Italy Bans Synthetic Meat, Fish, and Dairy to ‘Protect Our Culture and Our Tradition’
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I'm not sure what you're getting at for the first point. I've known people that had a pig or chickens as pets. They don't raise them to eat them, they're just part of the family.
As for the second point, honestly most of the vegan burgers taste awful. The impossible burgers, for instance, just don't do it for me. I'm not doing this for health. It's for moral reasons. We've created the technology to eat without ending another's life, why not embrace that technology? The current way animals are farmed is very inhumane. If a company 'farmed' human meat like that, no one would buy their meat, knowing just how wrong it is. They would go out of business fast, and rightfully so. But somehow it's okay to farm cows and chickens and pigs like that? I really don't understand that logic.
People consume much worse things than seed oils. I'm not worried about my health here.
Thanks for your thoughts. My initial point was there would be about 1% of the cows there are now if people didn't eat them. So most cows would never have a chance to live. I don't agree that farming of livestock is inhumane. Sure there are some instances of it with veil, and chickens mashed into small enclosures. But Cattle live 10-12 years (edit i guess the 10 years is for the mothers, other cattle live 2 years which is much shorter), they are bred in multi step operations, cow/calf to feeder to stocker. They mainly get to roam and eat. If we didn't farm cows they wouldn't even get those 10-12 years they would not exist to begin with, at least not on the scale they exist today.
It becomes a philosophical question, what is worse to never have lived or to live a shortened lifespan?
I am not trying to convert you just trying to give you my point of view. For the inhumane farming going on, I don't think they will simply ban all the practices. What I do think we can push for is labeling meat by the process it was harvested. Free range vs chickens living in coops with thousands of others for example. This won't get things to where you want them, but it would be a step in that direction.
You say there would be about 1% if the cows there are now. Do you have source for that, or are you just making that up? In either case, do you think it would be okay to farm humans the way we farm cows? More humans would get a chance to live, so by your logic, why shouldn't we? Is it really a life, if you're just bred and raised to be slaughtered?
Do we agree that farming humans for their meat is wrong and inhumane? If so, then I'm confused why you think it's okay to farm cows for their meat. It should be considered just as inhumane.
There are kids living in third world countries that have no house and no family, and are barely surviving. Would you consider it heroic then, to save that kid, fatten him up for a few years with some food, just to slaughter him and eat him? Sure you gave him a "better" life than he had before, but does that make it okay?
There is no "humane" way to farm cows for their meat, just like there is no "humane" way to farm humans for their meat. "Freerange" is just a buzzword to make you feel good about needless barbaric slaughter of a creature that didn't need to die.
the 1% is a shot in the dark, it would be massively lower is the point. I don't think this can be refuted. Humans are at a higher consciousness and created in the image of God, so I don't see farming livestock as an equivalent to farming humans.
If you put animals on equal footing as humans, we have no basis for a discussion. If you feel the death of a pet in your household is the same as the death of your mother, father or child, there is nothing more to be said.
I pray you find God before you pass.
edit: I didn't down vote you even though I disagree with your logic. Someone else did.
The downvote was inspoken, they admitted to it down below.
I can't confirm nor deny that we are a "higher consciousness" than a cow. For all we know, they're a higher consciousness than us, created the pyramids, realized they were too smart and decided to humble themselves.
I'm joking, but yes, pets that we accept into our house are treated like the rest of the family. When we go to family outings with the rest of the family, they come too. There's no need for specism here. They deserve a good life like the rest of us
"Do you have the source for that" get's the downvote. It's of course a rough number but if they are not farmed explain to me how they would no go the way of the buffalo.
You apparently just stopped reading at that point then. I'll downvote you for lack of reading skills.
You're not "saving cows" by farming and eating them. I'm not sure why you think you are. Your whole argument is flawed on that basis alone