By now of us have figured out that narratives from either party are usually bullshit. But for some odd reason, the issue of illegal immigration is one that people still haven’t seen for what it is. I am not really sure why that is. And people generally blame the symptoms and demand fixes for the symptoms. Which predictably won’t end the way they think it will.
We have had the identical argument on illegal immigration since the 60s. Nothing changes. We have a legal system woefully inadequate to deal with the issue. For example: there are about 630 immigration judges across the country. There is a case backlog of over 2 million and climbing. That backlog is simply not possible to clear. For longer than I’ve been alive, the system has been broken.
I have my own theories, but the purpose of this post is not to persuade you to think like I do. It is to get you to think and find the flaws in your reasoning. So I will point some things out and am looking forward to what thoughts come to your minds.
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We destabilize Mexico, Central & South America with government coups and other shenanigans - 1954 Guatemala; 1961 Cuba (bay of pigs); 1964 Brazil; 1965 Dominican Republic; 1970s Argentina & Chile; 1980s Nicaragua; 1983 Grenada; 1989 Panama; 2002 Venezuela (oddly Clinton got Chavez out of jail to run for president); 2009 Honduras…I could go on
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There is a drug trafficking business with annual revenues larger than most of the world’s largest corporations.
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There are massive numbers of human trafficking into the southeastern United States.
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GW Bush installed a known narco ally as president of Colombia in 2002.
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government funded NGOs drive large numbers of people to the border and advise them on how to get in
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government incentivizes illegal entry with birth right citizenship and subsidies for food, medical, and housing.
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the only regular immigration enforcement is against US business owners for employing people that shouldn’t be here. And such laws would be unnecessary if the government did their job at the border.
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government pays Americans to not work
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we don’t teach trades/skilled labor; many schools in large cities will give you a diploma with straight F’s as long as you show up at least half the time…massive student loans for meaningless degrees
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the most exploitive immigrant labor comes from lawful seasonal worker programs; large numbers of illegals have incomes above the median.
So with these thoughts in mind:
A) how can the border ever get sealed when there is so much money involved with leaving it open?
B) how can we disincentivize illegal entry when their home country is destabilized, chaotic, violent, and economically unsound because of US government policies/actions?
C) why do we want private business, under criminal penalty, to enforce laws that Uncle Sam outright refuses to enforce?
D) why is the focus on the illegals themselves and not the reasons/ways they are here?
E) Does deporting everyone found here illegally have any meaningful impact on the drug/human trafficking problem?
F) with the exception of the border wall (where there was one), has any enforcement action made a dent in this issue?
This isn’t an exhaustive list; just food for thought. Ask yourself if your personal beliefs on this issue are focused on root cause solutions. Am curious what you think.
I think "they" have absolutely figured out illegal immigration...that is the reason nothing concrete is ever done about it...
What better way to destroy America than to allow people access to a land and a way of life that they have no vested interest in...we are inundated with armies of subversives...
I think the illegals here are merely a symptom. What is a bigger problem: illegals trying to work or drug/human trafficking? Not to say that you can bring millions upon millions of poor and uneducated people in without issues. But I don’t see how that is even close to the main problem. It is the drug and human trafficking that is the issue. Except that the focus is on dealing with the symptom and not the cause. If you treat the pain of cancer, you still have cancer. Likewise we can deport all we want, but as long as the money in the cartel business is so high, they’ll be right back here.
But you have to agree it is like it is because the people in power want it to be that way....it is a multi-faceted problem...with the drug and human trafficking being perhaps the biggest component...but I believe everywhere people are suffering because of the burden placed on our housing, schools, social services and hospitals/medical services. But I believe that is exactly what "they" want to happen.
Absolutely this is by design. They want it like this. Our focus is misplaced. It is on the people leaving the dismal conditions in their home countries. The problems they cause here pale in comparison to the drug trafficking and human trafficking. While we are all side tracked with “they took r jerbs!!” The DS is busy raking in billions from illicit businesses. We should be focused on government, politicians, and the DS. Solve that, and the rest takes care of itself.
UNTIL we kill the BANKING system,that supports the Cabal therefore bankrupting, exposing and ultimately eliminating them then all these problems will continue. This is not ideological they have just sold it that way. IT always has been about THEIR money and power.
Might be the only one in here that actually gets it. Meanwhile we keep arguing amongst each other over meaningless semantics that each side is convinced is correct. Completely missing the obvious.
I think the idea of "supporting the rights of minorities" has always been central to the Democrat party's ideology. Historically black people are supposed to have been strong Democrat supporters but from what I hear this is no longer particularly true? Don't know about people incoming from America Latina but maybe they are not so keen either.
It's essential for them to have a continuing supply of "downtrodden" "minorities" to shore up their voter base. Maybe this is why they continuously generate new minority groups trans, fluids, nonbinaries, queers, whatever all those things are.
The idea that dems support minorities is antithetical to history. The Klan was basically a dem campaign apparatus. Once Johnson passed the great society program, then he began purchasing minority support with taxpayer funds. Suddenly “rights of minorities” became increased government handouts. The gravy train is what the dems support. Because otherwise open racism was not working for them. Then the media spun it as Reps are for the rich and against minorities…amazing how that works.
One possibility you missed. Could be they are sneaking in a hidden but standing army to overwhelm our military to force a ground level takeover... if it gets to duch a point. ... a cartel army. Surely enough have arrived to do so. This would inturn sustain all these profitable dark enterprises.
Certainly a possibility. But anything like that to me is a secondary or tertiary “benefit” to the DS. Until the primary issue is dealt with - drug/human trafficking - everything else is an exercise in frivolity.
Since I didn’t offer an opinion, only observations, you failed the exercise by jumping to conclusions about me.
Man that was substantive. Riveting exchange of ideas, mate.
Sleeper cell army- look at all the sabotage so far this year. And, of course, extra voters, cheap labor, replacement for us, etc…