is not murder. Don't turn it around devil.

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Women will not get proper treatment, and babies will die. Face facts. More harm than good was done by the devil forced birthers.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Go away devil, this isn't Q related. DEPORT DEMON.

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– MAGAhhh_igetit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What does this have to do with Q????

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– Michalusmichalus [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

An Idaho hospital has planned to stop delivering babies, with the medical center’s managers citing increasing criminalization of physicians and the inability to retain pediatricians as major reasons.

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, announced on Friday that it would no longer provide labor, delivery and a host of other obstetrical services.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/20/idaho-bonner-hospital-baby-delivery-abortion-ban

This was a very predictable response. But, people that can't see any steps ahead, and are unwilling to have anything explained to them are the baby killers now.

Edit : Here's another article where the writer won't even a pregnant woman, a woman or a mother.

https://www.today.com/parents/pregnancy/idahos-bonner-general-hospital-closes-maternity-ward-rcna75776

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