What is great about this footage is the earth actually traverses the entire view, and passing left to right, curvature apparent during the entire sequence. Moreover, cloud pattern around 12:30 point can be seen with no distortion, as it passes across the first stage view.
Not even remotely CGI. The key tell to the curvature of the Earth is not even the circular horizon, but the fact that as the land masses get closer to the rim, they are clearly more angled away from the axis of view. If the Earth were flat, all the surface would be at the same apparent angle.
Who are you to say "don't trust it," when all you have to offer is ignorant prejudice?
Interesting idea. I’m eating lunch and my chin is approximately 90 degrees perpendicular to the flat level table. As I look to the far edge, the perimeter edge is clearly curved but it is at a 45 degree angle to my chin. A penny under my face looks round but the one across the table looks oval. So the assumption that all angles are same is provable and measurable false
Yes. As I walk past my kiddie pool which I know is round perimeter with a flat water surface, it looks oval from this side perspective but clearly the edges are curved against the green yard background so therefore it’s a ball of magic water that doesn’t fall out. I must verify this ball of kiddie pool because I recall they were stacked at the store in a nested column. I push my sailboat around the perimeter to circumnavigate from east to west and sure as shit I end up in the same place so it is confirmed my pool is in fact a ball. My neighbor asked if I would sail around my ball north south or from the middle to the side and bottom and back to the middle from the other side. I threw dog shit at him for being retarded and banned him from my yard. I climbed on my roof and looked straight down on my kiddie pool and that round beautiful ball hasn’t lost a drop. Now I’m going to set my pool on a merry go round and crank the speed up to 66,600 mph to prove the spin doesn’t affect the flat water surface. Everyone knows centrifuges are witchcraft left over from the dark ages.
Nope. Spherical aberration is not what you think it is. It affects the clarity of focus, not the shape of the visual field. You are confusing it with wide-angle lenses that can produce curved lines from extreme lateral perspective. But there is no perceptible "fisheye" effect going on in these images. The Earth image is mostly center field where no fisheye effect would be present.
The variations from a sphere are at the scale of a few tens of kilometers. The Earth is otherwise a sphere with a diameter over 12,000 kilometers. Scale that to a basketball and see if there is a visible difference. Before there was liquid water, there was molten rock...
Serious Question...If you pause the video at 15:23. There are two images. One appears to show the earth round. One appears to show the earth completely flat I put a ruler on it.....and ironically the flat appearance is in the higher altitude camera. ..So I don't know what the question should be.....which one is correct?
So the right side is higher in altitude, as it is the second stage. However, it has two cameras, alternating and showing two different vantage points — one shows engine in line with earth, the second shows an engine with space behind it and a much smaller section of earth in the frame. Smaller section has correspondingly less arc, so what length of arc you can see looks less curved. Over time though, earth pans across both first and second stage cameras, just at different times, and you can see the curvature in both cameras of the second stage. I agree this can be confusing.
Well, the Earth is round, so the only question is why the one image made the horizon appear straight. If I recall correctly, that was the camera on the second stage, which may have had a different field of view. As someone already suggested, if the field of view was small (but magnified), the Earth curvature could look flat. (I recall the engine assembly blocking the center of the horizon span, which may have contributed to the appearance by omitting the center bulge.) My own hunch is that the exhaust plume was refracting the image slightly
What is great about this footage is the earth actually traverses the entire view, and passing left to right, curvature apparent during the entire sequence. Moreover, cloud pattern around 12:30 point can be seen with no distortion, as it passes across the first stage view.
You can send your own camera up in a helium weather balloon to see the curvature, I wonder why FE's haven't done that yet 🤔
Done. And its not there. Actually accomplished in 1931. A man named Picard.
Not even remotely CGI. The key tell to the curvature of the Earth is not even the circular horizon, but the fact that as the land masses get closer to the rim, they are clearly more angled away from the axis of view. If the Earth were flat, all the surface would be at the same apparent angle.
Who are you to say "don't trust it," when all you have to offer is ignorant prejudice?
Interesting idea. I’m eating lunch and my chin is approximately 90 degrees perpendicular to the flat level table. As I look to the far edge, the perimeter edge is clearly curved but it is at a 45 degree angle to my chin. A penny under my face looks round but the one across the table looks oval. So the assumption that all angles are same is provable and measurable false
This, basically.
Also: horrible cgi
Yes. As I walk past my kiddie pool which I know is round perimeter with a flat water surface, it looks oval from this side perspective but clearly the edges are curved against the green yard background so therefore it’s a ball of magic water that doesn’t fall out. I must verify this ball of kiddie pool because I recall they were stacked at the store in a nested column. I push my sailboat around the perimeter to circumnavigate from east to west and sure as shit I end up in the same place so it is confirmed my pool is in fact a ball. My neighbor asked if I would sail around my ball north south or from the middle to the side and bottom and back to the middle from the other side. I threw dog shit at him for being retarded and banned him from my yard. I climbed on my roof and looked straight down on my kiddie pool and that round beautiful ball hasn’t lost a drop. Now I’m going to set my pool on a merry go round and crank the speed up to 66,600 mph to prove the spin doesn’t affect the flat water surface. Everyone knows centrifuges are witchcraft left over from the dark ages.
Lol! “I threw dog shit at him for being retarded” 😂
Nope. Spherical aberration is not what you think it is. It affects the clarity of focus, not the shape of the visual field. You are confusing it with wide-angle lenses that can produce curved lines from extreme lateral perspective. But there is no perceptible "fisheye" effect going on in these images. The Earth image is mostly center field where no fisheye effect would be present.
this is my new favourite comment on GAW. please start the potato shaped earth society.
While you guys are laughing over the potato comment
Guys like Niel Degrass are mocking us all
And ACTUALLY claiming it’s “shaped more so like a Potato”
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20335-earth-is-shaped-like-a-lumpy-potato/
After years of slamming the perfect round marble sphere into our skulls…
No seriously, look it up. That’s where we’re at now, a potatoe.
Not saying the earth is flat, but tend to believe lies as big as a flat earth do exist in terms of space, the planet, our origins etc.
Come to think of it why is it in 2023 we can
Send 4k cameras and drones to Mars
Launch random teslas into space causing more space junk, because muh science
Land on the moon w lawn chairs and tinfoils
Make FaceTimes and webcams across the globe and communicate w those in outerspace clearly and precisely…
BUT WE DON’T HAVE A SIMPLE 240 QUALITY WEBCAM AT THE VERY LEAST, POSTED ON THE MOON POINTING AT EARTH 24/7
LOL must have lost all that tech along w the ability to land on the moon in the 50s w a GameBoy equivalent computer?
The variations from a sphere are at the scale of a few tens of kilometers. The Earth is otherwise a sphere with a diameter over 12,000 kilometers. Scale that to a basketball and see if there is a visible difference. Before there was liquid water, there was molten rock...
Serious Question...If you pause the video at 15:23. There are two images. One appears to show the earth round. One appears to show the earth completely flat I put a ruler on it.....and ironically the flat appearance is in the higher altitude camera. ..So I don't know what the question should be.....which one is correct?
So the right side is higher in altitude, as it is the second stage. However, it has two cameras, alternating and showing two different vantage points — one shows engine in line with earth, the second shows an engine with space behind it and a much smaller section of earth in the frame. Smaller section has correspondingly less arc, so what length of arc you can see looks less curved. Over time though, earth pans across both first and second stage cameras, just at different times, and you can see the curvature in both cameras of the second stage. I agree this can be confusing.
Well, the Earth is round, so the only question is why the one image made the horizon appear straight. If I recall correctly, that was the camera on the second stage, which may have had a different field of view. As someone already suggested, if the field of view was small (but magnified), the Earth curvature could look flat. (I recall the engine assembly blocking the center of the horizon span, which may have contributed to the appearance by omitting the center bulge.) My own hunch is that the exhaust plume was refracting the image slightly
Watch the right side camera from 5-12 minutes. It shows straight then curved then straight. Yeah. Everyone is right.
haha I was thinking this exact same thing!
LOL nice