I don't agree with DOWNLOADING FOR FREE OFF THE INTERNET as something that should be a crime. I don't care what it is. If you "participate" in illegal activities, ie: paying or distributing things that are illegal, etc then that's different of course.
These FED clowns have made simple possession of anything THEY DEEM ILLEGAL from the internet onto your computer a crime in itself. No, it's not. This is more power grab by the FEDs.
I've already stated this a while back in detail. If someone is posting illegal stuff on the internet then you go after the posters..NOT the free downloaders.
If some nutjob posts child porn on Twitter and 100,000 people download it before it's removed, are 100,000 people now pedophiles? Should the FBI bust down the doors of 100,000 homes, confiscate all their computers and throw all of them in prison? Absolutely ludicrous. This FED overreach has got to stop.
Anyone that would watch that type of thing is sick and should be removed from society let alone download it. Free or not these people are sick and they want to pass their sickness throughout our nation. No quarter!
It is a self supporting community. If you are downloading, you are sharing. Doesnt really seem like the right hill to die on for free speech, but you do you.
Why would LE not arrest people that download images of abuse of children again?
Also, why do you expect hate comments? Unless you've provocatively and on purpose have left out nuance and context necessary for an intelligent discussion. I assume it's to enjoy some combative argumentation. Opposition and defiance for the sake of feeling strength is not a winning strategy.
Your computer/phone downloads images you see online all the time without your knowledge or consent. It's called caching, and it's done so that if you refresh the page, the server doesn't have to send the image again using up extra data/bandwidth.
Now of course, you shouldn't be actively going out looking for child porn. But if you happen to be scrolling through Twitter, and someone you follow has been hacked to post that illegal content, you'll have it downloaded on your machine just for being on Twitter and having it show up on your feed.
Does that make you a pedophile now? If you happened to be raided at that moment before clearing your cache, those images will be on your machine, in your cache.
Nah i saw it, i was replying to the comment "Why would LE not arrest people that download images of abuse of children again?" It's tough to know where to draw the line exactly, and we don't want them to start arresting for that cached image or two.
I tend to stay off of Twitter but that doesn't mean it can't happen elsewhere. I wouldn't want to be trapped with a cached image i had nothing to do with.
I don't agree with DOWNLOADING FOR FREE OFF THE INTERNET as something that should be a crime. I don't care what it is. If you "participate" in illegal activities, ie: paying or distributing things that are illegal, etc then that's different of course.
These FED clowns have made simple possession of anything THEY DEEM ILLEGAL from the internet onto your computer a crime in itself. No, it's not. This is more power grab by the FEDs.
I've already stated this a while back in detail. If someone is posting illegal stuff on the internet then you go after the posters..NOT the free downloaders.
If some nutjob posts child porn on Twitter and 100,000 people download it before it's removed, are 100,000 people now pedophiles? Should the FBI bust down the doors of 100,000 homes, confiscate all their computers and throw all of them in prison? Absolutely ludicrous. This FED overreach has got to stop.
ok, bring on the hate comments.
Anyone that would watch that type of thing is sick and should be removed from society let alone download it. Free or not these people are sick and they want to pass their sickness throughout our nation. No quarter!
Yes, BUT...
How do you know they downloaded it knowingly?
If I were a Fed and wanted to get rid of someone, it would be easy to plant it on the person's computer, then turn them in for something I did.
How do you prove you didn't do it?
Especially if you aren't very tech savvy?
It is a self supporting community. If you are downloading, you are sharing. Doesnt really seem like the right hill to die on for free speech, but you do you.
I believe it’s illegal to have in your possession child porn. No matter how you got it, still illegal.
If it's "Free", someone is paying for it. In this case, it's the children being victimized to produce the content.
Then arrest whoever is "paying" for it.
Note: I'm completely against pedophilia..for the smooth brains out there that like to put words in my mouth.
Why would LE not arrest people that download images of abuse of children again?
Also, why do you expect hate comments? Unless you've provocatively and on purpose have left out nuance and context necessary for an intelligent discussion. I assume it's to enjoy some combative argumentation. Opposition and defiance for the sake of feeling strength is not a winning strategy.
Your computer/phone downloads images you see online all the time without your knowledge or consent. It's called caching, and it's done so that if you refresh the page, the server doesn't have to send the image again using up extra data/bandwidth.
Now of course, you shouldn't be actively going out looking for child porn. But if you happen to be scrolling through Twitter, and someone you follow has been hacked to post that illegal content, you'll have it downloaded on your machine just for being on Twitter and having it show up on your feed.
Does that make you a pedophile now? If you happened to be raided at that moment before clearing your cache, those images will be on your machine, in your cache.
Just saying.
Exactly. And that's one of the ways it can get on your computer.
But the FEDs are saying simply HAVING it on your computer is crime. That's where I draw the line.
You might have skipped over the words "massive amount" in the title. Not a pic here and there from the cache.
Nah i saw it, i was replying to the comment "Why would LE not arrest people that download images of abuse of children again?" It's tough to know where to draw the line exactly, and we don't want them to start arresting for that cached image or two.
I tend to stay off of Twitter but that doesn't mean it can't happen elsewhere. I wouldn't want to be trapped with a cached image i had nothing to do with.