You know Barron and Melania Trump hold dual citizenship with the US and Slovenia.
Does that pose a problem for you, that Donald Trump's wife and youngest son are enemies of America?
Edited to add:
Look at those downvotes. Now why would people be upset at this post? I'm not the one who said people of dual citizenship were enemies of America. And I'm certainly not responsible for Barron and Melania Trump having dual citizenship in America and Slovenia.
Is it a "shooting the messenger" issue? I think that must be it.
I'm wondering how long this post will stay up before someone goes crying to the babysitters because I hurt their feelings with facts.
The attitude shown here isn't only limited to those holding office.
Do you really think that the wife and son of the President of the United States can't sway the President on public matters? That they don't hold any influence?
I would think they hold just as much influence in shaping policy as others holding public office, if not more.
If a Democrat president's wife held dual citizenship with, say, Mexico or Israel, can you honestly say you wouldn't have an issue with that?
There is a requirement to hold office. Unless barred by the constitution or laws, all other familial ties and influences should be part of public discourse and the individual voters.
We can play the "What if" game all day but our President Trump was constitutionally elected. The 80+ congressmen and women with dual citizenships are illegal.
If you want to barr people from holding office because of familial ties, submit that bill into law, and just hope that it doesn't bar good Americans from office while criminals get away like always.
I like that you are critically thinking about President Trump's possible foreign influences but I can't help but believe that you are trying to sow doubt within our community. We can judge the worth of this man by all of his good deeds and that is many.
Where do you find that it's illegal for people with dual citizenship to hold public office in the US? As in Congress, or lower offices. Not the Presidency. I fully remember the issue with Ted Cruz running for president.
I'm not trying to sow doubt. I simply want people to a) be aware of facts and b) not be hypocrites.
Not wanting people to live in a fantasy LaLa Land and not be aware of very important facts, and not want them to look like idiots to the public (and thereby make ALL of Trump/Q supporters look like idiots) isn't an attempt to sow doubt.
Edited to add:
I feel the need to clarify my position here. I understand that people get upset when someone gets close to criticizing Trump here. But I, personally, do not feel the need to approve of every thought or deed committed by Trump in order to support him. Indeed, I think it's impossible to agree 100% with what anyone else does, and I don't feel the need to pretend to do so to prove my loyalty.
I, personally, could not give less of a shit if Barron and Melania hold dual citizenship. I do, however, despise hypocrisy. So when I see someone say that people who hold dual citizenship are "enemies to America", I feel the need to point out who, exactly, is included in that.
I also hope to prevent people from walking into "gotcha" like questions on camera, making the entire community look like mouth-breathing troglodytes.
So take that as you may towards determining my intentions.
But I'm sure this will end up on the "Someone said something I don't like, so delete them!" pile of demands our babysitters have to sift through.
Slovenia has officially sided with Ukraine in this latest issue with Russia.
I, personally, don't have an issue with them having dual citizenship. I, personally, don't think that their ties with Slovenia, and thus with Ukraine, will influence anything Trump does as President.
People are misinterpreting my intentions here. I'm not trying to cast any doubt on anything Trump does.
I'm pointing out that people a) are forming very strong opinions when they are not well informed on the subject (which is a big no~no in my book, but who cares about that?) and b) are showing their hypocrisy in wanting to give Melania and Barron a free pass on the issue based on who they are.
They're saying that some people can't be loyal to the US based on being born in a foreign country or having dual citizenship, but others can (if it suits them).
If you think that the family of a President can't influence them, then I'd like to point out what's going on with POTATUS right now and what his son influenced him to do (or what he did for his son, however, you want to word it), and the consequences of it.
I'm sure if we had a Democrat president whose son and wife had dual citizenship with Mexico or Israel, the vast majority of the people here would be shitting themselves over it.
I'm saying a) know what you're talking about before calling people (including our First Lady and a damn fine young man) "enemies of America" and b) don't be a hypocrite.
You know Barron and Melania Trump hold dual citizenship with the US and Slovenia.
Does that pose a problem for you, that Donald Trump's wife and youngest son are enemies of America?
Edited to add:
Look at those downvotes. Now why would people be upset at this post? I'm not the one who said people of dual citizenship were enemies of America. And I'm certainly not responsible for Barron and Melania Trump having dual citizenship in America and Slovenia.
Is it a "shooting the messenger" issue? I think that must be it.
I'm wondering how long this post will stay up before someone goes crying to the babysitters because I hurt their feelings with facts.
Are they holding office? Hmm?
The attitude shown here isn't only limited to those holding office.
Do you really think that the wife and son of the President of the United States can't sway the President on public matters? That they don't hold any influence?
I would think they hold just as much influence in shaping policy as others holding public office, if not more.
If a Democrat president's wife held dual citizenship with, say, Mexico or Israel, can you honestly say you wouldn't have an issue with that?
There is a requirement to hold office. Unless barred by the constitution or laws, all other familial ties and influences should be part of public discourse and the individual voters. We can play the "What if" game all day but our President Trump was constitutionally elected. The 80+ congressmen and women with dual citizenships are illegal. If you want to barr people from holding office because of familial ties, submit that bill into law, and just hope that it doesn't bar good Americans from office while criminals get away like always. I like that you are critically thinking about President Trump's possible foreign influences but I can't help but believe that you are trying to sow doubt within our community. We can judge the worth of this man by all of his good deeds and that is many.
Where do you find that it's illegal for people with dual citizenship to hold public office in the US? As in Congress, or lower offices. Not the Presidency. I fully remember the issue with Ted Cruz running for president.
I'm not trying to sow doubt. I simply want people to a) be aware of facts and b) not be hypocrites.
Not wanting people to live in a fantasy LaLa Land and not be aware of very important facts, and not want them to look like idiots to the public (and thereby make ALL of Trump/Q supporters look like idiots) isn't an attempt to sow doubt.
Edited to add:
I feel the need to clarify my position here. I understand that people get upset when someone gets close to criticizing Trump here. But I, personally, do not feel the need to approve of every thought or deed committed by Trump in order to support him. Indeed, I think it's impossible to agree 100% with what anyone else does, and I don't feel the need to pretend to do so to prove my loyalty.
I, personally, could not give less of a shit if Barron and Melania hold dual citizenship. I do, however, despise hypocrisy. So when I see someone say that people who hold dual citizenship are "enemies to America", I feel the need to point out who, exactly, is included in that.
I also hope to prevent people from walking into "gotcha" like questions on camera, making the entire community look like mouth-breathing troglodytes.
So take that as you may towards determining my intentions.
But I'm sure this will end up on the "Someone said something I don't like, so delete them!" pile of demands our babysitters have to sift through.
Slovenia has officially sided with Ukraine in this latest issue with Russia.
I, personally, don't have an issue with them having dual citizenship. I, personally, don't think that their ties with Slovenia, and thus with Ukraine, will influence anything Trump does as President.
People are misinterpreting my intentions here. I'm not trying to cast any doubt on anything Trump does.
I'm pointing out that people a) are forming very strong opinions when they are not well informed on the subject (which is a big no~no in my book, but who cares about that?) and b) are showing their hypocrisy in wanting to give Melania and Barron a free pass on the issue based on who they are.
They're saying that some people can't be loyal to the US based on being born in a foreign country or having dual citizenship, but others can (if it suits them).
If you think that the family of a President can't influence them, then I'd like to point out what's going on with POTATUS right now and what his son influenced him to do (or what he did for his son, however, you want to word it), and the consequences of it.
I'm sure if we had a Democrat president whose son and wife had dual citizenship with Mexico or Israel, the vast majority of the people here would be shitting themselves over it.
I'm saying a) know what you're talking about before calling people (including our First Lady and a damn fine young man) "enemies of America" and b) don't be a hypocrite.
I hope that's cleared some things up.