Well... I think the Khazarians are the Jews, as in, I think they are a group of people that migrated from Israel after the Roman Diaspora (or possibly the Babylonian Diaspora) into Scythia (later called Tartary) and set up shop there (i.e. the Khazarian Khanate was both a "Tribe of Scythia" and a "Tribe of Israel").
The original Jews (from which the Twelve Tribes of Israel were descended) were, I think, originally a Scythian outpost (or at least descended from the exact same group of people), thus moving back there makes perfect sense, since they had open border agreements.
Relatedly, The Scythians (or possibly a subgroup of Scythians) are the Magogians (the lost tribe). It may even be that the Magogians are the Khazarians (though there is conflicting info there). It is the Magogians, who will, according to prophecy, be there at Megiddo for the "Last battle of Megiddo" (which is what "Armageddon" means). Thus... "Saving Israel for last."
Why do you think "Tartaria" has been removed from history? Tartaria is, according to every historian prior to the 20th century, actually Scythia, and understanding the Empire of Scythia/Tartaria, which ruled most of Asia and Europe for millennia leads to a better understanding of everything.
The evidence suggests that all of the peoples from that entire region (all of Asia and Europe really, except maybe China and a subset of people from India) emigrated from the region that later became known as Scythia. In other words, Ur, Sumeria, Babylon, Bactria, Iran, Arabia, Israel, Gaul, Greece, Rome, Scotland, England, Ireland, Spain, blah, blah, blah, are all descended (emigrations or intentional outposts) from the same group of people that were later known as the Empire of Scythia. That is why the genetics, languages, and even the religions and cultures (even though people won't admit it) are all so similar.
Scythia had many "border expansion periods," so "what is Scythia" depends on when you are talking about. There were many times when Scythia contained almost the entirety of Asia and Europe, and even into Egypt. There were also times that, rather than expand (or maintain) their borders, they just demanded Tribute from previously dominated settlements (thus a distinction of culture, through the separation of time, but still a "tributary"). Indeed, that seems to be how their whole government worked, with all the internal tribes paying Tribute to whatever Royal Scythian (a member of the Aristocracy) had shown enough strength to demand it and get away with it.
Among those that expanded the borders were Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan, though there were quite a few other "Khan of Khans" that won that title through political maneuvering and show of strength. Those are just a couple more recent ones that most people have heard of.
What I call "Scythia proper" (areas that were pretty much always considered "internal" to Scythia) is pretty much exactly the region that was the former USSR.
That is not coincidence. The Rus Khanate (Moscovians) were a Scythian Tribe, thus the takeover of that region by the USSR was exactly the same as other Scythian takeovers (a Khan of Khans winning an "election year"). It was the USSR that wiped Tartaria (and thus Scythia) from history. See Russia and her Colonies by Walter Kolartz, 1952, pages 31-41 (though specifically page 39).
The USSR also happens to have been created by the same people that were the Khazarians.
The Magogians are the Scythians. This is a wikipedia reference, but there is a ton of supporting evidence elsewhere.
Britain (the original Celts of Scotland, Ireland and Britain), was originally a Scythian outpost, so maybe there is a connection there, but pretty much everything I could find, going back millennia, says that the group that the bible references as the Magogians are the Scythians (or a subgroup of them).
The Scythian Empire, which ruled most of Europe and Asia for between 3000 and 5000 years (or more) has been purposefully wiped out of history (see my other post in this thread). Any analysis that doesn't account for that is wrong, simply by missing that essential context.
That's the problem with standing purely on the research of others.
Now you're just being rude. I "stand" on nothing. I showed you a reference and stated that there were many more. I am happy to show you more, but only if you are willing to actually look, because it takes time to dig them out since I haven't written up that particular part of my investigation formally.
Your reference isn't in any way contradictory to mine btw. On the contrary, I stated explicilty that the Celts (of which Gogmagog is a Celtish Legend) were the Scythians. So it is entirely possible that that giant (if indeed he existed and indeed his name was "Gogmagog" and not "Cawr-Madog" as your reference states) was a Scythian, perhaps THE Scythian who founded the Scythian outpost on the Island, or otherwise subjugated the indigenous population.
Regardless of that, you have by no means shown me anything that suggests that the giant Gogmagog is in any way tied to the "Mogogians" of the Bible. The very reference you cited states explicitly that it is likely a confusion of names (not that I believe that, but you haven't shown me evidence to support your case).
Well... I think the Khazarians are the Jews, as in, I think they are a group of people that migrated from Israel after the Roman Diaspora (or possibly the Babylonian Diaspora) into Scythia (later called Tartary) and set up shop there (i.e. the Khazarian Khanate was both a "Tribe of Scythia" and a "Tribe of Israel").
The original Jews (from which the Twelve Tribes of Israel were descended) were, I think, originally a Scythian outpost (or at least descended from the exact same group of people), thus moving back there makes perfect sense, since they had open border agreements.
Relatedly, The Scythians (or possibly a subgroup of Scythians) are the Magogians (the lost tribe). It may even be that the Magogians are the Khazarians (though there is conflicting info there). It is the Magogians, who will, according to prophecy, be there at Megiddo for the "Last battle of Megiddo" (which is what "Armageddon" means). Thus... "Saving Israel for last."
Why do you think "Tartaria" has been removed from history? Tartaria is, according to every historian prior to the 20th century, actually Scythia, and understanding the Empire of Scythia/Tartaria, which ruled most of Asia and Europe for millennia leads to a better understanding of everything.
fascinating. what about the bible saying Abraham is from Ur (Iraq)??
The evidence suggests that all of the peoples from that entire region (all of Asia and Europe really, except maybe China and a subset of people from India) emigrated from the region that later became known as Scythia. In other words, Ur, Sumeria, Babylon, Bactria, Iran, Arabia, Israel, Gaul, Greece, Rome, Scotland, England, Ireland, Spain, blah, blah, blah, are all descended (emigrations or intentional outposts) from the same group of people that were later known as the Empire of Scythia. That is why the genetics, languages, and even the religions and cultures (even though people won't admit it) are all so similar.
where is Scythia? like modern day? Iran? Ukraine?
Scythia had many "border expansion periods," so "what is Scythia" depends on when you are talking about. There were many times when Scythia contained almost the entirety of Asia and Europe, and even into Egypt. There were also times that, rather than expand (or maintain) their borders, they just demanded Tribute from previously dominated settlements (thus a distinction of culture, through the separation of time, but still a "tributary"). Indeed, that seems to be how their whole government worked, with all the internal tribes paying Tribute to whatever Royal Scythian (a member of the Aristocracy) had shown enough strength to demand it and get away with it.
Among those that expanded the borders were Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan, though there were quite a few other "Khan of Khans" that won that title through political maneuvering and show of strength. Those are just a couple more recent ones that most people have heard of.
What I call "Scythia proper" (areas that were pretty much always considered "internal" to Scythia) is pretty much exactly the region that was the former USSR.
That is not coincidence. The Rus Khanate (Moscovians) were a Scythian Tribe, thus the takeover of that region by the USSR was exactly the same as other Scythian takeovers (a Khan of Khans winning an "election year"). It was the USSR that wiped Tartaria (and thus Scythia) from history. See Russia and her Colonies by Walter Kolartz, 1952, pages 31-41 (though specifically page 39).
The USSR also happens to have been created by the same people that were the Khazarians.
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The Magogians are the Scythians. This is a wikipedia reference, but there is a ton of supporting evidence elsewhere.
Britain (the original Celts of Scotland, Ireland and Britain), was originally a Scythian outpost, so maybe there is a connection there, but pretty much everything I could find, going back millennia, says that the group that the bible references as the Magogians are the Scythians (or a subgroup of them).
The Scythian Empire, which ruled most of Europe and Asia for between 3000 and 5000 years (or more) has been purposefully wiped out of history (see my other post in this thread). Any analysis that doesn't account for that is wrong, simply by missing that essential context.
Now you're just being rude. I "stand" on nothing. I showed you a reference and stated that there were many more. I am happy to show you more, but only if you are willing to actually look, because it takes time to dig them out since I haven't written up that particular part of my investigation formally.
Your reference isn't in any way contradictory to mine btw. On the contrary, I stated explicilty that the Celts (of which Gogmagog is a Celtish Legend) were the Scythians. So it is entirely possible that that giant (if indeed he existed and indeed his name was "Gogmagog" and not "Cawr-Madog" as your reference states) was a Scythian, perhaps THE Scythian who founded the Scythian outpost on the Island, or otherwise subjugated the indigenous population.
Regardless of that, you have by no means shown me anything that suggests that the giant Gogmagog is in any way tied to the "Mogogians" of the Bible. The very reference you cited states explicitly that it is likely a confusion of names (not that I believe that, but you haven't shown me evidence to support your case).