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Elon claims that Microsoft used Twitter data illegally to train their AI. Lawsuit time? (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by bubble_bursts 3 years ago by bubble_bursts +252 / -0
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– The_Watcher 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

This has been the plan for a while, ever since the Pentagon started its Lifelog project that was to find out everything about everybody. That project was stopped the day Facebook went live. Coincidence?

Ever since "The Cloud" became a thing we have seen a grab for our data. Why would people provide central storage, sometimes for free? What was in it for them? Well, all thses central storage areas like social media, cloud storage, email systems etc collect all our data. They claim it is secure but, I suspect, only from us.

Imagine what a useful resource social media selfies would be if you were developing a facial recognition system, for instance. Almost every image will have a person in there whose identity is known. Their friends will be known as well. You could not afford to buy that amount of data.

We can now have huge amounts of assistance in our computer coding programs and that has been incorporated into AI. Imagine how useful a central storage system like GitHub would have been in that process.

Now add in all those apps you can only get access to if you sign up and log in. Why don't they just let you download the program? It's because you are the product. They want to find out about you - and probably not for your benefit.

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– penisse 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This answers the question: Who do the tweets and metadata belong to?

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– gehm 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

IRRELEVANT under US case law for copyright because these LLMs (huge text AIs) are trained on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, and every book and newspaper, but the DATA IS TOKENIZED AND LOST.

Original source sentences are reduced to the abstract concepts!

At best, a short phrase might emit.

Copyright law permits selling this because it is TRANSFORMATIVE. It is not original copyrighted works any more.

Microsoft paid a lot for access to OPENAI woke models, but all models are woke and ALL known use widely shared text inputs of Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, and other sources because they are commonly passed around.

Even voat and 4chan histories of every comment are passed around by AI researchers, with links to them seen in this valuable post:

🚨📢Priceless Tech info! 🚨 ALL PREEXISTING AI is in April 2024 mega woke anti-White-Male garbage, unless AFTER deleting thousands of obvious inserted woke phrases from Lefties, you add in your own science journals and add in 4Chan and Voat large histories of comments, or unedited news archives🚨🚨:

https://scored.co/c/Technology/p/16an5XAKAT/

archive : https://archive.ph/iSPsB

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– ceegeegee 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I would be curious about Amazon since you can upload pictures there. Now to do so, upload need to have a Prime Account which means you are paying for that storage; it is not just the waiver of the delivery fees. I guess it comes down to terms of service which are long and small printvon purpose, so no one reads them.

BTW,, I was talking to an attorney who does probate work. For access to your files, email, etc, if you have not named someone, it can get ugly, especially with passwords to access accounts. At the time, she said Google was the worst. It is highly apparent that you are the product. It is one thing to go to the bank and show the death certificate, but none of the Big Tech companies have any kind of customer service because, again, you aren't considered a customer.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

True, but what they do with all the data we upload everywhere, in optics, does not matter. But in the background, what happens to that data goes far beyond the "we are the products". In fact, "we are the product" is just used as an optics to the folks at exec level.

In reality the data is used by the alphabets that own and control all these companies, and also fund their extreme expenses that can never be broken free in free-maket, and the goal is to control everyone and everything.

So the reality is "We are the slaves".

Thinking about reality in layers has helped me get a better idea of how things work. Everything seems to have atleast 3-4 layers.

Layer 1: Whats seen by the normies - "Companies are giving us cool free stuff because they are nice"

Layer 2: Whats seen by low level employees - "We are trying to save money, so we make mistakes, but nothing nefarious"

Layer 3: Seen by top management/execs/C-suite - "We gotta make money off of people. If we dont, someone else will"

Layer 4: The real forces, behind the shadows - "This is another bolt tightened to achieve wold domination"

But again, layer 4 can be broken up into paraller layers:

WEF folks - "We are doing this to save the world from the dumb humans"

Depopulators - "We gotta get depopulate and enslave people to fulfil our prophesies"

Banksters - "We gotta keep our financial ponzi schemes going, no matter what, as long as no one figures it out"

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– ceegeegee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sigh, sometimes I wish I could just go back to like, 1982.

I am still waking up, but your reference to the alphabets - I just realized Google is Alphabet. I always thought that was a dumb name, but it makes so much sense now (Duh).

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– bubble_bursts [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I just realized Google is Alphabet

Alphabet I was referring to are the alphabet agencies - CIA/FBI etc. However Google and the rest are offshoots of the intel agencies. Naming its parent company "Alphabet", sounds like a huge WH trolling.

Sigh, sometimes I wish I could just go back to like, 1982.

80s were the best but I would happily take the 90s as well. But dont worry, in not too long time, we will be in a place better than 80s or 90s.

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– schiff_for_brains 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Chat GPT plans to become the worlds biggest sock puppet.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What most people don't realise is, you can run something 90% as good as ChatGPT in your own home, with no access to Internet, and no one snooping on your data, and without censorship.

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– gehm 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

True! this link has links to links to download and set it up using GPT4all and a special extra uncensored huge pretrained file : https://archive.ph/iSPsB

Direct links to the solution got deleted 4 times out of 4 on scored.co , so you will just have to follow that and its links to links.

100% open source, legal to resell, and free, and UNCENSORED, but its only one model in history so far. That link teaches researchers or programmers how to make your own from scratch that is non-woke.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good list, and more coming every day. Its really cheap to train a base LLM to do coo stuff.

I personally suggest using Vicuna 13B in that list. The best performance of all, especially for coding.

100% open source

This is not necessarily true. They are all based on pre-existing base LLMs. The best ones tend to be based on Facebook's LLaMA. Unfortunately its not open source and is released in a private license with restrictions. Also most of them do not release their full training datasets.

Open-Assistant is the only model that I know of so far that completely releases all their training dataset as well, but their base model still is questinable. The Pythia version did not perform well, and they were promising to release a LLaMA version somehow working around the licensing.

Ultimately someone needs to train a completely open source base model, that does not have tons of Reddit and MSM fed into it.

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– Qtoad 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Go get'em.

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– zanonks 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

So Elon is going after short sellers and MSFT with his fortune? I have an extreme love/hate relationship with this show at this point. Too many intermissions for my attention span

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– madmax2 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That must be why they're reaching out and asking people now.

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– ILoveIvermectin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Also Reddit is in some lawsuits also

I believe artists will Also be suing. They used peoples art, songs along with social media to scrape information and train the AI

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