video: https://youtu.be/dmrxD0WKn-Y
Fuck this bullshit. If it's illegal on the street, it's illegal online. Case closed end of story, no more censorship fight PERIOD.
Repeal the entire CDA. This law is basically a way of solving the problem of illegal content online, by making another problem. This law is unconstitutional at it's core. Here is how this issue should be handled:
If a user on a forum, app, or whatever posts illegal content, the webmaster must give away their IP address and any other info they have (email, username, phone number etc) to the proper cyber crimes division of law enforcement in their state. (if the user is behind a VPN etc then law enforcement must contact the VPN for the info! Yes they must! If foreign VPN wont divulge, then the issue must eventually rise to the level of compromising diplomatic relations with that country!)
If others discover the illegal content before the webmaster, they can report it to the police themselves, and the police would then have to contact the webmaster for the info. If needed, search warrants can be executed on webmasters who refuse to hand it over. If webmasters cannot be located then the web hosting provider should be contacted and asked for the webmaster's info. It just moves up the chain like anything else. Simple, constitutional, and eliminated the entire murk of bullshit caused by the CDA.
If a user on a forum, app or whatever posts content that the webmaster doesn't want on their site, it's the same as if someone in a store or bar says something the owner doesnt like. There are certain things that a store owner cannot refuse you service over, such as your political views, and other things that they can, such as you cursing out the clerk / other customers.
This whole thing has been purposefully confused and muddied by globohomo but in reality it is literally NO DIFFERENT than being on the street in public, with all the different websites being like different businesses. Other countries will have to figure out their own shit but WE have the Constitution. And if a user posts illegal content from another country, our law enforcement should contact theirs about it. And perhaps we could work something out! *edit: see WTFsocialismreally's comment below!
Oh, and if having sex in public is illegal, it's illegal on the internet. If whore houses are illegal, porn sites are illegal. If prostitution is illegal, onlyfans and cam whores are illegal. Poof, problem fucking solved LAWFULLY, clean and swift. Bye bye
With you overall except this one:
No. Other countries are bound by their laws, and we are bound by ours. This paves the way for our country to police other countries, and also for other countries to police ours.
No one should be beholden to another country's laws --- period. This is a part of being a sovereign country, and we have no right to infringe on that sovereignty, just like they have no right to infringe on ours.
We need to stop being so concerned about controlling the reins of other countries and get focused on protecting our own freedoms. Anything can become illegal, as we've witnessed. I will not be beholden to that, and I will righteously reject any ideal that leads us down that path, liberal or conservative.
Agreed. Perhaps a more creative method of handling unlawful acts committed by foreigners on US platforms could be figured out
I live in Russia. Russia has dealt with US social media that allows crimes by banning those social media. So Twitter and FB aren’t accessible from Russian IPs. That protects people. There is an understanding that many people will have a VPN. But it still draws a boundary. Just tossing that into the conversation for how this can look.
Honestly if we enforced our own laws (while also trimming down the fat) with things like evicting child trafficking from our lives as an example, other countries would probably follow suit.
I think that ultimately the law should be for the administrators of these boards/sites to make a good faith effort to report it to authorities and work with them to provide correct information.
Maybe that'd be complicated, but they bear responsibility for keeping their part of the internet clean.
But I don't believe that our government should do anything more than forward that information to the correct authorities in other countries on request from these board administrators. I don't think that they should be expending resources to police the planet otherwise.
We have so many problems at home that need to be resolved and other countries need to be held to account by their citizenry too..it can't all fall on the American people.
Good faith is exceedingly rare, and nuanced thinking is rarer still, imo. I know I have much room for improvement. But it is essential to be able to trust.
Yes. How would you like it if you posted "I drank a beer today" and the Saudi Police accused you of hate speech?