Well, get your check book out haha! Because the Ethiopian Bible was not subject to the Council’s of Nicaea, or the Vatican ever. Since the time the Queen of Sheba left Jerusalem, that country has had its own version of the Bible which is supposed to be more complete. The Ethiopian Bible of course still includes the Apocryphal books and again none of the “edits” western/European Bibles have had since then.
Strange that’s this is public knowledge in Africa, but not so much outside that continent due to Western Scholar’s historical superiority complexes haha.
It should be noted that, although the Ethiopian Bible does contain additional books, there are no serious doctrinal disagreements between the Ethiopian church and Orthodoxy as a whole. We all read the same core books, and reach the same basic conclusions. It's in the practical application of those conclusions that we separate. But, to my knowledge, you'd be hard-pressed to find an Ethiopian Christian willing to say that American Protestant beliefs, for instance, are a ticket to hell.
Haha no of course it’s not a ticket nor am I saying that at all. I’m just presenting the fact that the Vatican has edited and “removed” things from the original Biblical format along with the Councils of Nicaea, beyond the original scriptures, even beyond what Constantine first set out. As we’ve learned even more from the Dead Sea Scrolls, the modern version of the NIV and/or King James Bibles are not “in whole” to what was originally written.
Just to ramble for a minute if I may. It would seem to me that there are quite a few fail safes God specifically created for us to find, that shows us his word is verifiable and true to its original meaning, if your willing to seek it out.
It was not a random coincidence, in my opinion, that those scrolls were found when they were found, timing is everything with God. It is even more interesting that it ends this exact debate just like that.
A brief look into some of Gods other fail safes brings us to the original Hebrew language, it combined three layers to create a unified message of revelation. It was common meaning, pictographic and numeric. Each layer contains either confirmation of the primary or conventional meaning or in many cases it shines a light on a deeper revelation God wants repeated or magnified.
And to add another personal opinion, the Bible compiled into a common language that is able to be easily carried, transported and
disseminated, and which could also be a handheld companion and common household staple has done more to damage tyrants and systems of control than any other idea or philosophy man has created. If evil men conspired to twist the Bible into a condensed version of 66 books, and hoped it would be to their benefit, it would seem that they failed miserably, because in reality it has only brought revolt and revolution with an understanding that Gods authority is supreme and it outweighs the pompous and arrogant titles and self perceived authority of mere men.
You dont really give the full picture. The council didn't already have a complete bible and decided what needs to be removed...they were examining many letters and stories claiming to be inspired and determining their history, context, and relationship to other scripture etc. Some books were not placed in the Bible because they were known attempts to lead Christians astray (many of the so called “lost books”) and others while beneficial to read, were determined not be divinely inspired by God (apocryphal books). I think of the apocryphal books as I would a book by a very knowledgeable theologian today: able to provide insight, perspective and encouragement to your faith, but not God’s divinely inspired writings.
Ethiopian Orthodox has a different 10 commandments than Catholic / Protestant. How can this be when they all have the same Bible (Exodus)? Maybe it's not the same. I don't see chapter headings and verse numbers in the picture above. That's something that translators have added to influence readers toward their own interpretation.
If the translators' opinions were taken away, the Bible books would be very different-- they would be original text. And it would have a big impact. Readers might see "The 10 Commandments" in Exodus 34:28 written on stone tablets and think those were it, instead of Exodus 20 where we've been taught.
The Ethiopian Orthodox share the same 10 commandments the Protestants do...
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS አስርቱ ተእዛዛት
I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make any graven image.
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy.
Honor thy father and mother.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Thou shalt not covet.
ከእኔ በቀር ሌሎች አማልክት አይሁኑልህ።
በላይ በሰማይ ካለው፥ በታችም በምድር ካለው፥ ከምድርም በታች በውኃ ካለው ነገር የማናቸውንም ምሳሌ፥ የተቀረጸውንም ምስል ለአንተ አታድርግ።
የእግዚአብሔርን የአምላክህን ስም በከንቱ አትጥራ
የሰንበትን ቀን ትቀድሰው ዘንድ አስብ
አባትህንና እናትህን አክብር
አትግደል
አታመንዝር
አትስረቅ
በሐሰት አትመስክር
የባልንጀራህን ቤት አትመኝ
The Word is the same. I agree about the chapter and verse markings being biased, but you can learn to read the text without those in mind, and it's not going to change the meaning.
Well, get your check book out haha! Because the Ethiopian Bible was not subject to the Council’s of Nicaea, or the Vatican ever. Since the time the Queen of Sheba left Jerusalem, that country has had its own version of the Bible which is supposed to be more complete. The Ethiopian Bible of course still includes the Apocryphal books and again none of the “edits” western/European Bibles have had since then.
Strange that’s this is public knowledge in Africa, but not so much outside that continent due to Western Scholar’s historical superiority complexes haha.
It should be noted that, although the Ethiopian Bible does contain additional books, there are no serious doctrinal disagreements between the Ethiopian church and Orthodoxy as a whole. We all read the same core books, and reach the same basic conclusions. It's in the practical application of those conclusions that we separate. But, to my knowledge, you'd be hard-pressed to find an Ethiopian Christian willing to say that American Protestant beliefs, for instance, are a ticket to hell.
Haha no of course it’s not a ticket nor am I saying that at all. I’m just presenting the fact that the Vatican has edited and “removed” things from the original Biblical format along with the Councils of Nicaea, beyond the original scriptures, even beyond what Constantine first set out. As we’ve learned even more from the Dead Sea Scrolls, the modern version of the NIV and/or King James Bibles are not “in whole” to what was originally written.
I've read the Dead Sea Scrolls. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Just to ramble for a minute if I may. It would seem to me that there are quite a few fail safes God specifically created for us to find, that shows us his word is verifiable and true to its original meaning, if your willing to seek it out. It was not a random coincidence, in my opinion, that those scrolls were found when they were found, timing is everything with God. It is even more interesting that it ends this exact debate just like that.
A brief look into some of Gods other fail safes brings us to the original Hebrew language, it combined three layers to create a unified message of revelation. It was common meaning, pictographic and numeric. Each layer contains either confirmation of the primary or conventional meaning or in many cases it shines a light on a deeper revelation God wants repeated or magnified.
And to add another personal opinion, the Bible compiled into a common language that is able to be easily carried, transported and disseminated, and which could also be a handheld companion and common household staple has done more to damage tyrants and systems of control than any other idea or philosophy man has created. If evil men conspired to twist the Bible into a condensed version of 66 books, and hoped it would be to their benefit, it would seem that they failed miserably, because in reality it has only brought revolt and revolution with an understanding that Gods authority is supreme and it outweighs the pompous and arrogant titles and self perceived authority of mere men.
You dont really give the full picture. The council didn't already have a complete bible and decided what needs to be removed...they were examining many letters and stories claiming to be inspired and determining their history, context, and relationship to other scripture etc. Some books were not placed in the Bible because they were known attempts to lead Christians astray (many of the so called “lost books”) and others while beneficial to read, were determined not be divinely inspired by God (apocryphal books). I think of the apocryphal books as I would a book by a very knowledgeable theologian today: able to provide insight, perspective and encouragement to your faith, but not God’s divinely inspired writings.
Ethiopian Orthodox has a different 10 commandments than Catholic / Protestant. How can this be when they all have the same Bible (Exodus)? Maybe it's not the same. I don't see chapter headings and verse numbers in the picture above. That's something that translators have added to influence readers toward their own interpretation.
If the translators' opinions were taken away, the Bible books would be very different-- they would be original text. And it would have a big impact. Readers might see "The 10 Commandments" in Exodus 34:28 written on stone tablets and think those were it, instead of Exodus 20 where we've been taught.
The Ethiopian Orthodox share the same 10 commandments the Protestants do...
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS አስርቱ ተእዛዛት
(ኦሪት ዘፃአት 20:2-17)
https://nybeaataeotc.org/ten-commandments
It's the Catholics who removed the 2nd commandment against graven images and split the 10th commandment into two parts to obfuscate that fact.
The Word is the same. I agree about the chapter and verse markings being biased, but you can learn to read the text without those in mind, and it's not going to change the meaning.