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Has anyone ever seen this before? Lost gospels of Q. Not trying to FUD up the joint but I have never seen this. Wanting to know if this is Legit. (www.gospels.net)
posted 2 years ago by Irishmeltdown 2 years ago by Irishmeltdown +29 / -0
Gospel of Q — Gospels.net
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– TNBanjoMan 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The so-called "Q" document is a theorized document that biblical scholars believe once existed but no longer exists. They noted several literary similarities between the four Gospels now in the New Testament, and they theorized that a source document that they called "Quelle" (source) must have existed in Biblical times.

So when you see Biblical scholars referring to Q or to a Q document, that's what they are talking about. No one has actually seen this document, it might have burned in the fire that destroyed the Alexandrian Library, but no one knows for sure.

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– S11houette 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Christ didn't write the gospel on paper but on the hearts of men.

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Neat! I asked GPT4 about it.

Background: The New Testament contains four gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The first three of these (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) are called the Synoptic Gospels because they can be "seen together" (syn-optic) due to their similar content, structure, and wording. John's gospel is distinct in style and content.

The Two-Source Hypothesis: Most biblical scholars support the "Two-Source Hypothesis." This theory proposes that both the Gospels of Matthew and Luke used two main sources: the Gospel of Mark and another hypothetical written source, Q.

Evidence for Q:

  1. Shared Content in Matthew and Luke but Absent in Mark: There are about 235 verses that Matthew and Luke share, often word for word, that are not found in Mark. This suggests they might have used a common source.
  2. Order of the Content: Not only do Matthew and Luke share content not found in Mark, but they often present this content in the same order, further implying a shared source.
  3. Literary Agreement: In the shared verses, Matthew and Luke often agree verbatim, suggesting a written, rather than oral, source.
  4. No Aramaic Traces: Unlike some parts of Mark, which seem to retain traces of an Aramaic original, the Q material in Matthew and Luke appears to have been composed in Greek.

Counterarguments and Alternatives:

  1. Oral Tradition: Some scholars argue that the similarities between Matthew and Luke could be attributed to oral traditions rather than a written Q document.
  2. Proto-Matthew: Another theory suggests that Matthew was written first, and Luke and Mark both drew from it. This would eliminate the need for a Q source.
  3. Luke's Use of Matthew: Yet another theory proposes that Luke used both Mark and Matthew as sources, which would again remove the need for Q.

Conclusion: While the existence of Q is not proven and no manuscripts of Q have been found, the hypothesis is based on careful literary and historical analysis of the texts. The idea of Q aims to explain the shared content and order found in Matthew and Luke but not in Mark. However, like many things in historical studies, especially of antiquity, the evidence is indirect and requires interpretation. The Q hypothesis remains the most widely accepted solution to the Synoptic Problem among New Testament scholars, though debate and discussion continue.

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– solarsavior 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Short and nice explanation which I agree with.

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– TNBanjoMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks, although another anon pointed out that the fire that destroyed the Alexandrian Library occurred in 46BC, much too early to have been available to the Gospel writers. It still remains, however, that any such Q document has been lost to history. Maybe one day it will turn up in some hidden scrolls from a cave or something, but for now, it remains a mystery.

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– gg102 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Good explanation. Congrats.

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– TNBanjoMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks.

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– Fatality 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

There's a few of us on here who know of them.

I don't think theres any official manuscripts of them though.

A couple of people think Q could be Christ.

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– Irishmeltdown [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That would be mind blowing 🤯 to the whole community and the world. I would have to do some serious soul searching.

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– Raritan 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Didn't Q say that we would be surprised to know who was speaking to us?

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– JohnnyMagnum357 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

One thing I know for absolute certain is that Trump is Q+.

Since Trump would probably not be allowed to be a greater head over Christ, seems like it would signify that he is head of a "team". If Q+ does indeed mean "greater" Q.........

Maybe Im wrong.

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– HowlerChimp 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That’s what i thought too that Jesus is Q! But the real Jesus not the false one.

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– Maui_Boy 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Quelle means source. And Yes this is a very very very old theory that many gospels share a common source and it could be Jesus own writings.

This gets posted here every couple years and the amount of people that never heard this before is mind blowing.

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– TNBanjoMan 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

We're all here to teach and to learn. All of us bring different skills, knowledge, and things to the table.

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– HowlerChimp 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Amen brother!

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– solarsavior 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It is legitimate.

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– Irishmeltdown [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

https://www.bitchute.com/video/955p3btZNymp/

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– Numina23 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think it is legit. I found it many years ago while I was studying to be a pastor. It doesn't say anything new, as far as I can see from this post.

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– HowlerChimp 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Awesome post! Thank you! My weekends are for learning. Thank you for sharing! Praise Jesus!

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