Trump left Trump Tower at 1:09, Q drop 109 asks Archangel Michael's protection in battle!
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Colossians 2:18 If you need help understanding.
https://www.bibleref.com/Colossians/2/Colossians-2-18.html
Jesus himself said to ONLY to worship God. Matthew 4-10. And if your praying to angles….words matter.
Praying to Angels is not worship, we don't pray to Angels and Saints the same way we pray to God.
Praying to and praying for is different. This whole thread is based on praying to the Archangel Michael. My post. I’m saying it is wrong to pray to angles, according to scripture I’m correct. You either agree with Paul’s words in Colossians, and Jesus himself about prayer, or you don’t.
I myself am thankful for any angle who helps me, but I know who to thank. And I know who to pray for/to. I agree angles can think for themselves, they find is extremely interesting, from information I’ve read about the. They were created to serve, and follow God’s commands, not free Will. We on the other hand, in God’s words, are His most prized possessions. Our love for each other is on another level. Much different than angles. So when we pray, it would be a insult to pray to the servant of the one true God. Understand this. It’s what Paul os referring to in the scripture I posted.
Right, but my point is we pray "to" Angels differently than how we pray to God. We speak to the Angels as if they're right infront of us, because Paul's words in Hebrews tells us they are. He says that we're surrounded by a "great cloud of witnesses", and that the Angels and Saints are part of the same Body of Christ. We ask them for their intercessions, for help through their prayers, for their protection and presence.
Can you give an example where someone in the Bible prays to an Angel?
Praying “to” is still praying for their assistance, right? I don’t want to get into the whole Catholic thing with you, as with the Virgin Mary. These things are not God. They are OF God. Therefore when you pray for help or healing or anything to do with miracles….Jesus, God the Father is who you pray to. You can pray FOR things differently, I suppose. You can pray WITH people differently. But the end is the same. When you pray “to”, there is only one. As I said I don’t want to hurt your feelings or anything but you sound Catholic. And, I hate to say it to you, but they’ve got a few things wrong with “their” teachings. They’ve literally placed a man (pope) in between the person and Jesus. I e for a few Catholic family members. After talking with me on just basics of relationships, salvation with Jesus. They start to question their whole upbringing. I’m not a smart or wise person. But I know how the order goes. It’s you, and Jesus. There is no other way. That is who you pray to. That is who you thank. That is who you owe everything to and He is the only way.
Catholics get a lot of the basics wrong. One of the easy examples is something Jesus taught about not giving people titles.
here is a quote from the catholic bible so they cant argue about bible versions.
Matthew 23 reads
8 You, however, must not allow yourselves to be called Rabbi, since you have only one Master, and you are all brothers. 9 You must call no one on earth your father, since you have only one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor must you allow yourselves to be called teachers, for you have only one Teacher, the Christ.
As far asking angles for protection i think that even Jesus said he could call down a legion of angles for protection if he wanted to.
I agree that calling on help from angles isn't worshiping them.
I think the issue is that we need to go through Jesus Christ who is the Mediator. Jesus explicitly tells us to go through him.
Its completely ok to ask Jesus to send archangel Michael to protect Trump
Catholics get basics wrong? Boy Catholics put your Bible together. You are so ignorant.
Well, I'm not a Roman Catholic, I'm Orthodox.
First off about calling no man father, Jesus isn't saying we can't call people "teacher" or "father", that's silly. If Jesus were speaking strictly literal, we couldn't call our own biological fathers, "father", or people who are teachers, "teacher."
Paul would also be guilty of this if Jesus were speaking strictly literal, as he called Timothy and others his son, and called himself a teacher. Jesus is addressing the pride and boastfulness of the Pharisees who seek to be called great titles.
Secondly, we don't deny that Jesus is the mediator. We pray to the Angels differently than we pray to God, they pray for us or offer our prayers to God. So we're not denying Christ as the one mediator by asking for the prayers and help of Angels.
Prayers are not worship. You are conflating prayers with worship and that is your mistake.
The early Church fathers disagree with you greatly and I trust them way more than I trust your judgement.
I’m going off scripture that I’ve already posted. And where is my judgement? I haven’t and it wouldn’t be right. You like to play word games. Play with scripture of you want. Your call.
You are the one pulling scripture out of context and playing with it.
You are making the wrong call, end of story. Thousands of years of history are against you on this one.
And we all know history has been handed down and taught in a totally accurate and unedited fashion. Ask no questions.
I posted the scripture link, it’s not my words. If you have a problem with it’s meaning, as I’ve said it’s your problem. Truth hurts sometimes. If the Bible rubs you the wrong way, you wouldn’t be the first. And nothing is against me, esp “thousands of years!”, lol please. This isn’t a I win you lose situation. There is what Paul wrote in the Bible, and your thoughts. Done.