I saw the thread earlier about the two protest groups clashing, with one group de-masking the other group.
Like many here, I was in favor of the de-masking.
However ...
(1) I thought the guys with the flags were just random patriots protesting queer stuff, and
(2) I thought the masked guys were from Patriot Front (which many people suspect of being a fed group that is stirring up trouble to blame on real patriots). This is because the masked group dressed just like Patriot Front.
But I have since learned that the group was NOT Patriot Front, and the good ol' boys waving the flags were NOT a random group of patriots.
Turns out, the patriot-looking group was the Proud Boys, and the masked group was the Rose City Nationalist Club.
I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to any of these groups. They just all seem a little suspect, though maybe legit. Hard to say.
Here is what I have learned.
The Proud Boys planned a protest in Oregon City to protest a faggot pride day. So, the flag-waving group was the Proud Boys.
Do you KNOW about the Proud Boys?
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They disavow "racists" (so-called) -- same as Antifa.
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They are "socially liberal" and welcome gay people -- same as Antifa. So, why the protest against a gay pride parade? Something does not add up.
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One of the ways they plan on saving America is to ABOLISH PRISONS -- same as Antifa. Yes, abolish prisons. Why? Because "there are too many human beings in cages."
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Members are only allowed to "masterbate once per month." That's just sorta weird as a requirement, and how they would enforce it is a mystery. Regardless, it's weird.
According to their manifesto:
As part of the Proud Boys code, according to their “No Wanks” portion of the manifesto, “A Proud Boy may not ejaculate alone more often than once every thirty days.” During that time they’re also told to refrain from watching pornography. If a man “needs to ejaculate” and physical sex isn’t an option, he can masturbate “within one yard of a woman with her consent.” However, no prostitutes allowed for that purpose, according to the manifesto.
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These rules in their manifesto are determined by their "religion," as determined by their leader, who they call the "Pope." Sounds cultish to me.
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They are pro-violence -- just like Antifa.
A Proud Boy Meets the Highest Status Degree if They ‘Engage in a Major Conflict for the Cause’
- Their group's anthem is a Disney song.
https://heavy.com/news/the-proud-boys-5-fast-facts-you-need-to-know/
- They have been recorded chanting, "We are gay! We are gay!"
(Saw it in a video I can't find now.)
Most importantly, for the events that unfolded and the de-masking:
- Their two main leaders are black men, and they hate pro-White groups.
And this brings us to the masked group, which I mistakenly thought was Patriot Front.
No, it was Rose City Nationalists:
The Rose City Nationalists are "fed up with the anti-White propaganda," which would explain why the anti-White Proud Boys would want to fight them.
Their gab account includes these points:
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Gender Theory is Poison
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protest an all ages drag show
We've all heard that the National Socialists burned books, but we were never told what books they burned. They burned the same books that every conservative who gets outraged by trans kids and drag queen story time, wishes they could destroy now. They fought the same degenerates back then, that are exposing themselves to children at Wi Spa in LA now. They fought for a better place for their children to grow up.
https://gab.com/rosecitynationalists
From Twitter:
- great turnout in Florence, Oregon to protest child grooming and pedophiles in the school system yesterday.
https://twitter.com/rosecitync2
A video of the confrontation with the Proud Boys is on their Telegram channel (it is actually a strange video they posted that is from the Proud Boys):
Because these guys are NOT Patriot Front (likely feds) and because Proud Boys are NOT good guys, IMO, I change my opinion of the confrontation.
Proud Boys are not something I support.
I would support Rose City way before I would Proud Boys.
Just a different perspective that should be considered, since everyone piled onto the de-masking story earlier.
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The point has always been de-masking is a good thing for identifying who it is. It doesn't matter who does it.
Aside from the masks and de-masking, I think we should know who is on each side of a confrontation like that.
Everyone jumped to the idea that it was Patriot Front, which is one of the main reasons I think that people supported the de-masking.
Also, it appears that at least one of the people doxxed was not the actual person. Got the wrong guy.
It also matters that Proud Boys were the "patriots," and not just a random group of patriot protesters.
I agree with you, but your timing is off. Waiting a day or two would have done wonders to your posting. The central point everyone was making was the importance of de-masking and exposing these government provocateurs.
Right ... IF they are government provocateurs.
You glow brighter than the noonday sun.
And ... What about the masks?
https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c44068ca-2393-4a33-9f21-b619b062573d
I don't know why they wear them.
But 2 groups can wear similar outfits.
We should understand who is fighting who here before we draw conclusions.
Possible all these groups are feds. Or maybe not. We can only go by what they say, what they say they stand for, and what they do.
By that standard, I would rate Proud Boys at the bottom of the list -- despite them being maskless.