I'm on mobile so I don't have access to that info atm, but with the right search engine it shouldn't be too difficult to search and find a lot of good papers online. There have been dozens of good papers published over the last year or so since all the censorship started falling apart.
You will also find a lot of earlier publications showing that HCQ and Ivermectin don't work against COVID, but those were very poorly designed studies, often intentionally, to support all the government lies. For example, since most people don't understand that HCQ has no antiviral activity, but just facilitates zinc to be much more effective, they did several studies where they treated HCQ without zinc, generally at overwhelmingly high and toxic doses that killed patients, and then they claimed that proved it was ineffective against COVID and even dangerous. They intended those studies to fail and kill a bunch of patients, often veterans in VA hospitals, so they could discredit HCQ. Over the last year that has stopped and many publications are now beginning to tell the truth.
Yes that is rather disgusting - I find this sort of testing on vets (and army personnel) to be repugnant. This also counts for old-age homes.
What do you think about the studies that claim they are isolating viruses, by adding monkey-kidney cells, human cancer cells, antibiotics and other nonsense before testing for whatever is left?
Furthermore, requests for information from governments all over the world report there is no 'isolated' sample of SARS/Cov19.
I think you are completely misunderstanding how viruses are grown and isolated in a lab. Each type of virus has one or more varieties of cells that it is best able to infect and replicate in. For example, influenza viruses do best in canine kidney cells, so researchers grow canine kidney cells in flasks and then infect those cells with influenza virus to grow large quantities of virus particles to be used in research. Many other types of viruses grow best in kidney cells isolated from the African green monkey, and some grow well in specific cancer cells. Once you have large stocks of virus grown, those can be used for many different types of research, including isolating the virus particles themselves to study their structure and life cycle. Our labs are strictly used for testing experimental drugs against many dozens of different viruses. We don't develop or create the drugs, we are just paid to test them against specific viruses. We don't manipulate the viruses, we just grow stocks of them so that we can then use those stocks to test the experimental drugs.
We have 3 entire labs dedicated strictly to SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) testing. Of course the virus has been isolated. If the virus hadn't been isolated, then no testing would be possible. Isolated samples of many different viruses are available to approved research facilities from ATCC (American Type Culture Collection) and several other sources. The more dangerous viruses require government permission to obtain and work with and labs using them are strictly regulated and frequently inspected for safety and security by the federal government.
People who claim that viruses, including COVID, have not been isolated are completely wrong, and in most cases are probably the same people who believe the earth is flat and that men can get pregnant. Individual virus particles can be viewed using electron microscopy, and the entire genome of a virus can easily be mapped and studied. It's ridiculous to claim that viruses haven't been isolated.
I found a study earlier today (while on my comp) that suggested arganine inhibits sars 2.0 (I'm on mobile and lazy, so yeah, lol).
From other info I've come across, arganine actually increases replication of herpes viruses, which are one of the possible causes of chronic fatigue/fibromyalgia. Any indication of the effect of lysine, which supposedly inhibits herpes viruses from replicating, on sars 2.0?
Seems like they would be a pretty scary thing for cfs/fibro patients if lysine makes the coof replicate faster...
Also, sorry for the off the beaten path question, lol.
Ok, so I think you misunderstand me. I am not on any particular bandwagon. And before you compare me again to a flat earther, which is just ad hominem, I asked you what do you think about mixing a sample of a person's lung lavage with animal cells or sick human cells, antibiotics etc. in order to 'isolate it'. you must admit this is counterintuitive, and there are methodologies that do not do this. Also, I have seen methodologies that add a wide mixture of these foreign cells.
You claim that in your lab, only one type of cell is grown for each specific virus (well of course the 'host cells are replicated for this purpose, this is why the human cancer cells have lasted all these years, and why that particular cancer was chosen, because it is particularly virulent and therefore replicating rapidly). So that's interesting. This is why I asked you to elaborate, because it is hard to find this type of information.
As for my request for sauce - as you admitted previously, there is a lot of information crowding into this space, and it is confusing, even for someone trained to read methodologies and critique them. So, I again re-iterate what are your sources apart from, but as well as your personal experience? So, I am hoping that you can get to a computer and reveal to us the literature you are using.
OK, so you have my interest now, tell us more, or direct us to some papers?
I'm on mobile so I don't have access to that info atm, but with the right search engine it shouldn't be too difficult to search and find a lot of good papers online. There have been dozens of good papers published over the last year or so since all the censorship started falling apart.
You will also find a lot of earlier publications showing that HCQ and Ivermectin don't work against COVID, but those were very poorly designed studies, often intentionally, to support all the government lies. For example, since most people don't understand that HCQ has no antiviral activity, but just facilitates zinc to be much more effective, they did several studies where they treated HCQ without zinc, generally at overwhelmingly high and toxic doses that killed patients, and then they claimed that proved it was ineffective against COVID and even dangerous. They intended those studies to fail and kill a bunch of patients, often veterans in VA hospitals, so they could discredit HCQ. Over the last year that has stopped and many publications are now beginning to tell the truth.
Yes that is rather disgusting - I find this sort of testing on vets (and army personnel) to be repugnant. This also counts for old-age homes.
What do you think about the studies that claim they are isolating viruses, by adding monkey-kidney cells, human cancer cells, antibiotics and other nonsense before testing for whatever is left?
Furthermore, requests for information from governments all over the world report there is no 'isolated' sample of SARS/Cov19.
I'd be interested to hear your opinion.
I think you are completely misunderstanding how viruses are grown and isolated in a lab. Each type of virus has one or more varieties of cells that it is best able to infect and replicate in. For example, influenza viruses do best in canine kidney cells, so researchers grow canine kidney cells in flasks and then infect those cells with influenza virus to grow large quantities of virus particles to be used in research. Many other types of viruses grow best in kidney cells isolated from the African green monkey, and some grow well in specific cancer cells. Once you have large stocks of virus grown, those can be used for many different types of research, including isolating the virus particles themselves to study their structure and life cycle. Our labs are strictly used for testing experimental drugs against many dozens of different viruses. We don't develop or create the drugs, we are just paid to test them against specific viruses. We don't manipulate the viruses, we just grow stocks of them so that we can then use those stocks to test the experimental drugs.
We have 3 entire labs dedicated strictly to SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) testing. Of course the virus has been isolated. If the virus hadn't been isolated, then no testing would be possible. Isolated samples of many different viruses are available to approved research facilities from ATCC (American Type Culture Collection) and several other sources. The more dangerous viruses require government permission to obtain and work with and labs using them are strictly regulated and frequently inspected for safety and security by the federal government.
People who claim that viruses, including COVID, have not been isolated are completely wrong, and in most cases are probably the same people who believe the earth is flat and that men can get pregnant. Individual virus particles can be viewed using electron microscopy, and the entire genome of a virus can easily be mapped and studied. It's ridiculous to claim that viruses haven't been isolated.
I found a study earlier today (while on my comp) that suggested arganine inhibits sars 2.0 (I'm on mobile and lazy, so yeah, lol).
From other info I've come across, arganine actually increases replication of herpes viruses, which are one of the possible causes of chronic fatigue/fibromyalgia. Any indication of the effect of lysine, which supposedly inhibits herpes viruses from replicating, on sars 2.0?
Seems like they would be a pretty scary thing for cfs/fibro patients if lysine makes the coof replicate faster...
Also, sorry for the off the beaten path question, lol.
Ok, so I think you misunderstand me. I am not on any particular bandwagon. And before you compare me again to a flat earther, which is just ad hominem, I asked you what do you think about mixing a sample of a person's lung lavage with animal cells or sick human cells, antibiotics etc. in order to 'isolate it'. you must admit this is counterintuitive, and there are methodologies that do not do this. Also, I have seen methodologies that add a wide mixture of these foreign cells.
You claim that in your lab, only one type of cell is grown for each specific virus (well of course the 'host cells are replicated for this purpose, this is why the human cancer cells have lasted all these years, and why that particular cancer was chosen, because it is particularly virulent and therefore replicating rapidly). So that's interesting. This is why I asked you to elaborate, because it is hard to find this type of information.
As for my request for sauce - as you admitted previously, there is a lot of information crowding into this space, and it is confusing, even for someone trained to read methodologies and critique them. So, I again re-iterate what are your sources apart from, but as well as your personal experience? So, I am hoping that you can get to a computer and reveal to us the literature you are using.