Fuck Ukraine. And my family is from Odessa. It's silly to try and be kind and civil to these animals. They're evil and evil will not stop until it is stopped. End of story.
This is news to me, as for more than a year i actually believe that Ukraine actually kicks Russian ass and causing massive 60km traffic of “stuck” convoy of hapless Russian troops and their incompetent generals who never think about logistics at all…
I rechecked the timeline and it actually true, one poster in that threads also add that it was Boris Johnson who tell Zelensky to ripped that agreement and attack while Russky retreats…
Edit: I also remember how many youtuber and twitter personality claiming to the tune of “at this rate, Kiev will fall within two months” and promptly wondering why after such a rapid advance, they decided to withdrew abruptly. MSM kept reporting that Russia suffer massive losses in Kiev front and made me actually believe that’s the reason Russia withdrew…
Russia in the beginning of the war had enough fighter bomber and ballistic missile to turn Kiev into Baghdad 2003, but they don’t. They didn’t want the civillian to antagonize them, and that was backfired strategically…
Personally I don’t see Russia falling in line with any agreement with Ukraine or anyone. And why file out, in line, in a fallback tactic? Anyone knows in war or even a fight you don’t turn your back on your opponent. Which I’m this case is America. The most sucker punch, backstabbing, corrupt, vile country in the world. So you turn your backs to them and walk in single file back, not worried about anything? Sounds like BS. I don’t know what happened or is happening. But all that sounds like BS.
America is an amazing country. The demons in our government and governments around the world are the real problem. I don't lump a country in with its evil leaders.
Then technically every country is amazing. And only their governments are to blame. America, as mentioned by its founders, is an idea. An experiment. To be a shining gem of the world. We are near complete opposite of what that idea was to become. So America, the idea, may not be lost just yet. But it’s clinging to the edge. I fully expect for this country to fall. Why would a country, who has clearly abandoned God, be successful, or saved? Until our leaders, and country as a whole, bring God back to center, America is lost. And rightfully so. Hopefully things will change. But I don’t see any hint of that anywhere.
They did it to prove their goodwill, because on march 2022, the front looked like a plier with Kiev at the center. the spearhead from Hostomel and Chernihiv kept moving at rapid rate to encircle Kiev, while the center spearhead kept AFU main forces very busy at Irpin, Kiev’s northern suburb.
Youtube and Twitter armchair analysts are all thought that the encirclement is inevitable and Kiev will fall soon, even plenty of ex NATO generals think that this was a big lesson of manouver warfare that will be studied forever and that they didn’t expect that russia will be anle to encircle Kiev in less than a month… however such is the power of MSM suppression of actual news that most of them did not know that an agreement happened, and when the Russian withdrawal began they also believe it is because of bad logistics and Ukraine actually kicked their ass and farmers kept stealing their tanks…
It was understood for some time that the feint toward Kiev was intended to pin down Ukrainian forces so they couldn't be moved to the Donbass, where the real Russian operation was in play. The Russians may have underestimated the Kiev government's insane viciousness.
I also believed it, think it was to keep AFU busy juat north of Kiev and to bait AFU to relocate significant amount of their force to help defend Kiev, thinning the Ukrainian defense in the east (Donbass) in the process.
Thanks for the additional info, so it appears the traffic was there for almost a month, give me some time to recheck the timeline, but quick opinion, it may be because they expect the spearhead to progress even faster than it was.
Edit: apparently negotiations happened since february 28th first in Belarus and then Turkey, the stalled convoy appeared right after the first round of negotiation. I am pretty sure it was not a coincidence, could be Russia intentionally backing off as part of an agreement or show of goodwill, could be just a show of force.
The convoy appeared because Russia's plan was a quick decapitation and takeover. They reportedly had two assassination squads looking for Zelensky. They wanted the convoy to take Kviy. It failed
The Ukrainians attacked the convoy very strategically using javelin missile.
They used a hit and run strategy to take out the lead and end vehicles and the fuel tankers.
Fuck Ukraine. And my family is from Odessa. It's silly to try and be kind and civil to these animals. They're evil and evil will not stop until it is stopped. End of story.
This is news to me, as for more than a year i actually believe that Ukraine actually kicks Russian ass and causing massive 60km traffic of “stuck” convoy of hapless Russian troops and their incompetent generals who never think about logistics at all…
I rechecked the timeline and it actually true, one poster in that threads also add that it was Boris Johnson who tell Zelensky to ripped that agreement and attack while Russky retreats…
Heres the link in the screenshot https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/29/no-handshake-as-ukraine-russia-envoys-meet-for-peace-talks
Edit: I also remember how many youtuber and twitter personality claiming to the tune of “at this rate, Kiev will fall within two months” and promptly wondering why after such a rapid advance, they decided to withdrew abruptly. MSM kept reporting that Russia suffer massive losses in Kiev front and made me actually believe that’s the reason Russia withdrew…
For all the world to see the evil that is the Ukrainian government & Zelensky. He is a WAR CRIMINAL NOW, in my humble opinion.
If this is true, then they played their hand…. Time to level kiev, and dropped ordinance right over grifter zelinsky’s home
I don’t understand how Kiev hasn’t been wiped off the map
Russia in the beginning of the war had enough fighter bomber and ballistic missile to turn Kiev into Baghdad 2003, but they don’t. They didn’t want the civillian to antagonize them, and that was backfired strategically…
I propose they wait to do that until Sean Penn visits again
Personally I don’t see Russia falling in line with any agreement with Ukraine or anyone. And why file out, in line, in a fallback tactic? Anyone knows in war or even a fight you don’t turn your back on your opponent. Which I’m this case is America. The most sucker punch, backstabbing, corrupt, vile country in the world. So you turn your backs to them and walk in single file back, not worried about anything? Sounds like BS. I don’t know what happened or is happening. But all that sounds like BS.
America is an amazing country. The demons in our government and governments around the world are the real problem. I don't lump a country in with its evil leaders.
Then technically every country is amazing. And only their governments are to blame. America, as mentioned by its founders, is an idea. An experiment. To be a shining gem of the world. We are near complete opposite of what that idea was to become. So America, the idea, may not be lost just yet. But it’s clinging to the edge. I fully expect for this country to fall. Why would a country, who has clearly abandoned God, be successful, or saved? Until our leaders, and country as a whole, bring God back to center, America is lost. And rightfully so. Hopefully things will change. But I don’t see any hint of that anywhere.
They did it to prove their goodwill, because on march 2022, the front looked like a plier with Kiev at the center. the spearhead from Hostomel and Chernihiv kept moving at rapid rate to encircle Kiev, while the center spearhead kept AFU main forces very busy at Irpin, Kiev’s northern suburb.
Youtube and Twitter armchair analysts are all thought that the encirclement is inevitable and Kiev will fall soon, even plenty of ex NATO generals think that this was a big lesson of manouver warfare that will be studied forever and that they didn’t expect that russia will be anle to encircle Kiev in less than a month… however such is the power of MSM suppression of actual news that most of them did not know that an agreement happened, and when the Russian withdrawal began they also believe it is because of bad logistics and Ukraine actually kicked their ass and farmers kept stealing their tanks…
It was understood for some time that the feint toward Kiev was intended to pin down Ukrainian forces so they couldn't be moved to the Donbass, where the real Russian operation was in play. The Russians may have underestimated the Kiev government's insane viciousness.
I also believed it, think it was to keep AFU busy juat north of Kiev and to bait AFU to relocate significant amount of their force to help defend Kiev, thinning the Ukrainian defense in the east (Donbass) in the process.
Yes. But I recall the strategy was to keep the AFU already near Kiev from reinforcing the Donbass. Small difference.
Hi, I'm not sure where you got this from, but it doesn't accurately reflect the beginning of the war.
The 60 km convoy being stalled was not caused by Russia trying to honor an agreement from March 29th.
Because the convoy stalled out at the very beginning of March
March 1 Russia's 40-mile convoy has stalled on its way to Kyiv, a U.S. official says
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/01/1083733700/russias-40-mile-convoy-has-stalled-on-its-way-to-kyiv-a-u-s-official-said
March 2 https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/03/convoy-stalled-logistics-failures-slow-russian-advance-pentagon-says/362666/
The article referenced in the screenshot is about peace talks in Turkey that began on March 28th. Since the date in the link.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrainian-russian-negotiators-begin-peace-talks-monday-turkish-official-2022-03-28/
Thanks for the additional info, so it appears the traffic was there for almost a month, give me some time to recheck the timeline,
but quick opinion, it may be because they expect the spearhead to progress even faster than it was.Edit: apparently negotiations happened since february 28th first in Belarus and then Turkey, the stalled convoy appeared right after the first round of negotiation. I am pretty sure it was not a coincidence, could be Russia intentionally backing off as part of an agreement or show of goodwill, could be just a show of force.
There was no agreements in late Feb or March.
The convoy appeared because Russia's plan was a quick decapitation and takeover. They reportedly had two assassination squads looking for Zelensky. They wanted the convoy to take Kviy. It failed
The Ukrainians attacked the convoy very strategically using javelin missile.
They used a hit and run strategy to take out the lead and end vehicles and the fuel tankers.
Boris Johnson made a surprise visit to Ukraine about that time.
Ukraine will pay for that one.
"rain grad and smerch?" Would someone translate, please?
BM-21 Grad and BM-30, Soviet MLRS
Never trust a Ukrainian? Or a Turk for that matter.
it's ok that's how Russia fights. retreat and make the enemy hold territory. force them to defend and resupply